QUÉBEC CITY - New Quebec City Amphitheatre (18,482)

[weava]

Originally Posted by KingmanIII

So it looks as if the Glendale taxpayers are getting stuck with a vacant $183 million arena. Sad. Just sad.

and our KC has a nice vacant $276 million arena they could play in...

[JYDA]

Originally Posted by weava

and our KC has a nice vacant $276 million arena they could play in...

If a prospective owner emerges then KC may well move to the front of the line

[carnifex2005]

Originally Posted by weava

and our KC has a nice vacant $276 million arena they could play in...

Sprint Arena in KC is the 3rd busiest in the country. They don't need a team there. Basically it makes no financial sense for AEG to buy or partner with a NBA or NHL team since that arena is doing plenty of business without one.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by shadyunltd

Dallas, Carolina, Tampa Bay have won more cups than Canada as a whole in the last 20 years.

It's a bit rude to put all those teams in the same basket. Teams like Calgary, Ottawa and Vancouver don't have much of a "heritage" or history like the Oilers, Habs or Leafs. Calgary was a US team before (Atlanta, lol). The Nucks are an expansion team. And nobody cares about Ottawa.

99% of hockey exists beyond the NHL, so saying that those cities have little heritage is a huge stretch.

[KingmanIII]

Originally Posted by weava

and our KC has a nice vacant $276 million arena they could play in...

KC is a great minor-league hockey town.

We'd fare much better with NBA basketball, however.

[weava]

Originally Posted by carnifex2005

Sprint Arena in KC is the 3rd busiest in the country. They don't need a team there. Basically it makes no financial sense for AEG to buy or partner with a NBA or NHL team since that arena is doing plenty of business without one.

It's only the 3rd busiest in terms of concerts(other arenas sports attendences are not included), the district is actually financially struggling and costing taxpayers 10s of millions of $ because they aren't getting 40 crowds of 15,000 people to fill the resteraunts, parking lots, etc that was expected when the taxpayers financed the power and light district. The arena itself is turning a small profit for the city but the overall district is going to lose 100+ million subsidized by taxpayers over the life of its loans if they don't get a team.

[carnifex2005]

Originally Posted by weava

It's only the 3rd busiest in terms of concerts(other arenas sports attendences are not included), the district is actually financially struggling and costing taxpayers 10s of millions of $ because they aren't getting 40 crowds of 15,000 people to fill the resteraunts, parking lots, etc that was expected when the taxpayers financed the power and light district. The arena itself is turning a small profit for the city but the overall district is going to lose 100+ million subsidized by taxpayers over the life of its loans if they don't get a team.

Actually it is 3rd busiest in the US INCLUDING sporting events. As I said AEG has absolutely no incentive to buy or give extremely favorable lease arrangement to a pro team when the arena is already making money.

[weava]

Originally Posted by carnifex2005

Actually it is 3rd busiest in the US INCLUDING sporting events. As I said AEG has absolutely no incentive to buy or give extremely favorable lease arrangement to a pro team when the arena is already making money.

The list I've seen before didn't include sports so that is sweet. But it doesn't change the fact that the power and light district(21+) is failing(losing 10-15 million/year) due to the "disney on ice" and "circus" crowds not using the bars/resturants that were built to pull in the pro sports crowd before/after games.

[DennisRodman817]

Originally Posted by weava

and our KC has a nice vacant $276 million arena they could play in...

What annoys me the most is the maloof brothers taking the kings to anaheim cali to be renamed Anaheim Royals....instead of bringing it back to kc as the kc royals like they were b4

[koolio]

Are the kings moving to Anaheim for sure.? I feel sorry for Sacramento. Too many franchise relocations in the NBA. They should at least pretend to care for the fans.

[weava]

Originally Posted by DennisRodman817

What annoys me the most is the maloof brothers taking the kings to anaheim cali to be renamed Anaheim Royals....instead of bringing it back to kc as the kc royals like they were b4

they were the kings in KC

[flashman]

Originally Posted by KingmanIII

those that decide they're fed up with being treated like shit by ownership

HaHaHa! Bingo!


[/QUOTE]...the arena is just too small. To break even in a 15,000 seat arena ticket prices will have to be much higher than the league average. Will there be demand in Winnipeg for $100 tickets? Who knows. The city really dropped the ball when they didn't build the arena to suitable NHL capacity. [/QUOTE]

Isn't that arena expandable? Thought it could be expanded to around 17,000. Big issue, I hear, for Winnipeg would be depth of corporate support.

[Darloeye]

after watching an edmonton game on tv last night and seeing how small the stadium is. Would the team have moved long before wayne gretzkey play for them in the 80s ?
Are they only in that city still because of his legacy ?

[JYDA]

Originally Posted by Darloeye

after watching an edmonton game on tv last night and seeing how small the stadium is. Would the team have moved long before wayne gretzkey play for them in the 80s ?
Are they only in that city still because of his legacy ?

They're not in any danger of moving. They're looking to get a new arena in the near future but it wouldn't come to a head for a long time. They've got the worst team in the league and still selling out every night with tickets that aren't cheap.

[TheKorean]

Originally Posted by JYDA

If a prospective owner emerges then KC may well move to the front of the line

Houston has an arena and a somewhat willing owner in Les Alexander. He tried to bring Oilers to Houston.

[Darloeye]

Originally Posted by JYDA

They're not in any danger of moving. They're looking to get a new arena in the near future but it wouldn't come to a head for a long time. They've got the worst team in the league and still selling out every night with tickets that aren't cheap.

what I am trying to say is would the team moved years ago if wayne gretzsky never played for the team.

[htpwn]

Originally Posted by flashman

Isn't that arena expandable? Thought it could be expanded to around 17,000. Big issue, I hear, for Winnipeg would be depth of corporate support.

Some say yes, some say no. Mark Chipman, co-owner of the arena, has repeatedly said that it is not expandable and they believe a 15,000 seat arena can work for the Winnipeg market.

Corporate support would be no more of a problem in Winnipeg then it is in Edmonton and Ottawa.

Originally Posted by Darloeye

after watching an edmonton game on tv last night and seeing how small the stadium is. Would the team have moved long before wayne gretzkey play for them in the 80s ?
Are they only in that city still because of his legacy ?

Originally Posted by Darloeye

what I am trying to say is would the team moved years ago if wayne gretzsky never played for the team.

Short answer? Possibly, but it has little to do with the arena.

Some argue that the NHL owners have always had a grudge against WHA teams. That is why Winnipeg moved. That is why Quebec moved. That is why Hartford moved. The only reason Edmonton survived, some would argue, is because of the dynasty they had with Gretzky in the 1980s.

The arena itself isn't too small. It has 16,000 seats, which is bigger then Winnipeg's MTS Centre. The problem with Rexall Place is that it is very outdated. Only 1 or 2 small concourses, lack of luxury suites, the seats themselves are cramped and wooden. In short, a new arena is certainly needed. Most think it will get done though. The team is owned by billionaire Daryl Katz, who is from Edmonton, so many don't think he would allow the team to leave and is merely trying to bargain for the best deal possible.

[htpwn]

[carnifex2005]

Originally Posted by htpwn

That's awesome.

[Jim856796]

If that new arena gets built in Quebec City, the old Quebec Coliseum will have to be replaced outright, right?