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Old February 11th, 2011, 06:29 PM   #261
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The first pic is of the Fairmont Waterfront, not Fairmont Pacific Rim (which wouldn't have punched windows like this does). It was indeed built in the late 80's. Fyi, there are not two, but four Fairmont hotels in Vancouver lol.

But point taken... rooms at Fairmont Pacific Rim aren't much better
Ahh explains it LOL. I just sort of assumed the waterfront one was the same as the pacific rim one. Still, it doesn't look as nice as Ritz/Shangri-la/Four Seasons/Mandarin Oriental/Pennisula etc. That pic looks on par with the Westin Bayshore I stayed in the last time I was in Vancouver.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 02:34 PM   #262
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Skyline Investments has just sold the lot, looks like this proposal may not be built to these plans anymore. It'll be interesting to hear what is next for this site.

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Skyline Investments Inc., a Canadian real estate joint venture of Mishorim Development Ltd. (TASE:MSHR) and Israel Land Development Company (TASE: ILDC) has sold the lot in Toronto zoned for the development of the Skyline Tower office and hotel project for C$39 million (NIS 140.4 million).
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Skyline bought the 1,200-square meter lot in downtown Toronto for C$29.1 million (NIS 86.8 million) in January 2008. The lot was originally zoned for a 42,000-square meter building, which was later increased to 59,000 square meters.
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Skyline, however, will report a surplus cash of C$26 million (NIS 93.6 million) on the sale, half of which will be used to repay the mortgage on the land.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 11:25 PM   #263
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Good, it was to short for that roofline. That site needs something tall a modern.

The only way a developer can make money with that site is by building tall. Most units below 300 ft would have zero view. Harry had the scale right with the original Sapphire, just not the design. Ideally this should be office/residential or office/hotel. The city has already shown it doesn't mind the height if the design is good. The whole save NPS from a shadow in the middle of the winter for 2hrs a day nonsense I think was more of a roadblock for Harry's Dubai-esque designs.
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Old May 3rd, 2011, 03:38 AM   #264
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I wasn't crazy about the design. Something like Absolute would do wonders in this spot, without the crappy podium of course.
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Old May 5th, 2011, 01:47 AM   #265
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I'd like to see a design that played off the beaux art building next door. Somthing thats not glass if thats too much to ask.
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That could work too. A more ornate version of Uptown in the core would look great.
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Old May 5th, 2011, 02:09 AM   #267
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Skyline Investments has just sold the lot, looks like this proposal may not be built to these plans anymore.

This can only be a good thing.
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Old May 5th, 2011, 02:23 AM   #268
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That could work too. A more ornate version of Uptown in the core would look great.
I generally dislike faux-deco/historic buildings because they usually end up poorly executed, but a quality building like the Elysian (Chicago) would work well.


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Old May 5th, 2011, 02:50 AM   #269
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I usually dislike them too, but I adore One Saint Thomas. I had higher expectations for Uptown, that one didn't turn out too well. OST proves that it can be done right, with enough money.
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That could work too. A more ornate version of Uptown in the core would look great.
Something like this would fit in well.

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Old May 5th, 2011, 03:29 PM   #271
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I find the Elysian to be one of the worst attempts at historical recreation. The one above isn't much better. The core has a number of great old buildings. If we are to have more, I'd rather they be spread around to other parts of downtown.

I know it's just a pipe dream, but if they'd complete College Park that would do wonders for bringing some grandeur and elegance to that part of town. College Park I & II have made building one corner of the old College Park impossible, but the other 3 corners are still doable as is the main tower that was to rise from the centre of the complex.

Maybe they could resurrect the old 'Toronto Tower' building for the Canada Tower spot?

The cancelled 'Toronto Tower' with the pyramid roof:
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That would be awesome.
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With this certain location the height should have allowed for much higher increase as high as 80 story.
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