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Old May 7th, 2011, 03:49 PM   #1
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85 Harbour Street (WaterPark Place III) | U/C | 30 st | 129 m | South Core






Developer: Oxford Properties
30 storeys


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85 Harbour Street is opposite 90 Harbour...

Application: Zoning Review Status: Not Started

Location: 85 HARBOUR ST
TORONTO ON

Ward 28: Toronto Centre-Rosedale

Application#: 11 188520 ZPR 00 ZR Accepted Date: May 5, 2011

Project: Non-Residential Building New Building

Description: Zoning review for new 30 storey mixed use building with retail at ground floor and office above.
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Old May 7th, 2011, 07:21 PM   #2
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More retail along the waterfront makes me happy. (and another parking lot bites the dust )
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Old May 14th, 2011, 06:26 AM   #3
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Site Plan Approval 11 194925 STE 28 SA Ward 28
- Tor & E.York May 13, 2011 --- --- --- ---

Site Plan Approval for Waterpark Phase III site - linked to previous approvals and existing development at 10-20 Bay St. - proposing office tower, 30 storeys, 128.55m at highest point - approximately 83,515 sq.m- would join into the Phase I and II buildings to the east
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Old May 14th, 2011, 09:01 AM   #4
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Well, if it is like the other Waterpark Places, I'm guessing this may be another dull looking glass tower.
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Old May 14th, 2011, 06:59 PM   #5
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They remind me of the World Financial Center buildings in NYC. That being said, I think that design trend has come and gone, so I don't expect it to look the same.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 10:30 PM   #6
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My sources tell me that Oxford is imminently about to sign most of the space in this tower to a major financial tenant.

I did some digging earlier, found a marketing video and took a few screenshots of the tower for your viewing pleasure. This complex, no matter how ordinary, will do wonders at patching up a colossal eyesore of a parking lot and the more jobs brought to the waterfront the better for Toronto.


http://www.arcestra.com/fileDl/fetch...20258974536474









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Old June 16th, 2011, 10:54 PM   #7
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Thanks for the find. That is the most boring design to hit the office market yet.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 11:00 PM   #8
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Between this and 501 Yonge, I'm losing faith in developers who build here.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 11:06 PM   #9
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I quite like the tower actually... Unobtrusive, inoffensive and provides the space for loads of high paying jobs in downtown Toronto. The waterfront location is also great, given how desolate that stretch of Queen's Quay is. It is also the ugliest parking lot we have in the city imo.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 11:22 PM   #10
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Second ugliest to me, behind the one at Queen and Shuter. That one is ripe for a massive development.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 11:28 PM   #11
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My problem with the Queen's Quay parking lot and what's directly behind it. You stand on QQ looking north and what do you see? A sea of parking, a highway, some sad, dying trees poking about, a decrepit building and then suddenly the skyline. It's underwhelming.
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Old June 17th, 2011, 02:47 AM   #12
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Man, why only 30 stories?

That is prime real-estate, atleast make it an icon. I say 60 stories. That would be a great addition to the skyline.
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Old June 17th, 2011, 05:01 AM   #13
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Green roof is a nice touch. I agree with Filip. Nothing too crazy but fills in a disastrous parking lot.
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Old June 17th, 2011, 05:52 AM   #14
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As mentioned earlier on UT; Oxford has been in advanced negotiation with a 'major financial institution' who is seeking to move back office operations from the burbs back into the downtown core. The reason why this office tower is so short and unimpressive is because they asked for a budget building with no frills.

Hey, it might not be 45 Bay, it might not be Scotia Plaza but this still unnamed financial institution will be repatriating jobs back into the downtown core that could have stayed in the 905.

There is a growing trend in Toronto where notable companies established in the 905 want to go downtown. Their workforce pretty much demands it. It's a great movement that could see a reverse of the 90s trend of suburban flight. What we might see is a booming downtown office market with a dying suburban one. I for one won't cry for their loss.
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At least it's office.
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Old June 18th, 2011, 10:01 AM   #16
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At least it's office.
That's the key, this isn't Miami, people need a reason other than the weather to be in downtown Toronto, so jobs is good.
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Old June 19th, 2011, 06:23 AM   #17
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That's the key, this isn't Miami, people need a reason other than the weather to be in downtown Toronto, so jobs is good.
Theatre district, shopping, nightlife, restaurants, sports, education. Is that not enough?
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Old June 19th, 2011, 10:14 PM   #18
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Not if you have to drive in. Offices give an excuse to stay and go out. Just look at all the road closures today...
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Not if you have to drive in. Offices give an excuse to stay and go out. Just look at all the road closures today...
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Old June 21st, 2011, 07:07 PM   #20
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You could fit about ten Matts into the body of one Rub!

Plus, he'd have to have a full frontal lobotomy, so it is just not worth it!
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