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Old January 4th, 2012, 06:49 PM   #1
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MediaCityUK / Phases 4-7 | Salford Quays | 2.7 million sqft / Mixed Use | Pro

Huge outline app for the new year from Peel, site area looks massive, is this just the Manyoo site, or does it cover more than that??? No docs up yet.

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Outline application with all matters reserved for the erection of a mixed use development comprising of offices (211,900 sq m), residential (1036 units), Hotel (25,900 sqm), local retail (8,100 sqm), and leisure (2,500 sqm), supported by multi-storey parking (116,000sqm), totalling some 459,200sqm.

Land Bounded By Broadway/The Quays/South Langworthy Road Salford

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Marker #1 the Batleys site, #2 Manyoo scheme site that Peel purchased last year.

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Old January 4th, 2012, 06:57 PM   #2
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Hope these plans have some substance to them!
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Old January 4th, 2012, 07:09 PM   #3
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- Peel will announce plans for the expansion of media city.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...0&postcount=32
Thank you very much, one prediction sort of proven. I thought it would have been the plots behind media city not to one side, still a possibility that could happen.
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Old January 4th, 2012, 07:52 PM   #4
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This plot has been revealed before somewhere on this forum...but where?!

Edit, here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...261595&page=49

Posts 962 & 969 (looks like nq had some memory loss! )


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Docs are up. And the good news is that it looks pretty decent from the available renders. (some may disagree) Not been through every report, so there could be some more interesting stuff hidden away?

Renders, etc














Renders, more info.

http://iclipseweb.salford.gov.uk/Ani...s/08085053.pdf

Docs.

http://iclipseweb.salford.gov.uk/Ani...h/Results.aspx
But yes, looks like the site is bigger taking in the Manyoo plot I guess! :0)
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Old January 4th, 2012, 08:38 PM   #5
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Peel submits Media City phase two plans

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4 Jan 2012, 17:34

Peel Media has submitted the planning application for the second phase of Media City UK, a mixed-use development of hotel, offices, retail, leisure, residential and parking.

The site is bounded by Broadway, South Langworthy Road and The Quays. Salford City Council has started the statutory consultation period into the application and will consult until 25 January. The planning committee decision is scheduled for 22 March.

The breakdown of uses on the application is as follows:
■2.3m sq ft offices
■1,036 residential units
■278,000 sq ft hotel
■87,000 sq ft local retail
■27,000 sq ft leisure
■1.2m sq ft parking

■Total: 4.9m sq ft

If fully built out, the second phase would eclipse the first, completed in 2011. Phase one contains 770,000 sq ft of offices including BBC North in 330,000 sq ft in three buildings and ITV in 46,500 sq ft; 378 apartments, a 218-bed Holiday Inn hotel, 80,000 sq ft of retail anchored by Booths, and a 2,300-space car park.

No one from Peel Media was immediately available for comment.

Liverpool-based Bain Wright Partnership is planning consultant to Peel Media


http://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news...two-plans.html
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Old January 4th, 2012, 08:54 PM   #6
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Well Ive been saying phase two was coming, still that office space looks ambitious, something like 3x the total amount let last year isnt it? Obviously theyve decided to base it around the neighbouring Metrolink stop.
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Old January 4th, 2012, 09:46 PM   #7
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Well Ive been saying phase two was coming, still that office space looks ambitious, something like 3x the total amount let last year isnt it? Obviously theyve decided to base it around the neighbouring Metrolink stop.
They're already in talks with Bupa, Google and Channel 4 over pre-lets for some of the office space
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Old January 4th, 2012, 10:22 PM   #8
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Old January 5th, 2012, 01:33 AM   #9
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Looking back at the original outline app for MediaCity, for comparison, these were the agreed figures for the initial phases of the development, on the current site,
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Unless otherwise agreed in writing by the Local Planning Authority, the maximum gross floor areas/unit numbers within the development including any internal alterations shall not exceed:

B1 Business: 119,120 sqm
Studios/Production Space: 23,225sqm
Live/work units: 4,280 sqm
Residential: 2,249 units
Retail: 2,415 sqm
Leisure: 3,176 sqm
Hotel: 300 bedrooms

http://services.salford.gov.uk/solar...TRR261006A.DOC
06/53168/OUT
That was supposedly to cover a period up to 2023, in 3 phases. The residential amount is what stands out most, will be interesting to see how remaining permitted development on 'Phase 1' is referred to in the proposal.

A reminder of what's just gone in,
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Offices: 211,900 sqm
Residential: 1036 units
Hotel: 25,900 sqm
Retail: 8,100 sqm
Leisure: 2,500 sqm
Multi-storey parking: 116,000 sqm
And the size of that Batleys app,
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Office: 70,216 sqm
Residential: 75 units
Hotel: 16,942 sqm / 300 bed
Retail: 4,087 sqm
Leisure: 1,148 sqm
Multi-storey car park: 40,701 sqm / 1,331 spaces
Medical centre: 771 sqm
They've also still to decide these two Erie Basin/Dock 9 app extensions, which could provide further office/residential supply,
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10/59717/FUL 12,582 sqm B1 office accommodation
10/59701/FUL 300 apartments
Looking at the projected development figures for Salford Quays on the current version (maybe) of the core strategy, i'm thinking Peel will be pushing SCC for increased retail & office space provision in the final version,
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Net dwelling provision: 4100
Net additional office floorspace: 130,000 sqm
Net floorspace increase [Retail]: Convenience 2,500 sqm / Comparison 11,000 sqm

http://www.salford.gov.uk/d/core-str...2011-final.pdf
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Old January 5th, 2012, 02:08 AM   #10
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Ah, they have objected to the core strategy figures. Interesting number, Peel's calculated a remainder of 60,000 sqm of consented office space under the existing permission.
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Proposal G: Office development

It is recognised that the figures for Proposal G are guideline figures which could be exceeded as per paragraph 9.4 of the CSPPC.

Peel’s own assessment of floorspace for the various MediaCityUK planning permissions shows a total of 119,120 sq m permitted. Subtracting the figure of 57,095 sq m which the Council has identified as having been completed during 2007-10 would leave a consented figure that can be rounded to 60,000 sq m.

The investment to date in Salford Quays, and more latterly the completion of MediaCityUK phase 1, creates a critical mass of infrastructure, business space, new community and visitor attractions that provides the platform for significant continued investment over the lifetime of the Core Strategy. Over 225,000 sq m of office space has already been completed at Salford Quays, from a standing start in the 1980’s as an office market (source: CBRE Office Market Report for Wirral Waters, 2010). Given that the business location is now well established, with an international profile, and benefits from all the associated infrastructure, Peel considers that at least a similar amount to that which has already been completed could be added over the next 20 years.

The proposed figure of 130,000 sq m for Salford Quays therefore appears light. It leaves little scope for future development beyond that which is already consented. It is important that the actual potential of Salford Quays is reflected in the CSPPC as it provides certainty to investors and major occupiers that the Quays will continue to grow as a business location. Peel therefore objects to the 130,000 sq m figure for Salford Quays.

To accommodate the likely demand at Salford Quays, including Peel’s ambitions for future phases of MediaCityUK, the total figure for Salford Quays should be increased quite significantly. It is considered that an alternative figure of 230,000 sq m would more adequately reflect likely demand. This would mean that the total city-wide office figure would need to increase to 600,000 sq m.

p.111/2, http://www.salford.gov.uk/d/core-str...ltee-order.pdf
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Old January 5th, 2012, 04:34 AM   #11
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Fantastic news.
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Old January 5th, 2012, 09:28 AM   #12
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The investment to date in Salford Quays, and more latterly the completion of MediaCityUK phase 1, creates a critical mass of infrastructure, business space, new community and visitor attractions that provides the platform for significant continued investment over the lifetime of the Core Strategy. Over 225,000 sq m of office space has already been completed at Salford Quays, from a standing start in the 1980’s as an office market (source: CBRE Office Market Report for Wirral Waters, 2010). Given that the business location is now well established, with an international profile, and benefits from all the associated infrastructure, Peel considers that at least a similar amount to that which has already been completed could be added over the next 20 years.
Which is why Wirral waters is a dead duck. It is the wrong side of the river in a conurbation with a tiny office market and no potential anchor tenant anywhere in sight.

It's taken the Quays, in booming Manchester, 25 years to reach this point.
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Old January 5th, 2012, 01:23 PM   #13
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PEEL has submitted an outline planning application for the remaining four phases of its MediaCityUK development at Salford Quays.The developer's application covers a 25-acre site bounded by Broadway, The Quays and South Langworthy Road, where it plans to develop 5m sq ft over four separate phases to be delivered over the next 20 years.

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Old January 5th, 2012, 04:50 PM   #14
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Docs are on for this now.

http://iclipseweb.salford.gov.uk/Ani...r=11/61096/OUT

And it seems to be phases 4-7, so still phase 2 & 3 to go on the existing plot.

And the press release from MCUK,
http://www.mediacityuk.co.uk/press-r...or-MediaCityUK
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Old January 5th, 2012, 05:37 PM   #15
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Docs are on for this now.

http://iclipseweb.salford.gov.uk/Ani...r=11/61096/OUT

And it seems to be phases 4-7, so still phase 2 & 3 to go on the existing plot.

And the press release from MCUK,
http://www.mediacityuk.co.uk/press-r...or-MediaCityUK
102 metre round residential tower to SW corner!
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Old January 5th, 2012, 06:13 PM   #16
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102 metre round residential tower to SW corner!
Blimey, so phases 2-3 still to come then this?!?! Immense.

Glad to see the Harbour City Car park will disappear eventually!
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Old January 5th, 2012, 06:27 PM   #17
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And the existing 80's MCP is going too, Yay!
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Old January 5th, 2012, 06:39 PM   #18
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Blimey, so phases 2-3 still to come then this?!?! Immense.

Glad to see the Harbour City Car park will disappear eventually!
Are there any planning docs for the phases 2 or 3?
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Are there any planning docs for the phases 2 or 3?
There must be from the original apps you would have thought?! (All those skyscrapers and massing pics we've seen in the past?)

Who fancies doing some digging?
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Old January 5th, 2012, 07:09 PM   #20
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Posted what was outline approved in 2006 a few posts back, so it's what remains of this. In their core strategy response they revealed they still have 60,000 sqm of outline approved permitted office development for Phase 2/3, and the original docs suggest the 1000's of apartments would feature large in the next phases, but that's not going to happen now. It would just be a case of them submitting reserved matters apps.

Pie Factory & Greenhouse kind of block some plots, so its the ones behind Orange/Dock House, plus the strip along the water. I think they've maxed the retail however.

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Unless otherwise agreed in writing by the Local Planning Authority, the maximum gross floor areas/unit numbers within the development including any internal alterations shall not exceed:

B1 Business: 119,120 sqm
Studios/Production Space: 23,225sqm
Live/work units: 4,280 sqm
Residential: 2,249 units
Retail: 2,415 sqm
Leisure: 3,176 sqm
Hotel: 300 bedrooms

http://services.salford.gov.uk/solar...TRR261006A.DOC
06/53168/OUT
Trying to work out whether the new plans show any new format to the Phase 2/3 plots.


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