Mangalore Udupi Bus Transportation Thread

[mangalore mania]

Originally Posted by avi mangalore

Found this KSRTC citybus inside mangalore second depot

Thay are KA 19 registered.

any news on city service in Mangalore

[mangalore mania]

The district administration will discuss with the KSRTC and private bus operators to provide bus pass to those coming to various venues of the National Youth Festival to be held here between January 12 and 16.

The demand for the bus pass was among the several suggestions made during the meeting of public representatives as a prelude to the National Youth Festival in January.

District In-charge Minister J. Krishna Palemar, Deputy Speaker N. Yogish Bhat, Bantwal MLA Ramanath Rai, Mangalore MLA U.T. Khader, Deputy Commissioner N.S. Channappa Gowda and Dakshina Kannada Zilla Panchayat Chief Executive Officer K.N. Vijay Prakash participated in the meeting.

Mr. Gowda said arrangements for accommodation of participants for the National Youth Festival would be looked after by the zilla panchayat. About 6,000 people from 28 States, seven Union Territories and five countries from South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC) would be taking part in the event. According to the official website (www.nyf2012.in), so far 11 people had registered for the event. There had not been any registrations from SAARC countries.

To a question, Mr. Gowda said local people had the opportunity to display their art and culture at five venues in the city. They could register their names with the District Forest Officer, who was the Chairman of the Non-Competitive Events Sub Committee. Arrangements were made to permit participation of differently abled people in the event, Mr. Gowda said.

Mr. Palemar said arrangements were made to light up all main roads of the city. He said temples, churches, mosques, and other establishments along the main roads of the city would be lit up.

[mangalore mania]

The KSRTC has introduced two new multi-axle buses on the Mangalore – Bangalore route on the eve of Christmas. The new bus will be leaving Mangalore at 10 a.m. and will reach Bangalore at 5.15 p.m. This bus will leave Bangalore at 10.14 p.m. and reach Mangalore the next day at 5.45 a.m. Another multi-axle bus will be leaving Mangalore at 10.20 p.m. and will reach Bangalore at 5.20 a.m. This bus will leave Bangalore at 9.06 a.m. and reach Mangalore at 4 p.m. The KSRTC bus has also introduced a multi-axle bus on the Mangalore – Ernakulam route. It will leave Mangalore at 9 p.m. and reach Ernakulam at 6 a.m.

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[mangalore mania]

Travel in Shakespeare’s time, domestic or foreign, was for pleasure and education. In today’s world, most of the travel, especially in cities, is to work and earn a living.

With the advancement and sophistication of IT, there is a small move to work from home and, thus, avoid commuting on jam-struck roads. But, by far an office, shop or factory job involves commuting by public transport, either state-run like KSRTC or by private operators. The setting of fares and the method of collecting them is commuter unfriendly – even tortuous and extortionist.

After the historical fares are set, minimum and add-ons for additional distances are revised upwards from time to time, taking into account the cost of running, specially ever-advancing fuel costs. There is a charade of taking the views of transporters and commuters. At the public hearing organised by the Regional Transport Authority both the transporters and consumers/citizens are given a semblance of a platform to present and argue their points. But, given the nature of lobbies, transporters generally have their way because it is a strong lobby, working with RTOs almost on a daily basis, spending time in RTO’s ante-chamber and often sipping tea with him. They also have the blackmail power of withdrawing service and hold the public to ransom if they do not have their way. The commuters’ lobby is ad hoc and loosely assembled for the public interaction for fare fixing and is not a permanent, cohesive and sustained body.

The transporters lobby has its case well worked out and even canvassed through the media with press conferences, press releases and exclusive interviews. One aspect that is overlooked in fixing the fare is the load factor. The transporters argue about lean times, like early morning and late evening, when the capacity of the bus is underutilized and lesser revenue per trip is realized. This is a valid argument and should be, and is being, taken into account. As commuters increase and additional buses are not put into service proportionately, the lean time spans are getting reduced and peak time durations are correspondingly increased, resulting in heavy overcrowding of buses most of the time.

In this context, the commuter lobbies can argue that during rush hours the transporters are reaping a bonanza which should be taken into account while revising fares. For instance, the 40-seater bus is allowed 10 standies. But, during peak hours, the buses carry even 30 standees, realizing 40% extra illegal collection. This is violation of law and the rights of commuters to travel with minimum discomfort. Thus, we have buses in which commuters are packed like sardines and exposed to the danger of pick-pockets and bottom-pinchers. The point is that RTO and police wink at the illegalities for reasons best known to them – which translate to collusion and conflict of interest for discerning citizens.

But, such overcrowding, and 40% over-realisation of revenue will not be taken into account while fixing fares. Doing so would mean admitting and accepting illegality of overcrowding beyond the legal limit. Thus, the commuters have to suffer increased fares and enforced discomfort. This brings us to the second point of rational bus stages/stops. A new mayor was elected in a city. He called the Commissioner and asked him to fix a street light in front of his bungalow. The official demurred and explained that the request cannot be granted because the distance between two lamp poles is fixed by rule and there cannot be any pole in between. Mangalore’s bus stops might have been determined by the city’s babus and netas to suit their convenience. Like lamp posts, bus stops should be at fixed intervals, say 300 metres, giving marginal concession to road architecture and traffic generation.

For instance, the first stop from Bondel terminus is 300 metres away at Kambla Katte which generates poor traffic. At 200 metres is MGC High school campus lane. The students with their heavy baggage, particularly irksome during monsoons, have to perforce alight/board at the terminus walk 200 metres. Even in Mumbai, there are “request” stops where buses stop, like outside a hospital. As for schools, the “request” can be during the starting and closing hours of schools.

If such stages, as noted, are fixed, the fare structure can be rationalised and the present exploitation by conductors overcharging can be eliminated. When the fares are revised, the buses were to carry a table of fares, noting fares against major stops. If at all it is put up in the wake of revisions, it disappears pronto and the fare is not what the RTO fixed but what the conductor demands. To question that demand is to invite the wrath of the conductor and ridicule of fellow passengers who, even in their misery, do not let go the pleasure of one of them being humiliated.

So, what is the way out? Reorganise the bus routes on rationally devised stages. After the minimum fare, the commuter should be aware that he can travel two stages, say 600 metres, for every additional 50 paise. This will require the transporter to have printed tickets with stages for punching. This is being done by BEST in Mumbai for decades and state transport buses do it in Karnataka and elsewhere. This can effectively stop the large scale loot of commuters going on at present.

Incidentally, when this transparent ticketing is done, commuters will know that if they walk to a stop ahead of them, they can save 50 paise. This will lead to a pressure on bus capacity by about 10% and achieve overall de-congession in city buses.

Finally, there are seats reserved for ladies, handicapped persons and senior citizens. While ladies seats are respected, they also have an obligation to occupy their reserved seats first and then compete for the general seats. Otherwise, it amounts to foreclosing chances of males, as Birlas foreclosed licences under the Licence Raj Regime. As for other reservationists, commuters can occupy them as long as they are no claims from reservists. But, once the reservists raise a claim, it is the duty of the conductor to have the seat vacated for the intended beneficiary (Most conductors shirk this duty now). Incidentally, should the senior citizen carry age proof or will grey hair do? While on the subject, what about women with advanced pregnancy and women carrying a child? Over to you!

[mangalore mania]

I feel the present km based pricing in commuter friendly.. I travel from Kollya to State Bank for 8rs, which is 11km is it not cheap compare to stage based pricing in Mysore and Bangalore..??

[s.yogendra]

yes in stage based fare plp who travel long distance have pay less and short distance more

[mangalore mania]

Mangalore division of Karnataka State Road Transport Corporation ( KSRTC) has started new non-AC bus services from Mangalore and Kundapur to Bangalore and a non-AC bus service from Mangalore to Mysore via Puttur.

Bus service to Jayanagar extension in Bangalore will operate via Uppinangady, Hassan and Kunigal. Buses will depart here at 10.45pm and reach Jayanagar at 7.30am. On its return, buses will start from Jayanagar at 9pm and will arrive at Mangalore via Kunigal and Hassan at 6.15am, a statement from the divisional controller said.

Bus from Kundapur to Bangalore will end at Vijaya Bank Colony extension. Bus will start from Kundapur at 7.30pm and reach Mangalore via Manipal, Udupi and will reach Bangalore via Hassan at 6am. On its return journey, bus will start from Vijaya Bank Colony extension at 8.30pm and reach Kundapur at 8.30am.

Buses from Kundapur to Vijayanagar extension in Bangalore will leave Kundapur at 8pm and reach Mangalore via Manipal, Udupi and Vijaynagar extension in Bangalore via Hassan at 7.20am. On its return journey, buses will depart Vijayanagar extension at 8.15pm and will reach Kundapur via Mangalore at 7.30am.

Bus from Mangalore to Mysore via Puttur, Madikeri, Kushalnagar, Piriyapatna, Hunsur will leave Mangalore at 10.45pm and reach Mysore at 5.45am. On its return journey, bus will leave Mysore at 10.15pm and reach Mangalore at 5.15am.

[mangalore mania]

This bus departs from Mangalore at 15:58





Very comfortable, But unfortunately I ended up in the seat number 33 which had that sleeping baby photo on the window, and the whole journey i slept like dumb as i couldn't see anything from outside. KSRTC should do something about it..

Mangalore-Hyderabad Airavata Club class

[mangalore mania]

Not a good quality, Got this one at Kumta for dinner

The three buses are
Mangalore-Poona Airavata club class
Mangalore-Hyderabad Airavata club class
Mangalore-Mumbai Airavata

[mangalore mania]

The pre-paid autorickshaw counter at the KSRTC Bus Stand in Mangalore.

The year 2011 was a mixed bag in terms of development for the transport sector. While resumption of pre-paid autorickshaw service was a positive development, bus commuters had to burn their pockets with hike in the minimum fare. The new bus stand project at Pumpwell is yet to take shape.

Fare revision

Revision of minimum fare of city, ordinary and express buses was discussed twice in the meeting of the Regional Transport Authority. Following the first meeting in January, RTA fixed the minimum fare at Rs. 4.50 for two km as against the demand for Rs. 6. The meeting was held again in July as the operators had opposed the authority's fare fixation. In September, the authority revised the minimum fare to Rs. 5.

Pre-paid counter

The service of pre-paid autorickshaw resumed at the Mangalore Central Railway Station and the Karnataka State Road Transport Corporation Bus Stand on October 2. Mangalore Association of Travel Agents is running the two counters. There were hiccups in the arrangements, especially at the KSRTC Bus Stand where the association found had to find personnel to run the KSRTC counter and it was closed for a few days. The counter at the bus stand is now open between 9 a.m. and 6 p.m.

Pumpwell bus-stand

Lack of funds led the Mangalore City Corporation to build a bus stand near the Pumpwell junction. It was supposed to be a transportation hub. The corporation has acquired 7.25 acres of land. It is yet to acquire four more acres of land. The corporation wants about Rs. 60 crore to develop a hub. It has sent a proposal to the Directorate of Municipal Administration to permit inclusion of the bus stand work in list of the work to be taken up in the Rs. 100-crore grant.

Drive

The office of the Regional Transport Office launched a drive in September to collect taxes from owners of vehicles from other States plying in the city.

The drive was targeted against owners of high-end cars which were registered in Kerala and Puducherry, where the life time tax amount is less compared to Karnataka. The RTO booked cases against owners of 10 vehicles, including four registered in Puducherry and collected life time tax. The RTO has plans to resume the drive this year too. “This drive will be a surprise one,” said RTO C. Mallikarjuna.

[s.yogendra]

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[akhilesh kinnigoli]

Originally Posted by mangalore mania

Very comfortable, But unfortunately I ended up in the seat number 33 which had that sleeping baby photo on the window, and the whole journey i slept like dumb as i couldn't see anything from outside. KSRTC should do something about it..

In one of the Airavata Club class Mangalore-mumbai Bus Sleeping Baby Photo is cut to half so that no photo on glass.

[mangalore mania]

Originally Posted by akhilesh kinnigoli

In one of the Airavata Club class Mangalore-mumbai Bus Sleeping Baby Photo is cut to half so that no photo on glass.

Thats really great news. Thank you

[staravindan]

Dear Friends

Iam very much new to DK , in my obervation i found that transportation downsouth mangalore is good n efficient by the private transport services.

Supprisingly i found that last service to vittal via mudippu leaves Private bus stand at 7PM, means after 8PM there is complete absence of service b/w mudippu to Vittal .

Why not make Thokkottu Bus Terminus Hub for south bound(trans nethravathi region) bus service. .....and ...
Provide round the clock bus connectivity to City (Private bus stand and KSRTC bus stand) from Thokkottu.

[mangalore mania]

Originally Posted by staravindan

Dear Friends

Iam very much new to DK , in my obervation i found that transportation downsouth mangalore is good n efficient by the private transport services.

Supprisingly i found that last service to vittal via mudippu leaves Private bus stand at 7PM, means after 8PM there is complete absence of service b/w mudippu to Vittal .

Why not make Thokkottu Bus Terminus Hub for south bound(trans nethravathi region) bus service. .....and ...
Provide round the clock bus connectivity to City (Private bus stand and KSRTC bus stand) from Thokkottu.

Good idea, but remember that this is pvt service, they see for profit and not for free service.. Yes govt can think of the idea what you mentioned.. But why would they do. they aren't popular here

[staravindan]

Originally Posted by mangalore mania

Good idea, but remember that this is pvt service, they see for profit and not for free service.. Yes govt can think of the idea what you mentioned.. But why would they do. they aren't popular here

Thats a good sign (but remember that this is pvt service, they see for profit), if the authority concern can allot more license to ply coupled with good road, iam sure well they will be popular .

This will pay way for improving connectivity to rural side of the region.
I hav often noticed overcrowed private bus (especially the Mini type one).

[mangalore mania]

Originally Posted by staravindan

Thats a good sign (but remember that this is pvt service, they see for profit), if the authority concern can allot more license to ply coupled with good road, iam sure well they will be popular .

This will pay way for improving connectivity to rural side of the region.
I hav often noticed overcrowed private bus (especially the Mini type one).

Its a different way of functioning for bus operators here.. They target only couple of trips in morning and couple in evening at peak hours.. If they make their collection there, then they made their day and remaining is all bonus.. More than efficiently maintained timings and fare.. nothing more you can expect here my dear brother.. nothing is gonna change about transportation in this part of the country, the only thing which changes is color and style of the buses

[Suj Mangalore]

Originally Posted by mangalore mania

Its a different way of functioning for bus operators here.. They target only couple of trips in morning and couple in evening at peak hours.. If they make their collection there, then they made their day and remaining is all bonus.. More than efficiently maintained timings and fare.. nothing more you can expect here my dear brother.. nothing is gonna change about transportation in this part of the country, the only thing which changes is color and style of the buses

Well said Mangalore mania.
Not to forget also the speed of the bus will go on increasing

[staravindan]

Originally Posted by mangalore mania

Its a different way of functioning for bus operators here.. They target only couple of trips in morning and couple in evening at peak hours.. If they make their collection there, then they made their day and remaining is all bonus.. More than efficiently maintained timings and fare.. nothing more you can expect here my dear brother.. nothing is gonna change about transportation in this part of the country, the only thing which changes is color and style of the buses

Dear friend

couple of days back ...happend to meet a friend who was one of the designate to monitor the movement of private bus in the region...to ensure that the services are on schedule.... so my friend when you have a system in place... managed by Private Bus associations, then whats the heck in intro of more services, at the end of the day its win-win situation.. both opertors and commuters.

A greater percentage of the sub urbs of indian cities relay on public transport system(Govt: or Private)

and Mangalore is expanding ....