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Old January 11th, 2012, 07:38 AM   #1001
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Some other arrangement needs to be done. If it was a once in a while process, we could have ignored that by Kerala standards. But choking up one of the most crowded part of the city as a weekly process is something we need to reconsider.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 08:00 AM   #1002
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travelling through Kaloor on a Tuesdaay is an absolute nightmare.Masses and vehicles parked on the main road has led to an absolute chaos.Why dont the administration hold talks with the church and create some parking space elsewhere.I am sure people wont mind walking a few steps for Jesus.Its ridiculous how traffic is held up.Cant our traffic spot people parking vehs bang on the road?We shud learn to seperate religious sentiments and law and order.Both has to be respected but both shud respect each other.Hope something is done in the right direction.
The church has some land near Asoka Road and can easily ask its devotees to use the parking space.... Moreover, when the new chapel was constructed due to heavy rush, they could have done in such a way, space is there for parking vehicles underground or upstairs.....

The problem is no one is really much concerned about.... Eariler it was elephants from Temple festivals, causing much traffic problems during festivities.... Thats now solved with a HC order.... I hope HC will intervene again to solve this ridicule
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Old January 11th, 2012, 08:12 AM   #1003
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There is a parking lot just opposite to the church. Not sure if it is being used. Given our legendary reluctance to use parking lots.

It is not parking that creates most of the problems. It is people crossing the road haphazardly, and vehicles trying to browbeat them.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 08:22 AM   #1004
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And the stretch from JNIS to Kaloor is one of the slimmest stretch in the city. It was a 2 lane road, which by taking a metre from boths end were made into 4 lane. No one is talking about developing that. I am not sure how the metro alignment passes. I don't see a 'mm' to give for metro viaduct!

I always get scared driving there, particularly when i see a Red giant on my rear view mirror!
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Old January 11th, 2012, 08:27 AM   #1005
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I would just say that OC has regained his common sense.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 08:30 AM   #1006
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This is why goshree mamangalam is such a key road. Corporation should push really hard for it. Tats the only way this bottleneck can be resolved
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Old January 11th, 2012, 08:34 AM   #1007
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This is why Goshree-Mamangalam is such a key road. Corporation should push really hard for it. Tats the only way this bottleneck can be resolved
Its there in the list of 19 roads of CRIP. I pin my hopes here
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Old January 11th, 2012, 08:49 AM   #1008
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This is why goshree mamangalam is such a key road. Corporation should push really hard for it. Tats the only way this bottleneck can be resolved
But How? The Mamangalam-Pottakuzhi area is filled with too many residential areas, most of the houses built on 5 cents land, too close to existing road having less than 8 meters width..... In some stretches its again far lower than that.....

Acqusition if ever, takes, would make much more record than any other place....

According to me, the alternative extended Marine Drive Extension upto Vaduthala area, where the Vallarpadam Rail Duct pass away. An overbridge parallel to the Railduct can be considered and it will cross the rail in the open land soon after the merger of raillines....

A bridge crossing Perandoor Canal, takes directly to Edappally Raghavan Pillai road. The ERP road is more wider than Mamangalam road and bldgs have comparatively more open frontage, so as to help to wider..... The EPR opens up to NH near Changampuzha Park, perfectly helping half of vehicles to use this alternative road, instead of Kaloor.... Moreover during construction of Metro, when Kaloor areas gets closed, this alternative road will help....

Secondly if Pipeline road is more developed, half of the city bound traffic from Edappally will also move via it, reducing pressure on Kaloor.....

The funds for these road projects can be easily derived by sale of prestigious land extension of Marine Drive upto Vaduthala.... After all, sand dredged out of Cochin Channel can be put into better use... Half of the proceedings can go to CPT, helping to solve its crisis too........
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Old January 11th, 2012, 01:38 PM   #1009
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Metro comments from E. Sreedharan today .... Final decision tomorrow ...

http://www.mathrubhumi.com/story.php?id=243753
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Old January 11th, 2012, 04:50 PM   #1010
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We cant change the present situation entirely,but HC shud intervene and ban any religious construction on the main road in future.also force the existing ones to abide by the rule of the land.Even God likes to abide by the law,its us mere mortals who dont want to believe so.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 05:09 PM   #1011
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We cant change the present situation entirely,but HC shud intervene and ban any religious construction on the main road in future.also force the existing ones to abide by the rule of the land.Even God likes to abide by the law,its us mere mortals who dont want to believe so.
A Pedestrian over bridge(foot bridge) like the one in Gandhipuram, Coimbatore is a good idea to prevent pedestrians from disrupting traffic. build one somewhere close to the Novena Church.
and ofcourse, a budget version of such a footbridge will work wonder.
here it is :

Last edited by keralite; January 11th, 2012 at 06:22 PM. Reason: "disrupting" not "destructing" traffic :P corrected my poor englisch
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Old January 11th, 2012, 05:15 PM   #1012
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Why budgeted version.No need to be a miser regarding infrastructure projects.Govt shud build infact a better one.Good suggestion Keralite.Anyway we can just wish and discuss.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 05:23 PM   #1013
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A Pedestrian over bridge(foot bridge) like the one in Gandhipuram, Coimbatore is a good idea to prevent pedestrians from destructing traffic. build one somewhere close to the Novena Church.
and ofcourse, a budget version of such a footbridge will work wonder.
here it is :
Do you think, its going to work in Cochin, unless authorities go in for a forced mechanism? Years back, we had similar foot-overbridges in Kacheripady.... Later the collector ordered to dismantle, after finding no use, as most of public continue to cross the road....

In India, most of the cities face this problem... Perhaps, common to Asian cities, unless authorities force the people to use it, by errecting huge wall-like barricades in medians or signal free junctions with extreme speedy traffic etc...

In Chennai I have seen, many people trying to jump the 7 feet high barricade wall in the median at Poomalalee High Road near Chennai Central, just to avoid climbing subway....

In Dubai, in many stretches, Pakistanis used to break the median walls to allow crossing, which later was re-fenced with electric wires too to avoid such attempts.....

I think, unless we errect high walls with electric fences, laid with glass spikes and cameras to detect violations, such systems may not work here......
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Old January 11th, 2012, 05:45 PM   #1014
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If we go by civic sense no project can come up in our country.But Delhi which has got a reputation of destroying public property still went ahead with the metro,but not a single seat was scratched or lights broken.If people of Delhi can rise to the occassion ,we can expect our educated crowd to act as good and responsible citizens.And yes you r right it has to be enforced,but not only by authorities but by fellow citizens.We see something wrong,we never question.We let it simply happen.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 06:20 PM   #1015
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but, I think such a foot bridge near kaloor church will really ease traffic. I am sure, Authorities must be knowing this kind of solutions. again, media or authorities or common men don't care much .
leave this traffic jam, 20 years back itself, we would've flyovers in vyttila,edappally jns the biggest traffic bottlenecks. it is not even realized in 2012. god save Kochi city. now that Mullaperiyar issue will take place maximum political importance, other projects all will be laid to rest.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 06:31 PM   #1016
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but, I think such a foot bridge near kaloor church will really ease traffic. I am sure, Authorities must be knowing this kind of solutions. again, media or authorities or common men don't care much .
leave this traffic jam, 20 years back itself, we would've flyovers in vyttila,edappally jns the biggest traffic bottlenecks. it is not even realized in 2012. god save Kochi city. now that Mullaperiyar issue will take place maximum political importance, other projects all will be laid to rest.
Very true.... We seriously lag in infrastructure development and this is one major reason for our state's development lagging... This is not Kochi centric problem, rather prevail all over Kerala.... Hope atleast from now, the prime agenda moves creating better infrastructure....

To address Kaloor situation, I feel an alternative is to set-up an underpass from KK road to Penrandoor Road, making Kaloor road signal free. This will reduce vehicles stopping near Kaloor Junction, allowing pedestrians moving.... A high barricade must be set up in median with barricade railings on footpaths, preventing people.

The Kaloor Metro station, when designing, should include a feature of Pedestrian road crossing, as seen in Dubai Metro stations.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 07:18 PM   #1017
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This is where the lack of planning becomes apparent. The best solution was to reconstruct the North ROB as an elevated flyover starting from JNIS and ending at Kacheripady (with a entry / exit at Lissy and Town Hall). As planned now , the metro pillars could have taken the median and the tracks occupying the second layer.

Considering the hassles and cost it takes to acquire land for road widening, this would have worked out as a more cost viable option.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 07:20 PM   #1018
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A press conference attended by architects and environmentalists accused Yasoram Builders of violating environmental laws in their proposed project Skycity. Work on the project which was shelved 8 years back due to lack of permission from the government suddenly started, raising suspicion among the protesters.
Really? Has the construction started? I think this is a wrong news!

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Old January 11th, 2012, 07:46 PM   #1019
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We still haven't got one major point.... KMRL is not doing works independently, rather the turnkey works is done by the WINNING PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING EXPERTISE based on a global tender. KMRL will be learning anyway under one engineering company, call it any name; DMRC or Siemens or Mitsubishi or Reliance etc....

DMRC has an excellent record, doesn't mean, its the ONLY COMPANY IN THE WORLD to have such. There are N number of companies....

I am questioning the attitude of public, how can favouritism to a PSU by awarding a project without TENDER as NOT CORRUPT, while a mere similar action involving a private company will be branded as corruption at first instance....

If E.Sreedharan says, he is ready to work only if Kochi Metro works hands over L&T, will our public agree? Such attitude is wrong, irrespective who says what and whether its PSU or Private company. There should be level playing ground at very first instance.

It is true DMRC is not the only metro-construction agency in the world. But the issue here is that the government apparently had fixed with Sreedaharan and DMRC, and then suddenly seemed to change track. We also have the MD issue statements that contradict the Chief Minister's stance. All these leads to strong suspicions of foul-play. If the government, at the very onset, before involving DMRC or Sreedharan had announced a global tender, then the issue would not have raked so much of a controversy.

Moreover, it is now clarified that the Japan funding agency does not require a global tender if DMRC is the consultant. Yet this was the primary reason given to justify the global tender. The impression this gives is that such justification was either the a deliberately ploy to hoodwink the public, or a result of ignorance. In either case, it does not put KMRL and the UDF in good light.

A bigger issue is track-record and precedent.

Compare Sreedharan's integrity with that of Tom Jos, who, as the media (Kairali) reported today, was involved in the Mattancherry BOT fiasco.

What is wrong with the attitude of the public if they refuse to trust or believe in a person apparently involved in a big scam (Mattancherry BOT) and rather pin hopes on someone else who has let his actions rather than words do the talking till now. Even V M Sudheeran, one of the most senior and credible Congress leaders have criticised Tom Jose and demanded his sacking.



Sreedharan has also clarified today why he insists on DMRC. The importance of teamwork can never be underestimated in the successful completion of projects. Most management experts hold successful and cohesive teams as one of the key requirements for successful project execution. Sreedharan already has forged such a team in DMRC. If he heads KMRL without DMRC's involvement, his team will be lost, virtually rendering him ineffective.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 08:30 PM   #1020
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It is true DMRC is not the only metro-construction agency in the world. But the issue here is that the government apparently had fixed with Sreedaharan and DMRC, and then suddenly seemed to change track. We also have the MD issue statements that contradict the Chief Minister's stance. All these leads to strong suspicions of foul-play. .....
Completely agree with your views on this .. and more over, we know how a global tender can slow down things for years .. each day's loss will cost us additional crores ;-(
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