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Old January 20th, 2012, 06:27 PM   #1681
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TN growth is going to get stunted, if every development / project is going to get blocked by courts in the name of environment clearance.
This is a Pan-India problem.. Unless and until, a proper framework is worked out for speedy environmental clearance, infra building in the whole country will suffer
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Old January 20th, 2012, 07:51 PM   #1682
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I understand that the environmental clearance is a common problem across India, but not going to court for each and every issue stopping the Govt. from doing anything.

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Old January 20th, 2012, 09:10 PM   #1683
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Public Interest Petition

If 5 petitions can be filed not concurrently but sequentially,the malefic spectre shall have gone past TN, enabling the LA building to be put to its designed purpose.
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Old January 21st, 2012, 08:05 AM   #1684
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So we are going to end up with a humongous ghost building for the next few years at least.
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Old January 21st, 2012, 08:35 AM   #1685
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Govt to push ahead on makeover
FOR SECRETARIAT ALTERATION, GOVT TO SEEK NOD FROM GREEN BODY, WHOSE TERM HAS EXPIRED






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The state government has decided to move the State Environment Impact Assessment Authority (SEIAA) on Monday to get clearance for its plans to modify the new secretariat complex and turn it into a multi-specialty hospital-cum-medical college. The decision comes in the wake of the Madras high court’s interim order halting the government’s plans.

Interestingly, the authority remains only on paper. The three-year tenure of the SEIAA, comprising experts in the field of environment, lapsed in March 2011. The situation is no different for the State-level Expert Appraisal Committee (SEAC), which forwards applications to the SEIAA for final approvals. The director of environment, who is the ex-officio member-secretary of the SEIAA, continues to hold the post, but the authority has no other members.

It is said that the environment department has shortlisted new members for the SEIAA and SEAC, and the list has been sent to the Union ministry for approval. In the last nine months, applicants seeking environmental clearances were directed to approach the Union ministry of environment and forests.

With the SEIAA members yet to be appointed, the PWD is left with no option but to submit its application to the state pollution control board for clearance of the hospital project. “The application for modifying the existing complex will be submitted on Monday to the environment secretary, who is also the chairman of state pollution control board,” a PWD official said. But the government wants to keep its original schedule of March first week to kick off the modification/alteration works. A tender floated by the PWD’s building department recently for the high-cost modification suggests that the bids will be opened on January 25.

The state wants to remove all hurdles and begin negotiations with the lowest bidder at once so that workers can be mobilized and funds sanctioned immediately. “Only 10% of the original structure will have to be modified and we will ensure all the works are done as per schedule,” sources said.

As per the plan, the proposed super-specialty hospital will get a 400-bed facility for the departments of cardiology and cardiothoracic, neurology and neuro surgery, hand and reconstructive microsurgery, oncology, vascular surgery and post-operative care and intensive care unit. The proposed hospital, it is said, will receive patients for outpatient care directly or through referrals. The in-patient care would be largely by referrals only. Hence the hospital would complement the existing government hospitals rather than compete with them.

In October 2008, the SEIAA granted its first environmental clearance for the construction of the six-storeyed complex with a glass dome. Interestingly, the approval obtained by the previous DMK regime suggested there was no need for a public consultation.

CM discusses action plan with officials

The state government is determined to go ahead with its plan to convert the new secretariat complex into a multi-specialty hospital, but only with the mandatory clearances and nod from the Madras high court. Soon after the high court passed an interim order restraining the government from going ahead with the work, Tamil Nadu chief minister J Jayalalithaa held a lengthy discussion with the health minister and health secretary at the secretariat, discussing the legal issues and future course of action, a source said. “During the meeting, it was decided to complete all formalities to get environment clearance and restart alteration works at the earliest,” the source said. Meanwhile, PWD sources said, the civil works like construction of ramps for the alteration works, have been temporarily stopped in the wake of the court order. “We have directed that work be halted temporarily”, a PWD official said. The state government had begun constructing ramps for alterations around the complex, which was built by the previous DMK regime. It had also floated tenders to select companies to carry out various alteration works from ground floor to sixth floor of the assembly hall to convert the complex into a hospital. TNN

JOURNEY SO FAR
June 2008: DMK president and former chief minister M Karunanidhi lays foundation stone for the new assembly and secretariat complex at Omandurar Estate on Anna Salai
2009: Germany-based architect firm GMP designs the building and construction is entrusted to East Coast Constructions and Industries Limited
2010: A portion of the building, including the assembly hall and rooms of chief minister and other ministers, is completed. On March 13, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh inaugurates the complex
in the presence of UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi Feb 2011: Interim budget of the DMK government is presented in the new assembly May 2011: After taking over as chief minister, AIADMK supremo
J Jayalalithaa decides to abandon the partially-built secretariat complex and takes oath in the old assembly hall at Fort St George June 2011: Government appoints a judicial commission headed by retired judge S Thangaraj to probe alleged irregularities in construction
of the new assembly. Charges fly thick and fast against the retired judge and he finally quits citing personal reasons. Another retired judge, R Regupathi, is appointed
chairperson of the commission Aug 2011: Jayalalithaa informs the assembly of the government’s decision to convert the new assembly complex into a multi-specialty hospital
Sept 2011: Advocate Veeramani
files a plea in the high court seeking a stay on the government’s decision regarding the new secretariat Jan 2012: HC stays government move to convert the building into a multi-speciality hospital
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Old January 21st, 2012, 12:37 PM   #1686
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I dont think any of there project gets completed just to stop one and to avoid people questioning them
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 07:33 AM   #1687
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By the time, environment ministry gives a go ahead (namma jayanthi natarajan can hold it, if dmk/cong team up), there could be change in guard here...(can they drag it for 4 odd years?)...if that happens, we might have to change the title of this thread, again....
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Old February 4th, 2012, 02:28 AM   #1688
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Posters all over the walls of New Assembly complex





Anna century library will get the same treatment in near future.

Don't know about the status of Semozhi poonga and Adyar partk.

How long they are going to waste tax payers money????

Dirty ass holes......
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Old February 5th, 2012, 12:15 AM   #1689
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Dravadian Parties' Childishness

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Anna century library will get the same treatment in near future.

Don't know about the status of Semozhi poonga and Adyar partk.

How long they are going to waste tax payers money????

Dirty ass holes......
(Moved to Chennai Discussions thread)

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Old March 12th, 2012, 08:46 PM   #1690
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The sore thumb in the Fort..

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Sticking out like a sore thumb midst the handsome Classical buildings in the Fort — all badly in need of restoration — is the ten-storied Namakkal Kavignar Maaligai , housing the offices of many of the Ministers and Secretaries. This tasteless bit of tower block architecture has, I learn, been declared a valuable bit of 1970s-style Indian architecture and is to be restored, believe it or not, on the lines of a heritage building at a cost of some Rs.28 crore with the blessings of the Archaeological Department and the Heritage Conservation Committee! And a grand silence — is it a shocked silence? — reigns all around.

But an even greater reason than necessity for renovation in the Fort is that if there is one place in post-1947 India that needs to be considered a World Heritage Site, it is Fort St. George from where modern India began. Restoring the Fort to get that prestigious status is what Government should be focusing on more than restoring the Namakkal Kavignar Maaligai .

As I've said often enough before, the best place for the State Government's offices would be the abandoned ‘New Secretariat' and its environs, to which the offices could be moved after cutting down the Namakkal Kavignar Maaligai to Fort St. George size.
Mr Muthaiah - Historian

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Old March 12th, 2012, 09:24 PM   #1691
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No where "MR. Muthiah - Historian" has been quoted (or) given credit for this article.

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Old March 13th, 2012, 11:19 AM   #1692
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It is Mr. Muthiah's weekly column in The Hindu.

Even I feel it when ever I go to the Secretariat. Regular PWD construction without any idea of aesthetics.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 04:20 PM   #1693
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புதிய தலைமைச் செயலகம் தடையால் மக்களின் வரிப்பணம் வீணாகிறது - தமிழக அரசு பதில்

புதிய தலைமைச் செயலகத்தை மருத்துவமனையாக மாற்றக்கூடாது என்று பிறப்பிக்கப்பட்ட தடை தொடர்ந்து நீடிக்கப்பட்டால் மக்களின் வரிப்பணம் வீணாகும் சென்னை உயர் நீதிமன்றத்தில் தமிழக அரசு பதில் அளித்துள்ளது.

கடந்த தி.மு.க. ஆட்சியில் சென்னை ஓமந்தூரார் அரசினர் தோட்டத்தில் கட்டப்பட்ட புதிய தலைமைச் செயலகத்தை அ.தி.மு.க. அரசு பயன்படுத்தாமல் பல்நோக்கு நவீன சிறப்பு மருத்துவமனையாக மாற்றப்படும் என்று அறிவித்தது.

இதை எதிர்த்து வழக்கறிஞர் ஆர்.வீரமணி தாக்கல் *ெசய்த மனுவில், புதிய தலைமைச் செயலகத்தை இடித்து மாற்றி மருத்துவமனைக்கான வசதிகளை அங்கு ஏற்படுத்துவதற்கு மேலும் ரூ.50 கோடி முதல் ரூ.100 கோடிவரை கூடுதல் செலவாகும். அங்கு மருத்துவமனையை கொண்டு வந்தால், தற்போதுள்ள கட்டுமானப் பகுதியில் 60 சதவீதம் வீணாகும்.எனவே இந்த சிறப்பு மருத்துவமனை அமைக்கும் முடிவை நிறுத்தி வைக்க உத்தரவிட வேண்டும் என்று கூறியிருந்தார்.

இந்த மனுவை விசாரித்த நீதிபதிகள் டி.முருகேசன், பி.பி.எஸ்.ஜனார்த்தனராஜா ஆகியோர் கொண்ட அமர்வு, மருத்துவமனையாக மாற்ற கடந்த ஜனவரி 20ஆம் தேதி இடைக்கால தடை விதித்தது.

இந்த நிலையில் தமிழக அரசு சார்பில் பொதுப்பணித் துறையின் துணைச் செயலாளர் சி.சுப்பிரமணியன் தாக்கல் செய்த பதில் மனுவில், புதிய தலைமைச் செயலக கட்டிடத்தை நவீன மருத்துவமனையாக மாற்றுவது அரசின் கொள்கை முடிவு. அதில் மனுதாரர் குறுக்கிட முடியாது. புதிய தலைமைச் செயலகம் தொடர்பாக கடந்த 28.6.11 அன்று உயர் நீதிமன்றம் உத்தரவிட்டது.

அதில், 'அரசு எங்கு செயல்பட வேண்டும் என்பதை அரசே முடிவு செய்யலாம். பழைய தலைமைச் செயலகத்தில் இருந்து செயல்படுவதாக அரசு முடிவு செய்தால் அதில் உயர் நீதிமன்றம் குறுக்கிடாது' என்று தெரிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.

புதிய தலைமைச் செயலகத்துக்கு அரசு செல்ல வேண்டும் என்று கோரிய மனுவை பரிசீலிக்கும்படி உயர் நீதிமன்றம் 9.9.11 அன்று உத்தரவிட்டது. அதை பரிசீலித்து அரசு உத்தரவை பிறப்பித்துவிட்டது. எனவே புதிய தலைமைச் செயலக விவகாரம் முடிந்துபோன ஒன்று. எனவே தற்போது தாக்கல் செய்யப்பட்டுள்ள மனுக்களை விசாரணைக்கு எடுத்துக்கொள்ளத் தேவையில்லை.

கட்டிடம் கட்டுவதற்காக கடந்த அரசு, மத்திய சுற்றுப்புறசூழல் அமைச்சகத்தின் அனுமதியைப் பெற்றிருந்தது. ஆனால் அந்த கட்டிடத்தை உபயோகிக்கத் தொடங்குவதற்கு முன்பு பெற வேண்டிய அனுமதியை கடந்த அரசு பெறவில்லை. நாங்கள் தமிழ்நாடு மாசுக்கட்டுப்பாட்டு வாரியத்தின் அனுமதியை பெற்ற பிறகே மரு*த்துவமனையாக மாற்றுவோம். இதில் மத்திய அரசின் அனுமதியைப் பெறத்தேவையில்லை. கட்டிடத்தின் வடிவமைப்பை மாற்ற அவசியம் ஏற்படவில்லை.

கட்டிடத்துக்குள் பைப் லைன், மருத்துவ கழிவுகள் அகற்றும் கட்டமைப்பு, மின் இணைப்புகள் உள்ளிட்டவற்றுக்காக சில மாற்றங்களை மட்டுமே அரசு கொண்டு வரும். ஏழை மக்களின் உடல்நலனை பாதுகாப்பதற்காகத்தான் அப்படியொரு முடிவை அரசு எடுத்தது. தற்போதுள்ள தடையால் மக்கள் நலனை பாதுகாப்பதில் முன்னேற்றம் ஏற்படவில்லை. அதற்கான தடையை நீக்க வேண்டும். தொடர்ந்து தடை நீடித்தால், மக்களின் வரிப்பணம் வீணாகும் என்று மனுவில் கூறப்பட்டுள்ளது.

இதையடுத்து வழக்கு விசாரணையை வரும் 28-ம் தேதிக்கு நீதிபதிகள் தள்ளிவைத்தனர்.

http://tamil.webdunia.com/newsworld/...20313018_1.htm

English summary
The Tamil Nadu government has told the Madras High Court that the "incomplete" structure of the new secretariat complex here and ongoing civil works posed safety and security concerns making it necessary to shift back to the Fort St George complex. Deputy Secretary in the state PWD, C Subramanian, claimed that the government policy adopted by the state cabinet on August 19 last to use the structure for a multi-super speciality hospital and a government medial college "is rational, legal and not arbitrary".

http://tamil.oneindia.in/news/2012/0...s-aid0216.html

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Old March 24th, 2012, 10:03 PM   #1694
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Thumbs down Haunted House

Current status of new secretariat complex.

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Any update on Semozhi poonga and Kotturpuram library maintenance?

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Old April 18th, 2012, 01:07 AM   #1695
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86 lacks has been allocated to reconstruct the Ganapathi temple in new secretariat complex. The temple was acquired by previous DMK govt. to construct the secretariat.



Aathavum Thathavum panra akka poorukku allavillama poochey...
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Old April 18th, 2012, 03:44 AM   #1696
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It is said that Rome was vandalised because the vandals couldn't understand it.
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Old April 18th, 2012, 04:34 AM   #1697
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is this building still there or have they demolished it just because their rival party built it?
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Old April 26th, 2012, 01:03 AM   #1698
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CM: Kalaivanar Arangam soon

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The Kalaivanar Arangam, a familiar landmark on Wallajah Road that was razed to the ground by the previous DMK government to build the new secretariat complex, will soon come up in a grand manner, chief minister J. Jayalalithaa told the Assembly on Wednesday.

“Very soon my government will construct a grand auditorium on the same spot,” chief minister J. Jayalalithaa said amidst thumping of tables by the Treasury Benches. Promptly responding to a plea by PI (M) member G. Beem Rao, Ms. Jayalalithaa said, “The member pointed out that Kalaivanar Arangam was completely bulldozed during the previous rule of minority DMK and that the place is still vacant. The auditorium will be built there in a grand manner.”

This well-known auditorium in the city once housed the state Legislative Assembly and hosted thousands of cultural events, meetings and official ceremonies, till the curtains finally came down on it.

The decades-old auditorium, named after late thinker-comedian N.S. Krishnan, was inaugurated in January 1974 by then chief minister M. Karunanidhi and has 1,039 seats.

Later, intervening the speech of Congress legislator J. G. Prince, the chief minister reminded, “the member says I should recommend to the Centre to bring the Padmanabhapuram palace (in Kanyakumari district) under the administrative control of Tamil Nadu.

During the states’ reorganisation in 1956, when states were divided on linguistic basis, the Congress which was in power at the Centre then decided to give the palace to Kerala.”

When Mr Prince asked the state government to build an airport in Kanyakumari, tourism minister S. Gokula Indira remarked, “this shows that the Congress member has reposed faith on the chief minister to give impetus to Central projects.”

MIn: dmk kept mum on siddha college row

Health minister Dr V. S. Vijay on Wednesday charged DMK and Congress with failing to intervene when the Central government Ayush department banned classes at the Government Siddha Medical College in Palayamkottai.

Replying to a query in the Assembly, Dr Vijay said citing lack of infrastructure, Ayush department had banned classes.

“The Union health ministry did not take steps to revoke its order to allow conduct of classes even after the chief minister took steps address infrastructure issue,” he said.

The minister said the classes have begun after the students got a favourable order from the Madras high court. “We have come to know that the Ayush department is planning to approach the apex court against the high court order,” he said.

Ironically, he said DMK’s Gandhiselvan who holds the Union minister of state for health portfolio did not act on it.
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WTF. She is playing cheap politics games, there are lot of issues to be addressed on priority basis.

He wasted 1000 crores for demolishing and construction and now she is wasting another 1000 crores to rebuild and demolish again.
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Mr Muthaiah - Historian

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper...cle2985948.ece
Namakkal building for renovation at the cost of 28 crores? I was thinking once, when new secratriate was in build (during DMK), they will demolish this useless building... It sounds highly idiotic to hear that it is getting renvoated at the whopping cost...

There are other beautiful buildings in the city which cries for renovation... Chepak palace which was recently got fired requires such attention. In fact all office should be kicked out of such heritage building... and make it light usage like museum/heritage hospitality business.

Truely, it is Atha Vs Thatha... Akka por...
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