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Old February 4th, 2012, 01:58 AM   #1161
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On the other hand Christchurch has gone down to
367,700. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch or
http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_...es-tables.aspx
Is expected to loose more people as red zone suburbs are cleared of housing in 2013.

Bit of a shame, it was on track to hit 400k very soon.
Still, a boon for Timaru/Dunedin/Invercargill/Nelson.
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Old February 6th, 2012, 09:10 AM   #1162
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This is from Queen City Law's website regarding Elliot Tower (updated December):
I cannot find this anyhere.

Could you please give us a link?

It will be very interesting to read.
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Old February 6th, 2012, 09:22 AM   #1163
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I cannot find this anyhere.

Could you please give us a link?

It will be very interesting to read.
Here you go:

http://www.queencitylaw.co.nz/servic...evelopment.php
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Old February 6th, 2012, 09:35 AM   #1164
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I've read on their site and 2 projects really catch my eye...

28-32 Shortland Street


and

Greys Avenue


Are they waiting for funding? I don't understand what stage they are in the process. I'm very excited nonetheless. Sorry if I seem like I don't much about these things. Just an enthusiast.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 04:25 AM   #1165
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Here's an interesting statistic from an article in the Taranaki Daily Newspaper here

THE BIGGEST LOSERS (net permanent migration)

1: Waikato -1588

2: Canterbury -1548

3: Bay of Plenty-1340

4: Northland -921

5: Hawke's Bay -780

10: Taranaki -275
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Old February 7th, 2012, 04:32 AM   #1166
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I've read on their site and 2 projects really catch my eye...

28-32 Shortland Street


and

Greys Avenue


Are they waiting for funding? I don't understand what stage they are in the process. I'm very excited nonetheless. Sorry if I seem like I don't much about these things. Just an enthusiast.
I wouldn't get too excited those sites are just for sale. The shortland street site had been where Korean developer Dae Ju (original developer of the Elliot tower) had planned to build a tower ,which they got consented. A couple of years ago they said they were putting Elliot on hold and this one would be full steam ahead (they have since sold the Elliot site to another developer I think) however it looks like they have canned Shortland Street and are selling that as well . Who knows when something would be built there it has been empty for over twenty years. Don't know anything about the Grey's ave site.

I also would not get hopes too high about Elliot it is positive that they appear to want to progress the project but as we have seen anything can happen in a year and we have seen a number of developments (Saffron, Rhubarb lane) that have supposedly been on track to start contruction only to fall over due to a lack of funding. A $400 million tower is hugely ambitious in a city this size, good luck to them if they do pull it off but i wouldn't be surprised if they can't. Don't mean to be the voice of doom but given how things are the odds would be against it.

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Old February 7th, 2012, 05:29 AM   #1167
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Here's an interesting statistic from an article in the Taranaki Daily Newspaper here

THE BIGGEST LOSERS (net permanent migration)

1: Waikato -1588

2: Canterbury -1548

3: Bay of Plenty-1340

4: Northland -921

5: Hawke's Bay -780

10: Taranaki -275
I wonder who gained the most?
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Old February 7th, 2012, 08:26 AM   #1168
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Here's an interesting statistic from an article in the Taranaki Daily Newspaper here

THE BIGGEST LOSERS (net permanent migration)

1: Waikato -1588

2: Canterbury -1548

3: Bay of Plenty-1340

4: Northland -921

5: Hawke's Bay -780

10: Taranaki -275
I don't understand 1 and 3? How can Waikato and BoP take two of the top three spots for a net population loss?
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Old February 7th, 2012, 10:12 AM   #1169
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It is quite surprising that the Waikato has had a large net outflow of people than Canterbury, considering the Christchurch earthquakes.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 02:11 PM   #1170
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Maybe those stats are just the number of immigrants minus the number of migrants rather than net population loss (i.e not taking into account natural increase.)
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Old February 7th, 2012, 03:01 PM   #1171
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I wonder who gained the most?
Auckland?
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Old February 7th, 2012, 06:20 PM   #1172
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I wouldn't get too excited those sites are just for sale. The shortland street site had been where Korean developer Dae Ju (original developer of the Elliot tower) had planned to build a tower ,which they got consented. A couple of years ago they said they were putting Elliot on hold and this one would be full steam ahead (they have since sold the Elliot site to another developer I think) however it looks like they have canned Shortland Street and are selling that as well . Who knows when something would be built there it has been empty for over twenty years. Don't know anything about the Grey's ave site.

I also would not get hopes too high about Elliot it is positive that they appear to want to progress the project but as we have seen anything can happen in a year and we have seen a number of developments (Saffron, Rhubarb lane) that have supposedly been on track to start contruction only to fall over due to a lack of funding. A $400 million tower is hugely ambitious in a city this size, good luck to them if they do pull it off but i wouldn't be surprised if they can't. Don't mean to be the voice of doom but given how things are the odds would be against it.
Plenty of $400 million towers have been built in far less a city than Auckland.Its more of a mindset thing.No disrespect but we all know how they operate in some third world countries.
Look because of the ongoing GFC you're not going to see too many of these projects being built anywhere in the world outside of Asia.
Although this maybe still on the cards there is still no confidence or willingness in our market and so will not be built for some time.Once the confidence returns it will be all on again.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 08:42 PM   #1173
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Auckland?
You're right; Auckland gained around 6200.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 08:44 PM   #1174
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I don't understand 1 and 3? How can Waikato and BoP take two of the top three spots for a net population loss?
Hamilton and Tauranga have growing populations, but in keeping with the current trends in migration nationally, the rural areas of the region are losing population.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 10:30 PM   #1175
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Plenty of $400 million towers have been built in far less a city than Auckland.Its more of a mindset thing.No disrespect but we all know how they operate in some third world countries.
Look because of the ongoing GFC you're not going to see too many of these projects being built anywhere in the world outside of Asia.
Although this maybe still on the cards there is still no confidence or willingness in our market and so will not be built for some time.Once the confidence returns it will be all on again.
I agree it would take a long time for this project to happen. However I wouldn't be so confident it will be "all on" again. In Auckland, with regards to real highrise developments it was never really all on in the first place. Real highrise developments have been pretty limited even during boom times. Many of the sites around the city, including the Elliot have been empty for over twenty years so i wouldn't be too sure that suddenly skyscrapers will spring from the ground here even when confidence comes back to the economy. I guess my point is that there is a fair chance that many of the ambitious projects like Elliot may never have gone ahead even if the GFC had not come. It pays to temper expectations when it comes to this city.
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Old February 8th, 2012, 09:39 AM   #1176
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Hamilton and Tauranga have growing populations, but in keeping with the current trends in migration nationally, the rural areas of the region are losing population.
Would also have to ponder at how many moving out of Waikato/BOP are moving to Auckland.. just a short drive north.
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Old February 8th, 2012, 10:03 AM   #1177
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Old February 11th, 2012, 04:50 PM   #1178
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PROJECTED POPULATION OF REGIONAL COUNCIL AREAS 2006-2031
































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Old February 24th, 2012, 12:33 AM   #1179
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Old February 24th, 2012, 03:59 AM   #1180
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Those statistics IThomas posted may soon be out of date for the Nelson and Tasman regions with amalgamation now imminent.
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