What is the Suicide Rate in Your City/Country? - Page 2

fbeavis · February 10th, 2012, 06:25 AM

Suicide is considered a grave sin in the Abrahamic religions (Xtianity, Islam, and Judaism)

That's why the suicide rate is low in religious countries such as Brasil, the Philippines, or just about any Islamic nation.

***Jonesy55*** · February 10th, 2012, 05:40 PM

UK suicide stats for 2010 were published recently.

Key points

Overall rate, 11.1 per 100,000 adults. About 8 times higher than the homicide rate....

In 2010 there were 5,608 suicides in people aged 15 years and over in the UK, 67 fewer than the 5,675 recorded in 2009

There were 4,231 suicides among men in 2010 (17.0 per 100,000 population)

In women there were 1,377 suicides in 2010 (5.3 per 100,000 population)

In 2010 suicide rates were highest in those aged 45-74 at 17.7 per 100,000 for men and 6.0 per 100,000 for women

There were big reductions in the suicide rate during the 80s and 90s but the trend has been flat over the past few years.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/subnat...-bulletin.html

pesto · February 10th, 2012, 09:31 PM

A couple of thoughts.

The main reason that that developing countries are low is that people die at younger ages, record keeping is poor and administrative accuracy doubtful.

The "Ibrahimic countries" theory doesn't seem to work very well since it would include Eastern Europe, which is at the very top. There is probably also some doubt about the "low" suicide levels as well since countries with religious influence over the govt. will get pressure to underreport.

The highest rates are NOT among developed countries; as mentioned above, they are among Eastern European countries. The presumed reasons are lack of a strong cultural ethic against suicide and lack of hope due to authoritarian govts. and weak economies.

Japan has always been high, since suicide is considered quite acceptable by many. France and Belgium (largely Catholic) have recently seen increases strong enough to make them local issues socially. The causes are controversial.

***Jonesy55*** · February 10th, 2012, 09:43 PM

I have heard it said that in countries with a strong taboo against suicide official records are often likely to say 'slipped and fell off the balcony' rather than 'committed suicide by jumping' to preserve the feelings if the family as it is often considered shameful...

SydneyCity · February 11th, 2012, 05:09 AM

Australia is 9.7/100,000, which is lower than the USA but higher than the UK. For Aboriginal Australians, it is closer to 30/100,000.

aaabbbccc · February 12th, 2012, 01:21 PM

I was reading an article in a Moroccan Newspaper and saw it on a documentary TV show as well
Suicide is a growing problem but not an epidemic yet , in one week there were 7 cases of suicide in Morocco and in one month there were 28 cases based on the news article . Most of them are Cops , wealthy business men , and young girls , some were older people , the most common method , shooting themselves and pills
Although in Morocco you can face up to 5 years in prison for such act , the ones that failed to kill themselves got help and did not get punished for their actions and I am glad that they got help . None of them as far as I know were charged with attempted suicide , there were even some non moroccans in that category , they also got some help. I will try to get a source for the suicide rate in Morocco , I know it is relatively low but still it is a concern , since it is growing problem there

Copperknickers · February 12th, 2012, 07:51 PM

Sorry, but the idea that developed countries have high suicide rates is ridiculous. The only reason why this is so is that developing countries do not log them correctly. It is estimated that 54% of all suicides take place in China and India, though they only have about 2/3 of the world's population, together. In fact, the pressure of life in developing countries is much greater: most suicides there take place due to financial problems, failure in exams and failure to live up to the expectations of parents and grandparents. It's much less in developed countries about lifestyle, more about loneliness and social problems indirectly associated with work or not connected at all.

Prythen · February 13th, 2012, 12:01 AM

Well, in the map shown on Wikipedia (2004

), it says, less than 3/100 000 for Morocco.

aaabbbccc · February 13th, 2012, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prythen

Well, in the map shown on Wikipedia (2004

), it says, less than 3/100 000 for Morocco.

that is 2004 , but recently it has increased , nothing major yet as I said before but it is a concern

Prythen · February 13th, 2012, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaabbbccc

that is 2004 , but recently it has increased , nothing major yet as I said before but it is a concern

Ok.
I wonder if they did another study on that

February 10th, 2012, 05:40 PM	#22
*Jonesy55* Mooderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Shrewsbury, Salopia Posts: 12,409 Likes (Received): 736	UK suicide stats for 2010 were published recently. Key points Overall rate, 11.1 per 100,000 adults. About 8 times higher than the homicide rate.... In 2010 there were 5,608 suicides in people aged 15 years and over in the UK, 67 fewer than the 5,675 recorded in 2009 There were 4,231 suicides among men in 2010 (17.0 per 100,000 population) In women there were 1,377 suicides in 2010 (5.3 per 100,000 population) In 2010 suicide rates were highest in those aged 45-74 at 17.7 per 100,000 for men and 6.0 per 100,000 for women There were big reductions in the suicide rate during the 80s and 90s but the trend has been flat over the past few years. http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/subnat...-bulletin.html __________________ *OFFICIAL* Shrewsbury Developments Thread Jonesy's travels Croatia, South Dalmatian Coast Montenegro - Mostar, Bosnia-Hercegovina SHREWSBURY - Shropshire - Manchester

February 10th, 2012, 09:43 PM	#24
*Jonesy55* Mooderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Shrewsbury, Salopia Posts: 12,409 Likes (Received): 736	I have heard it said that in countries with a strong taboo against suicide official records are often likely to say 'slipped and fell off the balcony' rather than 'committed suicide by jumping' to preserve the feelings if the family as it is often considered shameful... __________________ *OFFICIAL* Shrewsbury Developments Thread Jonesy's travels Croatia, South Dalmatian Coast Montenegro - Mostar, Bosnia-Hercegovina SHREWSBURY - Shropshire - Manchester

February 11th, 2012, 05:09 AM	#25
SydneyCity Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,191 Likes (Received): 33	Australia is 9.7/100,000, which is lower than the USA but higher than the UK. For Aboriginal Australians, it is closer to 30/100,000. __________________ Say yes to Barangaroo, the Sydney Metro and the East Coast HSR.

February 12th, 2012, 01:21 PM	#26
aaabbbccc Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ORLANDO / CASABLANCA/ SAN JUAN Posts: 3,165 Likes (Received): 17	I was reading an article in a Moroccan Newspaper and saw it on a documentary TV show as well Suicide is a growing problem but not an epidemic yet , in one week there were 7 cases of suicide in Morocco and in one month there were 28 cases based on the news article . Most of them are Cops , wealthy business men , and young girls , some were older people , the most common method , shooting themselves and pills Although in Morocco you can face up to 5 years in prison for such act , the ones that failed to kill themselves got help and did not get punished for their actions and I am glad that they got help . None of them as far as I know were charged with attempted suicide , there were even some non moroccans in that category , they also got some help. I will try to get a source for the suicide rate in Morocco , I know it is relatively low but still it is a concern , since it is growing problem there __________________ I HAVE VISITED THE UNITED STATES , CANADA , MEXICO , PUERTO RICO , MOROCCO , FRANCE , SPAIN , ITALY , ISRAEL , KUWAIT , TUNISIA , COSTA RICA AND EGYPT AND I AM PROUD TO BE MOROCCAN , FRENCH AND PUERTO RICAN

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February 10th, 2012, 06:25 AM	#21
fbeavis Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 131 Likes (Received): 8	Suicide is considered a grave sin in the Abrahamic religions (Xtianity, Islam, and Judaism) That's why the suicide rate is low in religious countries such as Brasil, the Philippines, or just about any Islamic nation.

February 10th, 2012, 09:31 PM	#23
pesto Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,159 Likes (Received): 26	A couple of thoughts. The main reason that that developing countries are low is that people die at younger ages, record keeping is poor and administrative accuracy doubtful. The "Ibrahimic countries" theory doesn't seem to work very well since it would include Eastern Europe, which is at the very top. There is probably also some doubt about the "low" suicide levels as well since countries with religious influence over the govt. will get pressure to underreport. The highest rates are NOT among developed countries; as mentioned above, they are among Eastern European countries. The presumed reasons are lack of a strong cultural ethic against suicide and lack of hope due to authoritarian govts. and weak economies. Japan has always been high, since suicide is considered quite acceptable by many. France and Belgium (largely Catholic) have recently seen increases strong enough to make them local issues socially. The causes are controversial.

February 12th, 2012, 07:51 PM	#27
Copperknickers Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 154 Likes (Received): 2	Sorry, but the idea that developed countries have high suicide rates is ridiculous. The only reason why this is so is that developing countries do not log them correctly. It is estimated that 54% of all suicides take place in China and India, though they only have about 2/3 of the world's population, together. In fact, the pressure of life in developing countries is much greater: most suicides there take place due to financial problems, failure in exams and failure to live up to the expectations of parents and grandparents. It's much less in developed countries about lifestyle, more about loneliness and social problems indirectly associated with work or not connected at all.

February 13th, 2012, 12:01 AM	#28
Prythen Custom User Title n°27 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Perpignan • Montpellier • Tangiers Posts: 654 Likes (Received): 6	Well, in the map shown on Wikipedia (2004 ), it says, less than 3/100 000 for Morocco.