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Old February 7th, 2012, 08:57 PM   #161
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As for the burning water, what "Gasland" doesn't tell you is that the water in many of these areas was naturally high in methane before drilling began, it's just that no one thought of trying to burn it before the fracking began. That said, read my reply above about what Glowrock said.
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Before oil was first exploited, it often bubbled up in creeks, along with naturally occurring gases and sediments.
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Old February 8th, 2012, 05:45 AM   #162
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Before mountaintop removal strip mining, hills & mountains would slowly erode into the nearby valleys. It's basically the same thing.
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Old February 9th, 2012, 12:18 AM   #163
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lol!

Walmart Is Tired Of All These North Dakota Oil Workers Sleeping In Its Parking Lot
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Old February 9th, 2012, 07:40 PM   #164
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Old February 17th, 2012, 05:29 AM   #165
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Here's what Glowrock (who works in the industry) had to say in response to an article that EPA regulations would shut down fracing. Sounds reasonable to me:
The following study confirms what glowrock said in my quote on the previous page:

It's not fracking's fault, study says
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Hydraulic fracturing involves drilling deep into shale beds, then injecting water, sand and chemicals under high pressure to shatter layers of rock — liberating trapped pockets of natural gas. The gas is captured for energy use, but the water and other byproducts have to be cleaned up. The procedure has been used since the 1950s, but it's become far more widely applied in recent years due to advances in horizontal-drilling technologies.

The researchers concluded that many of the reports of contamination can be traced to above-ground spills or other mishandling of the wastewater, Groat said. Other causes of the contamination include underground casing failures or poor cement jobs. "These problems are not unique to hydraulic fracturing," Groat said in a news release.
In other news, thanks to the oil in this new discovery in Ohio, as well as the one in North Dakota and similar ones in Oklahoma and elsewhere in the middle of the country, the Midwest is almost certain to be The Place To Be for (relatively) inexpensive gasoline for at least the next several years:
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U.S. Midwest crude oil supply growth of nearly 100% or 808,000 barrels per day (b/d), combined with inadequate demand growth, will result in oversupply, transportation constraints and deeply depressed prices in the region.
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Old February 19th, 2012, 05:06 AM   #166
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Guess what folks? It looks like we might have another one of these in the Midwest - this time in SE Illinois, SW Indiana and NW Kentucky:

Leasing frenzy suggests two Illinois counties on verge of oil boom

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Unfortunately, the only "big" city that might benefit from this is ... Evansville. Meh.

EDIT: I was just reading Devon's Q4 2011 earnings transcript and they've got a "stealth" play which they're amassing acreage in - plans to get 300K to 500K acres leased. Let's wait and see if I guess right and it's Devon who's leasing this acreage in Illinois.

Maybe I'll eventually turn this into a 'Midwest Oil Boom' thread.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 06:23 PM   #167
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That area is also part of the most seismically active area in the united states east of the rockies...

I wouldnt be so quick to destabilize that situation, after Ohio's rash of fracking related earthquakes this past year. Even Indiana has seen a couple quakes recently because of unattended 1900's era Tipton Till Plain Gas chambers collapsing in on themselves due to depressurization.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 07:21 PM   #168
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You do have a point, though the area in Illinois in the article seems to be at the northern (and less dangerous) part of the seismically-active area.

I suppose if they start drilling down toward the Kentucky part of the shale they'll have to be a lot more careful.

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Old February 24th, 2012, 05:11 AM   #169
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This is starting to border on the unreal.

According to Continental Resources, the amount of in-place oil in the Bakken shale and associated Three Forks formation now stands at ....

..... *drum roll * .... *trumpets* ......

900 billion barrels!!

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Thank you, Harold, and good morning, everyone. As you may recall, Continental acquired 6 cores of the entire Three Forks formation in 2011 and discovered there were up to 3 additional layers where benches of low bearing dolomite within the lower Three Forks formation. The significance of this discovery, and what makes us such a game changer, as Harold mentioned is, that the volume of oil in place for the field, almost doubles with this added reservoirs.

Based on our estimates, the oil in place now stands at around 900 billion barrels of oil versus our previous estimate of 577 billion barrels of oil.
This in turn, should ultimately translate into more technically recoverable reserves for the field. Just how much more remains to be seen, but we have taken the first step to demonstrate through the bid that the second bench of the Three Forks is a commercial reservoir.
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Some good articles on the boom in Williston in today's Business Insider.

Even With Zero Experience There's A Place You Can Instantly Find A Job Paying $120,000
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There are stories from Williston, North Dakota oil workers that are as hard to believe as they are entirely true.
I heard of one man who stood up in McDonald's one morning, hollered to whoever would listen, that "Today is the day I'm finding a job."

Within minutes he had the number of a guy looking for construction workers and was told to be back at McDonald's the following morning at 7:00 a.m. to start work.

Starting salaries for drivers, rig workers, and many other positions start at $120,000, but that can be up to 100 hours a week. One guy who worked wire line said he expected to make $300,000 this year. He'd made $30,000 over 10 days last month alone.
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You've Never Seen Anything Like The Town In The Middle Of The North Dakota Oil Boom
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Old March 9th, 2012, 10:46 PM   #171
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http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...oom/52053236/1

http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/05/news...port/index.htm

We're producing more than we're using.

Our fuel prices are still much higher than other fuel exporters though.
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Old March 11th, 2012, 08:01 AM   #172
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We're not a net exporter of crude oil - not by a long shot. Notice it says:
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It's producing more crude oil and, for the first time in decades, has become a net exporter of petroleum products such as jet fuel, heating oil and gasoline
It says "petroleum products" - not petroleum. We still import waaay more petroleum than we export. Here's the actual data (for December) to put it in perspective:
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_sum_crdsnd_k_m.htm
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Domestic production of crude oil was 182,188,000 barrels
Imports of crude oil were 270,188,000 barrels
Exports of crude oil were 1,646,000 barrels

Refined products gets more complicated, but here again is the data for December:
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_sum_...mbbl_m_cur.htm
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Total refinery production of refined products was 571,411,000 barrels
Imports of refined products were 22,706,000 barrels
Exports of refined products were 95,051,000 barrels
Domestic consumption ("product supplied") of refined products were 499,932,000 barrels

As you can see, imports and exports of refined products are a relatively small part of the overall picture. The lion's share of our domestic crude oil production and imports goes toward domestic consumption.

We would bascially have to nearly triple our domestic production of crude oil in order to completely displace imports, given current levels of consumption. That would be a fantastically difficult thing to do.
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 08:13 AM   #173
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This stuff about the man camps and people sleeping in the backs of their vans is really starting to make the press big-time. Here's a 5-page article on it in the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/22/yo...1&ref=business

At least they're making good money.
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I work for a large package delivery company and we are really struggling to keep people with the company. Before the oil we paid a pretty high wage (approx. $28/hr for drivers) plus overtime. Now we are having to pay the same wages plus weekly bonuses of a couple hundred just for showing up to work 5 days in a week, just so that we can retain the people that haven't left yet. I've heard the McDonald's up there is paying around $15/hr starting wages just to get people to show up. Crazy.
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This is starting to border on the unreal.

According to Continental Resources, the amount of in-place oil in the Bakken shale and associated Three Forks formation now stands at ....

..... *drum roll * .... *trumpets* ......

900 billion barrels!!

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Everywhere else in this thread the estimates have been from 5 billion - around 30 billion. How did it all of a sudden grow to 900 billion? I think your calculations are off
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Everywhere else in this thread the estimates have been from 5 billion - around 30 billion. How did it all of a sudden grow to 900 billion? I think your calculations are off
900 billion is the total amount of oil in the formation. 5 billion - 30 billion would be the estimates of how much of the 900 billion they think they can eventually recover.
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900 billion is the total amount of oil in the formation. 5 billion - 30 billion would be the estimates of how much of the 900 billion they think they can eventually recover.
Interesting, thanks

In comparison, do you know how many barrels of oil the province of Alberta, Canada produces per day?
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Interesting, thanks

In comparison, do you know how many barrels of oil the province of Alberta, Canada produces per day?
Not sure. 1.5 million barrels/day? 2 million barrels/day? That's just a guess.
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New map of where the dry gas, wet gas and oil areas are located. Subject to yet more change as they drill more wells.



With shale, there’s lots at ‘play’
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Ohio geologists continue to redraw the maps highlighting where the Utica shale is expected to yield the most oil and gas across the state.

The newest map by the Ohio Geological Survey excludes some areas that had been in “play” and includes others that had been left out of the “fracking” boom.

At stake is the potential for landowners to cash in on oil and gas drilling. Energy companies are offering bonuses that exceed $5,000 an acre in some areas.

There’s Utica shale beneath most of Ohio, but for drilling companies it’s all about the “play,” the core area where the shale is deemed most likely to yield a lot of natural gas, propane, butane, ethane and oil.

The newest map from the Ohio Geological Survey shows a potential oil reservoir in portions of Delaware, Marion and Union counties.

In southeastern Ohio, Athens, Meigs and portions of Morgan and Washington counties are no longer in the play. Most of Cuyahoga, Lake and Lorain counties in northeastern Ohio also now are excluded.
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