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I heard on the radio yesterday that the recent strange earthquakes in NE Ohio were caused by the fracking. I'm a little sceptical - although it does seem to make some sense considering there hadn't been hardly any earthquakes in the area for decades - and now there have been a couple just over the past year or so -- just as more and more fracking is starting to occur.
Have you seen the videos where people living in areas where fracking is occurring are using cigarette lighters to light the "water" that comes out of their home faucets? Seems pretty concerning to me. I hope NE Ohio can see some great economic benefit from these oil reserves -- but I hope it doesn't cause an environmental castrophe at the same time. |
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Those earthquakes weren't caused by fracking - they were all centered around 5 injection wells in the Youngstown area owned by the same company. These are wells where they dispose of used wastewater from fracking operations, but they aren't production wells, and they weren't drilled with fracking. Basically they're pits thousands of feet deep they use to dump junk water in. These 5 particular wells seem to have the misfortune of being located near a fault. There are hundreds of other similar wells in Ohio which don't have any problems.
As for the burning water, what "Gasland" doesn't tell you is that the water in many of these areas was naturally high in methane before drilling began, it's just that no one thought of trying to burn it before the fracking began. That said, read my reply above about what Glowrock said.
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It just keeps getting bigger, and bigger, and bigger ....
In what is an interesting read itself about emerging US oil plays, there is a section in this article describing what appears to be three additional oil-bearing zones in the Three Forks, which is part of the Bakken system. LINK (PDF) ^ Page 4 has a section entitled "Three Forks 2, 3, 4". Quote:
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![]() ND oil production exceeds 500,000 barrels daily Quote:
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Getting harder to ignore...
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Gas and oil drilling creates government jobs too!
Or at least, lots of overtime. ![]() Gas and oil drilling a boom for Steubenville, and a draw for Gov. Kasich Quote:
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Before oil was first exploited, it often bubbled up in creeks, along with naturally occurring gases and sediments.
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Before mountaintop removal strip mining, hills & mountains would slowly erode into the nearby valleys. It's basically the same thing.
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It's not fracking's fault, study says Quote:
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Guess what folks? It looks like we might have another one of these in the Midwest - this time in SE Illinois, SW Indiana and NW Kentucky:
Leasing frenzy suggests two Illinois counties on verge of oil boom Map: ![]() Unfortunately, the only "big" city that might benefit from this is ... Evansville. Meh. EDIT: I was just reading Devon's Q4 2011 earnings transcript and they've got a "stealth" play which they're amassing acreage in - plans to get 300K to 500K acres leased. Let's wait and see if I guess right and it's Devon who's leasing this acreage in Illinois. Maybe I'll eventually turn this into a 'Midwest Oil Boom' thread.
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That area is also part of the most seismically active area in the united states east of the rockies...I wouldnt be so quick to destabilize that situation, after Ohio's rash of fracking related earthquakes this past year. Even Indiana has seen a couple quakes recently because of unattended 1900's era Tipton Till Plain Gas chambers collapsing in on themselves due to depressurization. |
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You do have a point, though the area in Illinois in the article seems to be at the northern (and less dangerous) part of the seismically-active area. I suppose if they start drilling down toward the Kentucky part of the shale they'll have to be a lot more careful.
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This is starting to border on the unreal.
According to Continental Resources, the amount of in-place oil in the Bakken shale and associated Three Forks formation now stands at .... ..... *drum roll * .... *trumpets* ...... 900 billion barrels!! ![]() CLICKY Quote:
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Some good articles on the boom in Williston in today's Business Insider.
Even With Zero Experience There's A Place You Can Instantly Find A Job Paying $120,000 Quote:
And a photo gallery: You've Never Seen Anything Like The Town In The Middle Of The North Dakota Oil Boom
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http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...oom/52053236/1
http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/05/news...port/index.htm We're producing more than we're using. ![]() Our fuel prices are still much higher than other fuel exporters though. |
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We're not a net exporter of crude oil - not by a long shot. Notice it says:
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http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_sum_crdsnd_k_m.htm ^ Domestic production of crude oil was 182,188,000 barrels Imports of crude oil were 270,188,000 barrels Exports of crude oil were 1,646,000 barrels Refined products gets more complicated, but here again is the data for December: http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_sum_...mbbl_m_cur.htm ^ Total refinery production of refined products was 571,411,000 barrels Imports of refined products were 22,706,000 barrels Exports of refined products were 95,051,000 barrels Domestic consumption ("product supplied") of refined products were 499,932,000 barrels As you can see, imports and exports of refined products are a relatively small part of the overall picture. The lion's share of our domestic crude oil production and imports goes toward domestic consumption. We would bascially have to nearly triple our domestic production of crude oil in order to completely displace imports, given current levels of consumption. That would be a fantastically difficult thing to do.
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