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Old December 25th, 2011, 05:41 PM   #241
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Where shall Airport Line terminate in 2015?

I see that Longhua high speed railway station is already an interchange of Longhua and Huanzhong lines. How convenient is it to get everywhere in Shenzhen, considering it shall be the high speed railway terminus for some time?
In 2015(hopefully), Airport Line connects Bitou Station and Futian Station, which is the whole plan of the line in Shenzhen City. May be extended to Chang'an in Dongguan City in the future

yep..
Shenzhen North Station is a newly built transportation hub. The city government is well prepared for the newly built stuff. They are creating some transportation hubs.

in the currently operating metro system:
Buji Station: Buji Railway Station is being rebuilt, will be reopened in 2012, which is a newly built transportation hub as well. It is already an interchange station of Longgang Line and Huanzhong Line. As soon as it is opened, Shenzhen West Railway Station will be turned into a cargo station only. Buji Railway station will be a terminal of all of the normal speed train.

Futian Station: Futian Highspeed-Railway Station will be opened in 2012 or 2013, which is also already an interchange station of Longgang Line and Shekou Line and connecting with Luobao Line via the railway station. Futian Railway Station will be a stop of highspeed trains between Guangzhou and Hong Kong. It is a transportation hub...
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Old December 25th, 2011, 07:35 PM   #242
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U already now can travel only by metros between HK and Shenzhen.
What is the distance between Lo Wu and Luohu stations?
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Old December 25th, 2011, 11:28 PM   #243
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I transfered between the other branch - coming from Hongkong at LokMaChau and entering Shenzhen at Futian. U cross the border (which is like a covered bridge there) and u r at the station. It's practical no distance. It's like a regular transfer between two metro lines. I would say... maybe 200m? It feels like u were in the same building.
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Old December 26th, 2011, 08:14 AM   #244
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Does any public transport go to Guangming Station where the high speed trains stop?
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Old December 26th, 2011, 11:18 PM   #245
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What is the distance between Lo Wu and Luohu stations?
as far as two border controls

but u will need to cross the Shenzhen River.. i will say 300m?
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Old December 26th, 2011, 11:40 PM   #246
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Does any public transport go to Guangming Station where the high speed trains stop?
Due to a railway station in the very far northeastern PRC called Guangming Station already... the station in Shenzhen was named as Guangming City Station......

yep there is public transport.. there are buses and taxis running from/to the station now..
8 bus lines: B807, B836, M213, M215-M218 CIRCULAR, M336, M337, M356 & AIRPORT 5

M213 passes Longhua Station and Minle Station in Longhua Line..
M337 will terminates at Qinghu Station which is the end of Longhua Line..
M356 passes Dafen Station in Longgang Line..
AIRPORT 5 goes to Shenzhen Bao'an International Airport and where the Airport East Station is.. the end of Luobao Line...

Because this station was the last one to be added in this highspeed rail line, government hasn't planned to have an underground station here that early..

in the future (in 15 years?), metro Bao'an-Yantian Line may have a station there, connecting with the Guangming City Railway station.............
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Old December 27th, 2011, 06:46 PM   #247
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In which month of 2012 shall Shenzhen East station on Longhua-Xiamen high speed railway open, and shall any public transportation go there?
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Old December 27th, 2011, 10:53 PM   #248
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In which month of 2012 shall Shenzhen East station on Longhua-Xiamen high speed railway open, and shall any public transportation go there?
the progress of this rail is really slow in the Cantonese region.. Hokkien people is waiting for the Cantonese to catch up... government was having confidence to open it in 2012... but i will say probably in late 2013?

Shenzhen East Station hasn't started the construction yet..
in the future there will be metro Pingshan Line setting a station there...

here are two designs which were done in 2010..
two possible solutions showing how the metro line will be set up.. underground or overground...



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Old February 19th, 2012, 07:59 PM   #249
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Old February 19th, 2012, 08:43 PM   #250
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Is the Airport Line a similar concept to the Hong Kong Airport Express? I think taking the Luobao line from Airport East to town would take forever.

Edit, nevermind. It obviously is looking at the map. This is really great It's too bad the Luobao line (green) doesn't have a stop at Futian station though.

The map from Wikipedia seems different from the one above so maybe it doesn't make sense to have a stop at Futian.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...20_English.png
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Old February 20th, 2012, 05:11 AM   #251
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What's the expected travel time between the airport and Futian? Seems there aren't that many stations and I'm guessing the trip can be done in 20-25 minutes?
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Old February 21st, 2012, 02:22 AM   #252
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Is the Airport Line a similar concept to the Hong Kong Airport Express? I think taking the Luobao line from Airport East to town would take forever.

Edit, nevermind. It obviously is looking at the map. This is really great It's too bad the Luobao line (green) doesn't have a stop at Futian station though.

The map from Wikipedia seems different from the one above so maybe it doesn't make sense to have a stop at Futian.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...20_English.png
[IMG]http://i39.************/ofpoba.jpg[/IMG]
just some different ways of representing the position of stations and lines on the map :p
but some changes have been made last year ...
a big one is Chegongmiao Station became a hub with 4 lines interchanging... you may want to see the map in the the wiki chinese page coz it is more updated

Shenzhen Airport line is not really similar to HK airport express.. coz Shenzhen has more stations between the airport and city centre... which i think is a bit to much... and Shenzhen Airport line is longer than HK airport express..
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Old February 21st, 2012, 02:27 AM   #253
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What's the expected travel time between the airport and Futian? Seems there aren't that many stations and I'm guessing the trip can be done in 20-25 minutes?
the plan says 29 minutes which is just fitting in the limit of restriction - 30 minutes XD
not sure which version of map you were looking at...
the final version should be:
some stations from north - Airport T3 - Bihaiwan - Bao'an - Qianhaiwan - Nanshan - Houhai - Hongshuwan - Chegongmiao - Futian
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Old February 21st, 2012, 02:34 AM   #254
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yep, the city is still very very young.

This video pretty much sums up what the city is all about
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Old February 21st, 2012, 12:19 PM   #255
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Airport T3 - Bihaiwan - Bao'an - Qianhaiwan - Nanshan - Houhai - Hongshuwan - Chegongmiao - Futian
For an express line, I feel that there are too many redundant stations, particularly Hongshuwan, Nanshan, Baoan and Bihaiwan. They are not really needed at all for this line. Hongshuwan passengers should funnel to Houhai, Nanshan to Qianhai, and Baoan + Bihaiwan can just catch Luobao line to the airport anyway. Hongshuwan and Bihaiwan are done purely to appea$e the upper middle cla$$ living in the area, and Nanshan and Baoan are a result of district government politics.

Also, this line is supposed to eventually transform into a Guangzhou-Dongguan-Shenzhen intercity line, meaning those stations mentioned will seriously hamper the travel speed between the cities. Finally, it still takes forever for the people of Longgang to get to the airport by rail, so the north-east express line from Futian to Longgang is needed asap. At least the money saved from not building those redundant stations can be used to fund the north-east line.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 06:34 PM   #256
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I don't think i could agree more.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 11:10 PM   #257
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What is the business scheme for this airport line? For example, cost savings , improvement in efficiency and more passengers equal bonuses/profits going to management/employees?

I don't have access to the books but I am quite sure airport "express" services are not profitable.
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Old February 24th, 2012, 12:15 AM   #258
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just some different ways of representing the position of stations and lines on the map :p
but some changes have been made last year ...
a big one is Chegongmiao Station became a hub with 4 lines interchanging... you may want to see the map in the the wiki chinese page coz it is more updated

Shenzhen Airport line is not really similar to HK airport express.. coz Shenzhen has more stations between the airport and city centre... which i think is a bit to much... and Shenzhen Airport line is longer than HK airport express..
Yeah, I noticed the difference in maps shown online and even on Google maps. I guess the Hong Kong Airport Express is supposed to be more luxurious than the Shenzhen Airport Line. I took the HK Airport Express in 2010 and was very impressed. I think every city with a large airport should have a fast way to get from the airport to downtown. Shanghai's maglev almost does it.


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the plan says 29 minutes which is just fitting in the limit of restriction - 30 minutes XD
not sure which version of map you were looking at...
the final version should be:
some stations from north - Airport T3 - Bihaiwan - Bao'an - Qianhaiwan - Nanshan - Houhai - Hongshuwan - Chegongmiao - Futian
Numbers pulled from Wikipedia:
Shenzhen Luobao Line: Airport East -> Luohu 68 min, 41.04 km (25.5 mi)
Shenzhen Airport Line: Airport T3 -> Futian 29 min, 49.7 km (30.8 mi)
Hong Kong Airport Express: Airport -> Hong Kong 24 min, 35.3 km (21.9mi)

The time from the airport for the Shenzhen Airport Line looks reasonable compared to other lines. I wouldn't want to sit on a subway for over an hour to get to my destination. Hopefully they can find a way to increase the speed on the Airport Line. I'm surprised that the Airport Line is 5 miles longer than the Luobao Line, doesn't make sense.
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Old March 7th, 2012, 04:04 AM   #259
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Shenzhen Metro Line 8 Approved; May Use Low-Speed Maglev Technology

Feb 17, 2012 eChinacities.com On February 15th, the Shenzhen Metro office announced that the early plan for a Metro Line 8 had been approved by the National Development and Reform Committee (国家发改委). Shenzhen Metro is currently conducting an engineering feasibility study for the new line, which may either use maglev technology or be a conventional wheel-based track, depending on the experts' recommendations. According to the plan, the Metro Line 8 will run about 30.4 km and have 17 stations, which will connect the Luohu District with Yantian District's Shatoujiao, Yantiangang (盐田港区), Dameisha and Xiaomeisha (大小梅沙片区) areas. Construction on the Metro Line 8 will not begin this year. If the Line 8 uses maglev technology, it will not be the same as Shanghai's high-speed maglev train – it will operate at a lower speed of about 80 km per hour, making it more suitable for sightseeing.

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Waiting Time Between Trains Decreased on Longhua Metro Line

Mar 06, 2012 eChinacities.com Noticed something different about Shenzhen's Longhua Metro Line? Since March 1st, the interval time between arriving trains was decreased during evening rush hour (17:30-20:00) from 4.25 minutes to 3.75 minutes. And that's not all; plans are under way to increase the number of trains operating on the line to 24 to further increase efficiency during rush hour commutes. It's also hoped that by the end of March, interval time will be further decreased to 3 minutes between each train.

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