Official Midland Metro Thread - Page 19

Qoasis777 · February 18th, 2012, 01:24 PM

There are now signs hanging on the hoardings on Stephenson Street saying "works being carried out to bring Metro to the heart of the city".

Where's EllBrown when you need him...

Qoasis777 · February 18th, 2012, 02:18 PM

Its either Balfour Beatty, Morgan SIndall or Thomas Vale apparently for the extension works

http://www.rail.co/2012/02/17/fundin...nsion-approved

Nacho · February 18th, 2012, 05:55 PM

For those who are not familiar with the stops between Snow Hill and Wolverhampton .The West Bromwich area is really well served with a total of eight stops (Hawthorns to Black Lake) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj_zJ5BwhAc

adamdalziel · February 18th, 2012, 09:42 PM

So some of the Man lines are 12 minutely. Perhaps we're not behind at all then if you consider similar frequency rail services such as the Selly Oak line.

Qoasis777 · February 18th, 2012, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamdalziel

So some of the Man lines are 12 minutely. Perhaps we're not behind at all then if you consider similar frequency rail services such as the Selly Oak line.

Exactly. Birmingham needed heavy rail on the cross city line - metro simply wouldn't have had the capacity

morestoreysplease · February 18th, 2012, 11:56 PM

That's a good perspective Q777 - our local rail services are pretty extensive. The Moseley and Fort lines would give us a brilliant service all round with just places like Harborne being without some rail / tram link.

Engels · February 19th, 2012, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamdalziel

So some of the Man lines are 12 minutely. Perhaps we're not behind at all then if you consider similar frequency rail services such as the Selly Oak line.

10 minutely even, on the cross city line and on the jewelry line

Sandblast · February 19th, 2012, 01:48 AM

Have the stops between Snow Hill and New Street been finalised?

ReissOmari · February 19th, 2012, 01:52 AM

EDIT: Read it wrong, my mistake.

traffordboy · February 20th, 2012, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamdalziel

So some of the Man lines are 12 minutely. Perhaps we're not behind at all then if you consider similar frequency rail services such as the Selly Oak line.

Altrincham-Piccadilly-Bury line on Manchester Metrolink is 10 trams per hour (every 6 mins). The South Manchester Line (Chorlton) is due to go 6 mins once the new signalling works!!!

There is no published timetable for Metrolink. It is a turn up and wait system!

Qoasis777 · February 20th, 2012, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by traffordboy

Altrincham-Piccadilly-Bury line on Manchester Metrolink is 10 trams per hour (every 6 mins). The South Manchester Line (Chorlton) is due to go 6 mins once the new signalling works!!!

There is no published timetable for Metrolink. It is a turn up and wait system!

Yes that is true I stand corrected. I was trying to point out though that presumably the main reason metrolink was instigated was a lack of local heavy rail (or replacement of low frequency trains with high frequency trams)

The same cannot be said of Birmingham. Think of pretty much any suburb of the city and it is served with heavy rail as I have stated. Many routes six trains per hour which is as you say turn up and go.

There are some notable exceptions such as harbourne and moseley.

The reason Birmingham needs metro is to plug the gaps mentioned above and because of an over reliance on buses. The roads are clogged up with them when trams would mean increased capacity and therefore less vehicles.

I do think metrolink is a tremendous system by the way.

Nacho · February 21st, 2012, 07:27 PM

A mention of the Dudley Metro in the following article :

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2...d-museum-link/

metrogogo · February 25th, 2012, 02:41 AM

Prior to starting construction of Midland Metro line 1 Centro issued a newsletter to residents and businesses along the route to keep them informed of how it will progress and what effects it might have. I think most people here will not have seen these before so starting with issue 1 of Track Record going back to Christmas 1995.

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Nacho · February 25th, 2012, 12:31 PM

Thanks a lot for uploading that Metrogogo ; I hadn't seen it before .I notice that in some cases the change in the stop names: Hill Top for Black Lake and Leabrook Rd for Wednesdury Parkway for example .Ironically , some residents who live in the Hill Top area (close to the tunnel) campaigned quite hard not to have station by their houses .Now they are campaigning to get a stop after seeing the benfits that the Metro can bring .

I've managed to find an article about it :

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2...given-the-nod/

metrogogo · February 25th, 2012, 02:56 PM

Thanks for the link Nacho, Hill top tram stop was originally planed to be located the the other side of hill top tunnel, maybe funding can be found from the extension as i believe all the platforms along the route need to be extended to accommodate the urbos3 trams. Another name change I always thought strange was Monemore Green to Preistfield, surely everyone knows Monemor Green dog racing stadium?

daumal · February 25th, 2012, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nacho

A mention of the Dudley Metro in the following article :

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2...d-museum-link/

That's infuriating - why would they not include a link to a larger version of those plans? I'm having a look around but can't find anything so far - anyone else having any luck?

Typhoon2000 · February 25th, 2012, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nacho

Thanks a lot for uploading that Metrogogo ; I hadn't seen it before .I notice that in some cases the change in the stop names: Hill Top for Black Lake and Leabrook Rd for Wednesdury Parkway for example .Ironically , some residents who live in the Hill Top area (close to the tunnel) campaigned quite hard not to have station by their houses .Now they are campaigning to get a stop after seeing the benfits that the Metro can bring .

I've managed to find an article about it :

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2...given-the-nod/

I had this same conversation ages ago with someone with regards to huge opposition around the Cov road area many years ago.

I can understand to a certain extent the concerns along Hagley Road but again, the benefits of trams vs. buses outweighs the problems, yet people were coming up with all sorts of bizarre excuses as to why it shouldn't be allowed to go ahead as well as the usual I don't want the front of my land CPO'd. Crikey, most of it is office space!

Nacho · February 28th, 2012, 10:25 PM

Not new, but followers of this thread may not have seen this snippet of Central News in November :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGFwT...eature=related

Nacho · March 2nd, 2012, 06:09 PM

Here is a piece from Cental News from two weeks ago ; it's worth seeing if only for the conclusions drawn at the end :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhzlv...eature=related

While we're at it , here is a funky Metro video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR8yeMktgN0

metrogogo · March 5th, 2012, 12:42 AM

Issue 2 Metro Track Record. Sorry about the quality of this newsletter, they sent me a fhoto copy so I must of been last on there mailing list.

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February 18th, 2012, 11:56 PM	#366
morestoreysplease Brummie Angeleno Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Birmingham UK, Los Angeles CA Posts: 6,664 Likes (Received): 19	That's a good perspective Q777 - our local rail services are pretty extensive. The Moseley and Fort lines would give us a brilliant service all round with just places like Harborne being without some rail / tram link. __________________ Birmingham - TheBigCityPlan.

February 19th, 2012, 01:52 AM	#369
ReissOmari Birmingham - #1 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham Posts: 4,929 Likes (Received): 53	EDIT: Read it wrong, my mistake. __________________ ReissOmari.. flickr flickr2

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metrogogo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: BIRMINGHAM Posts: 205 Likes (Received): 33	Issue 2 Metro Track Record. Sorry about the quality of this newsletter, they sent me a fhoto copy so I must of been last on there mailing list. image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr

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February 18th, 2012, 01:24 PM	#361
Qoasis777 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 622 Likes (Received): 10	There are now signs hanging on the hoardings on Stephenson Street saying "works being carried out to bring Metro to the heart of the city". Where's EllBrown when you need him...

February 18th, 2012, 02:18 PM	#362
Qoasis777 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 622 Likes (Received): 10	Its either Balfour Beatty, Morgan SIndall or Thomas Vale apparently for the extension works http://www.rail.co/2012/02/17/fundin...nsion-approved

February 18th, 2012, 05:55 PM	#363
Nacho Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,674 Likes (Received): 5	For those who are not familiar with the stops between Snow Hill and Wolverhampton .The West Bromwich area is really well served with a total of eight stops (Hawthorns to Black Lake) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj_zJ5BwhAc

February 18th, 2012, 09:42 PM	#364
adamdalziel Adam Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 563 Likes (Received): 4	So some of the Man lines are 12 minutely. Perhaps we're not behind at all then if you consider similar frequency rail services such as the Selly Oak line.

February 19th, 2012, 01:48 AM	#368
Sandblast Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: BIRMINGHAM ... in exile in the wilderness of rural Gloucestershire Posts: 2,863 Likes (Received): 2	Have the stops between Snow Hill and New Street been finalised?

February 21st, 2012, 07:27 PM	#372
Nacho Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,674 Likes (Received): 5	A mention of the Dudley Metro in the following article : http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2...d-museum-link/

February 25th, 2012, 02:41 AM	#373
metrogogo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: BIRMINGHAM Posts: 205 Likes (Received): 33	Prior to starting construction of Midland Metro line 1 Centro issued a newsletter to residents and businesses along the route to keep them informed of how it will progress and what effects it might have. I think most people here will not have seen these before so starting with issue 1 of Track Record going back to Christmas 1995. image hosted on flickr page 2/3 image hosted on flickr page 4 image hosted on flickr

February 25th, 2012, 12:31 PM	#374
Nacho Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,674 Likes (Received): 5	Thanks a lot for uploading that Metrogogo ; I hadn't seen it before .I notice that in some cases the change in the stop names: Hill Top for Black Lake and Leabrook Rd for Wednesdury Parkway for example .Ironically , some residents who live in the Hill Top area (close to the tunnel) campaigned quite hard not to have station by their houses .Now they are campaigning to get a stop after seeing the benfits that the Metro can bring . I've managed to find an article about it : http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2...given-the-nod/

February 25th, 2012, 02:56 PM	#375
metrogogo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: BIRMINGHAM Posts: 205 Likes (Received): 33	Thanks for the link Nacho, Hill top tram stop was originally planed to be located the the other side of hill top tunnel, maybe funding can be found from the extension as i believe all the platforms along the route need to be extended to accommodate the urbos3 trams. Another name change I always thought strange was Monemore Green to Preistfield, surely everyone knows Monemor Green dog racing stadium?

February 28th, 2012, 10:25 PM	#378
Nacho Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,674 Likes (Received): 5	Not new, but followers of this thread may not have seen this snippet of Central News in November : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGFwT...eature=related

March 2nd, 2012, 06:09 PM	#379
Nacho Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,674 Likes (Received): 5	Here is a piece from Cental News from two weeks ago ; it's worth seeing if only for the conclusions drawn at the end : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhzlv...eature=related While we're at it , here is a funky Metro video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR8yeMktgN0