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Brum X · February 1st, 2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by joshwebb

Looks quite bland like I wouldn't look at it twice but if it adds height to the skyline then happy days

Your obsessed with "SIZE", He he he he

Sandblast · February 1st, 2012, 08:42 PM

Not sure what I'm looking at here ... is that 'Vancouver-esque' building a redesign of Metropolitan ,,, err, sorry .... No.1 Hagley Road, or is that a new build??!

ReissOmari · February 1st, 2012, 09:37 PM

Erm, its a refurb of the tower, and a new build, if that's what you mean?

U475 Foxtrot · February 1st, 2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecological

Building's like this in prime areas cant remain as they are if nobody frigging wants them.

From what I've seen it's far from unwanted and it has a high level of occupancy. Personally I'm not keen on the makeover and after a couple of days I still think it looks like a Benidorm tower block. I'd like to see more detail but the new build in the gap between 1 and Tricorn looks interesting though.

sefton66 · February 1st, 2012, 10:59 PM

I think people need to reserve their judgement until more detailed plans come out, we've seen one render and its only outline, I'm sure the final tower design will look much better.

joshwebb · February 2nd, 2012, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brum X

Your obsessed with "SIZE", He he he he

ohh god im as bad as a woman

Ecological · February 2nd, 2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by U475 Foxtrot

From what I've seen it's far from unwanted and it has a high level of occupancy. Personally I'm not keen on the makeover and after a couple of days I still think it looks like a Benidorm tower block. I'd like to see more detail but the new build in the gap between 1 and Tricorn looks interesting though.

Not saying it's unwanted.

I'm saying the owners of the building probably feel the rental yield it's currently getting is far less than what they could achieve with money ploughed into it for a different use.

We can't blame them for that and the fact they are looking to invest millions of pounds into quite a drab area should be welcomed by all in the city.

I'm sure what ever is proposed won't be passed without making sure it's right.

Erebus555 · February 3rd, 2012, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ecological

I'm sure what ever is proposed won't be passed without making sure it's right.

Well if that great big new supermarket going up over the road is anything to go by, then I wouldn't be so sure...

Ecological · February 3rd, 2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Erebus555

Well if that great big new supermarket going up over the road is anything to go by, then I wouldn't be so sure...

Arf!!

Forgot about that.

Typhoon2000 · February 4th, 2012, 04:57 AM

again, I repeat and maintain: Madin's building isn't the problem but the area around it due to poor planning and implentation.

Nope, I like this building which, to be honest has aged quite well and all it needs is a scrub. I had no idea it was so old until I saw that Harold Baim clip of Telly Savalas describing Birmingham - you can even see Fiveways roundabout without the greenery!

sefton66 · February 20th, 2012, 01:33 PM

Some more info and a different view

View from gatecrasher
http://www.property-magazine.eu/news...y/19883/15136/

Quote:

Henderson submits planning application for No.1 Hagley Road in Birmingham

No.1 Hagley Road (1 / 2) No. 1 Hagley Road, the 140,000 sq ft, 19 storey landmark office tower, is the latest building to benefit from regeneration plans for the Five Ways area, in Birmingham. The building’s owners, Henderson Global Investors, has submitted a planning application to ensure the building’s viable future and to develop an underutilised car parking area. Local architecture practice, Associated Architects, who masterminded the Mailbox, has developed plans to ensure the building will be an icon for a future generation.

The 1970’s tower will be transformed into a bright and modern apartment block, providing up to 182 well proportioned city centre homes. Four new penthouse floors with spectacular views will add a new skyline feature at the top.

The plans also propose the development of the extensive car parking area, which at present provides a lifeless frontage to the busy Hagley Road. Here, Henderson has proposed a new building, up to 14 storeys high, to provide up to 165,000 sq ft of either hotel or student accommodation with scope for retail and leisure uses on the ground floor.

http://www.property-magazine.eu/hend...ham-19883.html

GrAfiK_248 · February 20th, 2012, 04:25 PM

"ensure the building will be an icon for a future generation" -

joshwebb · February 20th, 2012, 04:40 PM

Looks about 60m to me

sefton66 · February 20th, 2012, 04:44 PM

Actually Josh...

80.5 metres + podium(?m) for tower with 4 floor extension
47 metres + podium (?m) for new 14 storey build

not sure how tall the podium is currently I'm guessing 2-3 metres

sefton66 · February 20th, 2012, 07:19 PM

looking through the design and access statement the new build is going to be one huge hotel...

Student Accommodation (sui generis) 0-450 beds
Hotel (C1) 0-525 beds

http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/N...rod_DC_PLANAPP

joshwebb · February 20th, 2012, 07:49 PM

Ohh I thought the new build was taller?

sefton66 · February 20th, 2012, 08:22 PM

Nope max of 14 storeys which will be 47m from the top of the podium, not sure how tall the podium is though

The tower will be 80.5m with the max 4 floor extension, again from the top of the podium

Erebus555 · February 20th, 2012, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sefton66

looking through the design and access statement the new build is going to be one huge hotel...

Student Accommodation (sui generis) 0-450 beds
Hotel (C1) 0-525 beds

http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/N...rod_DC_PLANAPP

More likely it'll be student flats than a massive hotel. They're just seeing what they can get away with on site at the moment, though.

sefton66 · February 20th, 2012, 09:56 PM

totally agree I was more shocked at the number of rooms, for what looks like will be a small building really, I thought it would have had 250-300

Spread · February 21st, 2012, 09:33 AM

http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/westm...-_Daily_E-mail

No.1 Hagley Road to be converted into flats

21st February 2012

HENDERSON Global Investors is planning to redevelop its 140,000 sq ft No 1 Hagley Road office tower in Birmingham into an apartment block.

And a new 165,000 sq ft building is planned on the site of the building’s current car park, possibly to be used as a hotel.

The 19 storey No.1 Hagley Road building in the Five Ways area has been an office building since it was built in the 1970s and its current tenants include transport company National Express.

But it seems its owners foresee better prospects from a different usage of the site which fronts Five Way Island at the the top of Broad Street. Henderson has submitted a planning application to convert the building into an apartment block, providing up to 182 flats. Four new penthouse floors will add a new skyline feature at the top.

The plans also propose the development of the car parking area, which at present fronts the Hagley Road. Henderson has proposed a new building, up to 14 storeys high, to provide up to 165,000 sq ft of either hotel or student accommodation with scope for retail and leisure uses on the ground floor.
Local architecture practice, Associated Architects has worked up plans for the scheme.

Martin Payne, fund manager at Henderson Global Investors, said: “Although No.1 Hagley Road continues to provide economical office accommodation for current and potential tenants through a flexible leasing structure, we are aware of the changing needs of the business community and the local area. We want to ensure that the building will continue to be utilised to its best potential for many years to come.

“The proposals will not only give a viable long-term use to the building, but also generate the ability to greatly enhance the external appearance of this major landmark which sits in one of the key gateways to the city centre.”

February 1st, 2012, 09:37 PM	#43
ReissOmari Birmingham - #1 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham Posts: 4,926 Likes (Received): 53	Erm, its a refurb of the tower, and a new build, if that's what you mean? __________________ ReissOmari.. flickr flickr2

February 4th, 2012, 04:57 AM	#50
Typhoon2000 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Birmingham/Coventry Posts: 2,578 Likes (Received): 23	again, I repeat and maintain: Madin's building isn't the problem but the area around it due to poor planning and implentation. Nope, I like this building which, to be honest has aged quite well and all it needs is a scrub. I had no idea it was so old until I saw that Harold Baim clip of Telly Savalas describing Birmingham - you can even see Fiveways roundabout without the greenery! __________________ Call yourself an Architect?.. Listen, take my advice.. A building can ONLY come to life when there is life *around* it - not just in it.. think about it.... This is Birmingham... FORWARD!!!

February 20th, 2012, 04:40 PM	#53
joshwebb Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Birmingham, England Posts: 1,606 Likes (Received): 5	Looks about 60m to me __________________ 0121

February 20th, 2012, 07:49 PM	#56
joshwebb Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Birmingham, England Posts: 1,606 Likes (Received): 5	Ohh I thought the new build was taller? __________________ 0121

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February 1st, 2012, 08:42 PM	#42
Sandblast Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: BIRMINGHAM ... in exile in the wilderness of rural Gloucestershire Posts: 2,863 Likes (Received): 2	Not sure what I'm looking at here ... is that 'Vancouver-esque' building a redesign of Metropolitan ,,, err, sorry .... No.1 Hagley Road, or is that a new build??!

February 1st, 2012, 10:59 PM	#45
sefton66 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6,483 Likes (Received): 58	I think people need to reserve their judgement until more detailed plans come out, we've seen one render and its only outline, I'm sure the final tower design will look much better.

February 20th, 2012, 04:25 PM	#52
GrAfiK_248 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Birmingham Posts: 3,145 Likes (Received): 13	"ensure the building will be an icon for a future generation" -

February 20th, 2012, 04:44 PM	#54
sefton66 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6,483 Likes (Received): 58	Actually Josh... 80.5 metres + podium(?m) for tower with 4 floor extension 47 metres + podium (?m) for new 14 storey build not sure how tall the podium is currently I'm guessing 2-3 metres

February 20th, 2012, 07:19 PM	#55
sefton66 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6,483 Likes (Received): 58	looking through the design and access statement the new build is going to be one huge hotel... Student Accommodation (sui generis) 0-450 beds Hotel (C1) 0-525 beds http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/N...rod_DC_PLANAPP

February 20th, 2012, 08:22 PM	#57
sefton66 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6,483 Likes (Received): 58	Nope max of 14 storeys which will be 47m from the top of the podium, not sure how tall the podium is though The tower will be 80.5m with the max 4 floor extension, again from the top of the podium

February 20th, 2012, 09:56 PM	#59
sefton66 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6,483 Likes (Received): 58	totally agree I was more shocked at the number of rooms, for what looks like will be a small building really, I thought it would have had 250-300

February 21st, 2012, 09:33 AM	#60
Spread Brummie & Proud Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Birmingham Posts: 1,642 Likes (Received): 30	http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/westm...-_Daily_E-mail No.1 Hagley Road to be converted into flats 21st February 2012 HENDERSON Global Investors is planning to redevelop its 140,000 sq ft No 1 Hagley Road office tower in Birmingham into an apartment block. And a new 165,000 sq ft building is planned on the site of the building’s current car park, possibly to be used as a hotel. The 19 storey No.1 Hagley Road building in the Five Ways area has been an office building since it was built in the 1970s and its current tenants include transport company National Express. But it seems its owners foresee better prospects from a different usage of the site which fronts Five Way Island at the the top of Broad Street. Henderson has submitted a planning application to convert the building into an apartment block, providing up to 182 flats. Four new penthouse floors will add a new skyline feature at the top. The plans also propose the development of the car parking area, which at present fronts the Hagley Road. Henderson has proposed a new building, up to 14 storeys high, to provide up to 165,000 sq ft of either hotel or student accommodation with scope for retail and leisure uses on the ground floor. Local architecture practice, Associated Architects has worked up plans for the scheme. Martin Payne, fund manager at Henderson Global Investors, said: “Although No.1 Hagley Road continues to provide economical office accommodation for current and potential tenants through a flexible leasing structure, we are aware of the changing needs of the business community and the local area. We want to ensure that the building will continue to be utilised to its best potential for many years to come. “The proposals will not only give a viable long-term use to the building, but also generate the ability to greatly enhance the external appearance of this major landmark which sits in one of the key gateways to the city centre.”