NEW YORK CITY | Subway

[SydneyCity]

Platform screen doors would be impossible to implement on NYC's subway because cars of different legnths (and therefore door positions) share the same platforms.

[KingNick]

Originally Posted by Suburbanist

That is why FRA should mandate platform screen doors in any subway and commuter train in US and give a time frame (say 10 years) for the transit agencies to install them or fine/forbid the use of stations not fit with this fundamental safety device

That is bullshit. Investing a fortune just to prevent some dickheads from jumping infront of a subway car.

[Silly_Walks]

Originally Posted by KingNick

That is bullshit. Investing a fortune just to prevent some dickheads from jumping infront of a subway car.

It is NOT all jumpers.

[HARTride 2012]

Originally Posted by SydneyCity

Platform screen doors would be impossible to implement on NYC's subway because cars of different legnths (and therefore door positions) share the same platforms.

Definitely true. So many of the rolling stocks are vastly different, unlike the rolling stocks of Paris.

In Paris, there are only two designs used for the current rolling stock. Designs that are older than 1975 utilize eight doors per train car (four doors per side), while designs after 1975 utilize a six door per train car design (three doors per side).

For example, here is a 1977 stock train at a station that is already equipped with platform screen doors. This train utilizes a six door per train car configuration.

Originally Posted by Minato ku

However, in New York, I've noticed that many trains have oddball door positions and smaller car lengths (especially older models) which make it impossible to synchronize with platform screen doors. Perhaps when the MTA is able to phase out its older rolling stock, in favor of the newer stock (eight doors per train car), then platform screen doors may be considered for installation on several lines.

[MarneGator]

The MTA has earlier mentioned that it intends to standardize the B-Division fleet with 60 ft. cars, so the door problem will be a non-issue in the future; the same could be said of the A-Division when all those trains are standardized with R142-type trains.

[Axelferis]

no plan to modernize this metro within the 40 next years?
new cars?

[Nexis]

Originally Posted by Axelferis

no plan to modernize this metro within the 40 next years?
new cars?

They are , it will be done by 2025.....

[Minato ku]

NYC subway cars are not as old as many believe.
Most of the rolling stock was built after 1990.

[HARTride 2012]

Originally Posted by MarneGator

The MTA has earlier mentioned that it intends to standardize the B-Division fleet with 60 ft. cars, so the door problem will be a non-issue in the future; the same could be said of the A-Division when all those trains are standardized with R142-type trains.

Originally Posted by Minato ku

NYC subway cars are not as old as many believe.
Most of the rolling stock was built after 1990.

Interesting...

[Nexis]

Originally Posted by Minato ku

NYC subway cars are not as old as many believe.
Most of the rolling stock was built after 1990.

Actually there are some cars that go back to the 1970s , they've worked so well and rarely breakdown that replacing them isn't a top priority.

[Minato ku]

I wrote "most", not "all".
Most large and old subway systems that I know, still have rolling stock from the 70's.
In Paris, some trains from 1968 don't even have a planned replacement at this moment.
True, those trains have had a big refurbishment in the mid 2000's.

[SydneyCity]

The oldest trains in New York are the R32s introduced in 1964, the oldest trains in Paris are the MP 59s introduced in 1963, the oldest trains in London are the A60 introduced in 1961 (being progressively withdrawn) and the oldest trains in Sydney are the L, R and S Sets, introduced in 1971 (being progressively withdrawn).

[HARTride 2012]

Even then, with rolling stock that is almost 50 years old, it is a great thing if they do not break down so often.

[Woonsocket54]

The older stock is OK, but on some of those trains the gap between different cars is so large that the doors are locked (except in emergency). So if someone in your car is being annoying, you have to wait until the next stop to get away from him/her.

[Fan Railer]

Originally Posted by Woonsocket54

The older stock is OK, but on some of those trains the gap between different cars is so large that the doors are locked (except in emergency). So if someone in your car is being annoying, you have to wait until the next stop to get away from him/her.

The bulkhead doors are only locked on the 75 foot cars (R44, R46 and R68/R68A). All other cars have their end doors unlocked and you may cross between cars (although this is in violation of the regulations, and if caught, you may be fined.)

[Nexis]

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DSCN1870 by Nexis4Jersey09, on Flickr

[Nexis]

[Busfotodotnl]

This week i visited New York for the first time ever. Here are three of my videos, other will be uploaded soon.

[Busfotodotnl]

And here a new batch of videos from New York.

First, a cabview of the entire Airtrain automatic train between Jamaica Center, JFK Airport and Howard Beach.


A R32 train leaving Kingston--Throop Avenue subway station.


A Rockaway Park Shuttle leaving Beach 90th street.


An other Rockaway Park Shuttle crossing Jamaica Bay


An A service entering 181st street.


And the final one for this post, a 42nd street Shuttle at Times Square

[Woonsocket54]

NYC for the first time and you check out the Rockaway park shuttle?

Now that is what we call a real transit fan.

Bravo to you!