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Old February 23rd, 2012, 02:38 PM   #6401
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Public transport: Work on Intelligent Transport System to begin March 5


Under the ITS project, 150 road junctions in the city will get high-tech traffic signals that, using sensors and cameras, can detect the level of traffic on each side and adjust accordingly.

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Sources in TEPA and a traffic consultancy, speaking on the condition of anonymity, had some criticisms about the project. They said that the new technology would be hard to understand for most motorists in Lahore since they were unfamiliar with it. They also said that more advanced smart transport systems existed in Japan and the US and the ITS in Lahore should have been modelled on one of these. And they said that redesigning some junctions would be a more effective traffic management measure.

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That person would definitely belongs to those troll face community who are always there in the gov sector to oppose any new system which can lessen their oper ki kmai.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 05:48 PM   #6402
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 07:56 PM   #6403
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Proposed Location for New Inter City Bus Terminal (Laari Adda)

At a petition from transporters, Lahore High Court has issued a stay order against the shifting of Bus terminal from Badami Bagh to Thokar Niaz Beg. No doubt, TNB location has its own merits and demerits, but here I propose a location which is right near the heart of the city (enabling easy access for passengers), yet establishing a bus terminal there will have least adverse impacts on the city traffic.

The proposed location is situated on the Ravi bank adjacent to Motorway
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The proposed location is shown in a Yellow half circle and has an area of more or less 150 acre (more than enough for such a bus stand).

A 1.3 Km access road along already existing nalah can be constructed to provide access to passengers from "Double Sarkaan Chowk". It is the place where Gulshan Ravi Main Boulevard meets the Lahore Ring Road. Already a number of 24-hour public transport routes serve this place connecting it with current laari adda, Railway Station, Airport, TNB and Downtown Lahore city. So the apprehension of transporters regarding losing their customers in case of TNB Terminal is taken care of with proposed location.

The place has its own locational advantage. Being on Ravi bank, it is easy to provide uninterrupted water supply from the river for bus washing etc. This specific place is protected from river water by a 1 km curved embankment (originally built to protect motorway bridge ramp).

Now the best part is the usage of Motorway for inflow and outflow of the buses. Using green lines and white arrows, I have tried to display how incoming and outgoing access path can be constructed for the buses themselves. This involves building a overhead bridge over the motorway for buses coming from cities in south of Lahore and traffic going to cities in the north and west of Lahore. If flyover is not feasible then the road can be constructed under the Motorway bridge over the river. But in that case such a road will need protection from river water in case of a flood.

Transport vehicles for the cities connected via GT road (Gujranwala, Gujrat, Sialkot, Jehlum) can use Kala Shah Kaku by pass.

The transporters who have eagerness to serve passengers in Shahdara and adjoining areas can use Faiz Pur Interchange (Jaranwala Road).

For Sheikhupura and Faisalabad (non-motorway transport), sheikhupura road interchange needs to be operational (even in case of TNB terminal) otherwise an unnecessary diversion of 10 km will comprise of faizpur interchange, jaranwala road, sagian road and sheikhupura road.

This location will be much more beneficial in future, once M-4 Faisalabad Multan Motorway is constructed.

This location provides a free flow of transport vehicles as well as the city traffic. Only caution is that the access road (connecting terminal and Ring Road) must not be used by intercity transport vehicles.
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Old February 24th, 2012, 12:46 AM   #6404
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For Sheikhupura and Faisalabad (non-motorway transport), sheikhupura road interchange needs to be operational (even in case of TNB terminal) otherwise an unnecessary diversion of 10 km will comprise of faizpur interchange, jaranwala road, sagian road and sheikhupura road.
Last time I was in PK , I took this Faisalabad-Lahore Dual Carriage way and they were building another toll Plaza just before you face Motorway ramp (which is closed as of now). From what I learn the closure was a fight between Dual Carriage way authority and NLC as the cars will not be taking the exit on the Dual Carriage and the operating company was going to loose revenue. So to fix this issue, they were going to build this new toll Plaza ( I think the location is Begam Kot). Not sure what is the current status of it, but if that Toll Plaza and Motorway ramp comes operational , going and coming from Faisalabad would be very easy as you have to face crap load of traffic if you enter via Saghian or west Lahore.

I always took a turn back and enter motorway from Jaranwala exit on the other side and exit on thokar rather quickly.


PS: not a bad idea although I'm against any development which takes out agriculture land - we have already lost a lot of good agri land and we are going to suffer one day.
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Old February 25th, 2012, 10:09 PM   #6405
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Old February 26th, 2012, 03:48 PM   #6406
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it would be good if bus transit system thread is seprated
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Old February 26th, 2012, 04:09 PM   #6407
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it would be good if bus transit system thread is seprated
We can but we don't have any proper render/map/design/route of the project yet. Once we get all the details online then surely we will start a new thread and post all the information there.
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Old February 26th, 2012, 09:21 PM   #6408
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We can but we don't have any proper render/map/design/route of the project yet. Once we get all the details online then surely we will start a new thread and post all the information there.
but the work is in progress and there is not any doubt there. and there are simulations rendering the project details , available on youtube and are also refered in this thread.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 08:39 AM   #6409
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NEW BUS STAND

We have to see the future requirement of city may be for time being we face little problems. In my opinion: Thoker Nayaz Baeg is the best area for New Bus Stand. Buses want to move toward Pind directly can choose M2.The Buses want to go through Nayazi Interchange ,can go through Ring road and then the part of ring road “Band Road” then to Shahdara. No need to go on Multan Road. Toward Multan already no problem. Same for Kasur it will be no problem when it completes the ring road. Now If we see the city internal routs, as city government planning BRT on canal road it will solve the problem of that area it will link most of the main roads. Same there is also plane BRT on Multan road, so it will cover that area also.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 11:29 AM   #6410
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Nice dunno if they are using LED lights for LRR.
No, at LRR the standard halogen lights are being used.

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We have to see the future requirement of city may be for time being we face little problems. In my opinion: Thoker Nayaz Baeg is the best area for New Bus Stand. Buses want to move toward Pind directly can choose M2.The Buses want to go through Nayazi Interchange ,can go through Ring road and then the part of ring road “Band Road” then to Shahdara. No need to go on Multan Road. Toward Multan already no problem. Same for Kasur it will be no problem when it completes the ring road. Now If we see the city internal routs, as city government planning BRT on canal road it will solve the problem of that area it will link most of the main roads. Same there is also plane BRT on Multan road, so it will cover that area also.
Yes you are exactly right dude but as I earlier said that the transport mafia is too strong, they never would care for wtf is or will be planned for future. Thokar nayaz beg is the best place for a main bus terminal of Lahore. But the court has given the stay order in the favor of transport mafia against CGDL & I wonder how long this case will now remain in court and the plan of shutting down the BadamiBagh lari adda would ever be implemented or not.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 02:10 PM   #6411
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No, at LRR the standard halogen lights are being used.



Yes you are exactly right dude but as I earlier said that the transport mafia is too strong, they never would care for wtf is or will be planned for future. Thokar nayaz beg is the best place for a main bus terminal of Lahore. But the court has given the stay order in the favor of transport mafia against CGDL & I wonder how long this case will now remain in court and the plan of shutting down the BadamiBagh lari adda would ever be implemented or not.
May be you gentlemen would like to consider the approachability of the passengers as well. TNB is at the southern end of the city, with very few direct public transport rout actually going there.

My point is that a location should chosen as to reduce hassle for everyone; passengers, transporters, traffic managers etc. TNB location would cause the similar traffic Jam on Multan Road as it causes in Bakar Mandi area, affecting the flow of highway traffic.

Usage of ring road by intercity transport would cause serious disruptions on the high speed zone as their drivers/conductors are prone to stop the vehicle suddenly upon seeing a prospective passenger.

The proposed Babu Sabu location is accessible from every area of the city and several public routes run along the Bund road 24/7. this location will not cause any disruption at any location in the city or highway (provided intercity vehicles are not allowed on Ring road). Shahdra is easily served using Faizpur interchange of Motorway and Jaranwala road. for passengers of adjoining areas, TNB can still serve as supplementary pick up/ drop off point as it currently does.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 03:51 PM   #6412
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Are there any plans of building BRT on Canal Road or is it even possible?
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Old February 27th, 2012, 06:03 PM   #6413
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Are there any plans of building BRT on Canal Road or is it even possible?
Good Idea. But it will require removal of several hundreds (if not thousands) of trees
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Old February 27th, 2012, 07:14 PM   #6414
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Are there any plans of building BRT on Canal Road or is it even possible?
BRT is U/C on some part of ferozpur road only at the moment, other than ferozpur road brt is proposed for Multan road and GT road. No proposal for canal road yet.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 08:26 PM   #6415
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BRT is U/C on some part of ferozpur road only at the moment, other than ferozpur road brt is proposed for Multan road and GT road. No proposal for canal road yet.
if you can could please mark this on Google map.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 12:50 AM   #6416
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Old February 28th, 2012, 03:12 AM   #6417
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Imagine the number of workers and small industries such project attracts and feed - it's a true saying that infrastructure drives economies ! There would certainly be corruption in it or in Canal Rd. Project but they are different sort of corruption i.e. Systematic Corruption - projects awarded to some close workers. But it's still better than hoarding money in Swiss bank accounts, atleast it's feeding poor people and engineers.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 05:00 AM   #6418
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Link road given go-ahead

Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif presided over a meeting at Arfa Software Technology Park and gave approval to the construction of a link road from Ring Road to Ferozpur Road. This road will be constructed from Ring Road Package-17 to Ferozpur Road along Khairan Distributory. Shahbaz Sharif directed the departments concerned to immediately start work on this track.

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-ne...given-go-ahead
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Old February 28th, 2012, 05:45 AM   #6419
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Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif presided over a meeting at Arfa Software Technology Park and gave approval to the construction of a link road from Ring Road to Ferozpur Road. This road will be constructed from Ring Road Package-17 to Ferozpur Road along Khairan Distributory. Shahbaz Sharif directed the departments concerned to immediately start work on this track.

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-ne...given-go-ahead
I thought* there was already a intersection as LRR crossed Ferozepure Road ?

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Old February 28th, 2012, 07:50 AM   #6420
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I though there was already a intersection as LRR crossed Ferozepure Road ?
No the LRR has a dead end at the moment at P-17 near sui gas society at Kamaha road. Though there is a proposed interchange at Ferozpur road but the comes under Southern Loop, and that interchange would be a clover leaf interchange. But this would just be a link road from ferozpur road to LRR I guess.
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