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Old February 17th, 2012, 12:06 PM   #201
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Mr K H Muniyappa to be blamed for this mess

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see railway atrocity on the city What railway should do to bangalore is more railway overbridges and overbridges, not commuter rail. ROB/RUB are not present even in high traffic roads including outer ring road even if they build a ROB they build 2 lane ones..
MoS Shir K H Muniyappa is responsible for the ROB & RUB's sanction and see the progress of these as per the Railway Minister work allocation, so imagine who is to be blamed.

NH-7 expressway from NHAI project was proposed during K H Muniyappa time when he was MoS for Road Transport. He was very well aware of the Allalsandra problem. Even after taking over the ministry as MoS for Railways, what has he done to sort out the issue between SWR, NHAI & BBMP.

Even take the case with railway crossing on ORR near BEL circle to Tumkur Raod for Yesvantpur Station, tenders are called for ROB this month only valued Rs 20 crore.

Even he wants to do the foundation stone in AP and not in Karnataka side is his affilation for home state. Also take case of Chikballapur station, its under poblem where to be located and MoS is not even resolving even when MP for this consti. is from Congress.
Also what happended to Adarsh stations announced during 2010 budget for Yelahanaka, Devanahalli, Dodbalappur, Chikballapur, nothing is been done till now on these.
Opening of new tracks ready for trains to run like Nelamangala, Shravanbelagola, Harihar-Kottur, Kadur-Chikmagalur, Kolar-Chikballapur ( major portion is completed ).
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Old February 17th, 2012, 05:41 PM   #202
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Serious requirement for new trains for Bangalore transport-Railways experimented with the 06591/92/93/94 Passengers between Yeshvantapur and Hosur and have received quite a good response for the same-

Also the other thing for patronage is corresspondigly for this train another train starts from SBC namely the SBC-Salem Passenger-In return direction the newly introduced Dharmapuri-Bangalore DMU subtitutes for it and hence good crowd too

We also had some news last year when the 16535/36 gol gumbaz used to leave at 7PM from Yeshvantapur-the people of tumkur gave a petition saying the rescheduling of train after 7:30 will help them reach home comfortably-also heard from one of my friends that while the UR coaches start crowded from Yeshvantapur major crowd gets down at Tumkur--A good sign for a proper commuter train-Now this train leaves at 7:45Pm and reaches Yeshvantapur at 9:30AM making it suitable for the office goers-One more major example for this is the Chamundi Express

Also the major news again is the track from Bangalore to Ramnagar and Bangalore to Tumkur have been doubled-Yeshvantpur Yelahanka is under progress as per a video taken recently-and track towards Whitefield is also doubled-all these provide a good case for starting CRS for Bangalore
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Old February 21st, 2012, 06:06 AM   #203
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Not sure if this link from praja.in was everposted

Commuter Rail Service
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 04:22 AM   #204
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with metro phase 2 being approved demand for commuter rail is all but over. bangalore will follow delhi model where all people use metro and hardly anybody will use local trains
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 05:03 AM   #205
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They could atleast develop the bypl-banaswadi-hebbal-ypr section... That could act as a supplement to the metro
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 05:06 AM   #206
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do we need such an uncivilized mode of transport in bangalore? time has moved on for bangaloreans.

15,000 die each year crossing rail tracks in India
AP | Feb 21, 2012, 06.50PM IST

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NEW DELHI - About 15,000 people die every year trying to cross the tracks of India's mammoth rail network, a "massacre" that a government committee said was being ignored by railway authorities.

Most of the deaths occur at unmanned railroad crossings, said the report released over the weekend. About 6,000 people die on Mumbai's crowded suburban rail network alone.

Another 1,000 people die when they fall from crowded coaches, when trains collide or coaches derail, it said.

The report called on the government to urgently replace all railroad crossings with bridges or overpasses at an estimated cost of 500 billion rupees ($10 billion) over the next five years.

"No civilized society can accept such a massacre on their railway system," the report said, referring to the crossing deaths.

"Reluctance of the Indian railways to own up to the casualties, which do not fall under the purview of accidents, but are nevertheless accidents on account of trains, can by no means be ignored," the report said.

"Trespassing occurs because of lack of barricading, fencing, lack of adequate number of pedestrian overbridges and lack of facilities such as sufficient number of platforms, escalators, elevators for the disabled apart from insufficient train services. These are the main reasons for the heavy human death toll," the report said.

The committee, headed by leading scientist Anil Kakodkar, blamed railway authorities for the "grim picture," saying there were lax safety standards and poor management. Kakodkar headed India's Department of Atomic Energy before he retired last year.

The panel suggested a high-level task force be set up to implement its recommendations relating to safety and that a fee be added to every ticket to form a safety fund.
these are the words used by high level committee, not gentem
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 06:24 AM   #207
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National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) says that 1.3 lakh people died and over 4.7 lakh were injured on the country's highways and side-roads last year.
http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...s-road-crashes

Ban road transport now?
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 07:09 AM   #208
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that is private transport.. compare 6000 killed by mumbai railways to 80 killed each year by bmtc, mumbai is only triple the population but 75 times fatality
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 10:50 AM   #209
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do we need such an uncivilized mode of transport in bangalore? time has moved on for bangaloreans.


these are the words used by high level committee, not gentem
Uncivilized mode- may i know whoever said these

Its true that many rail related deaths have taken place but then the major faulters in this case would be the person who had sacrificed his life without waiting for a movement-It may be noted that unlike our road vehicles itsnt easy to stop trains all of a sudden-Also the trains move at an avg of 60kmph compared to road transport which moves at 15 kmph on average

Even if Metro comes into Commuter rail on existing tracks will still be the common man's mode of travel-even today Metro charges Rs. 15 for travel from Baiyapanhalli to MG road whereas the passenger train for Baiyappanhalli to Majestic is Rs. 2 only-and time taken for the strech is just 1/2 an hour

Metro will be required on roads where no Railway tracks exist on present-Eg: near MG orad or Ulsoor there arent nay railway tracks and connection to Baiyappanhalli through that was required-but where the tracks are existing its better the trains are run at regular intervals itself

Best example for usage of commuter train are the students of the Engg. college near Heelalgie on Hosur track-they use the morning Salem passenger to reach college and use the evening train to reach back-we know the traffic situation of hosur Road and how long it will take for the same strech by bus from majestic
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 07:10 PM   #210
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Uncivilized mode- may i know whoever said these

Its true that many rail related deaths have taken place but then the major faulters in this case would be the person who had sacrificed his life without waiting for a movement-It may be noted that unlike our road vehicles itsnt easy to stop trains all of a sudden-Also the trains move at an avg of 60kmph compared to road transport which moves at 15 kmph on average

Even if Metro comes into Commuter rail on existing tracks will still be the common man's mode of travel-even today Metro charges Rs. 15 for travel from Baiyapanhalli to MG road whereas the passenger train for Baiyappanhalli to Majestic is Rs. 2 only-and time taken for the strech is just 1/2 an hour

Metro will be required on roads where no Railway tracks exist on present-Eg: near MG orad or Ulsoor there arent nay railway tracks and connection to Baiyappanhalli through that was required-but where the tracks are existing its better the trains are run at regular intervals itself

Best example for usage of commuter train are the students of the Engg. college near Heelalgie on Hosur track-they use the morning Salem passenger to reach college and use the evening train to reach back-we know the traffic situation of hosur Road and how long it will take for the same strech by bus from majestic
Even many Techies working in whitefield use Bangarpet pass & express trains to travel between majestic and white field even though they have their monthly Volvo BMTC pass they also have a railway pass(which includes Superfast YTrains travel) for Rs 800 for 3months
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 08:42 PM   #211
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This is time table for year 1993 between Banglore-Mysore.
Observe here they used to run Hindupur-SBC pass upto Kengeri and use it to Run again from Kengeri to SBc and back to Kengeri in Eve and Return as Hindupur Pass.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 08:57 PM   #212
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Now things are moving for Commuter Rail

As the doubling of Yesvantpur - Yelahanka & Yesvantpur - Channasandra is moving at good speed on the ground, Chikbanavar - Nelamanagala line getting opened by march'2012 have major impact on the decision making of commuter rail.
Also RITES Hyderabad is ready with report for Commuter Rail for Bangalore and once presentation is made to GoK & SWR, final report will be submitted to GoK, then after that GoK to send the proposal to Railway Board for approval to setup on SPV with GoK share beeing in the range of 50 to 75 %, Railway board can not refuse the project.
Also DRM of Bangalore division Mr S Mani is experienced in MMTS operation, knows the pulse of suburban trains, he is supporting the commuter rail for bangalore. With CM, Tumkur MP Mr G Basavaraj and Bangalore Central MP Mohan already putting pressure on center to sanction the commuter rail, things will move for this project.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 09:45 AM   #213
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This is time table for year 1993 between Banglore-Mysore.
Observe here they used to run Hindupur-SBC pass upto Kengeri and use it to Run again from Kengeri to SBc and back to Kengeri in Eve and Return as Hindupur Pass.
Nice info sir

and regarding the way the doubling is progressing think some good news is seriously awaiting for Bangalore with regard commuter rail-will have to check the coming budget
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Old February 25th, 2012, 12:04 PM   #214
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IR is incurring loss for Calcutta METRO & still giving concession of 60% to students

Read the balance sheet of 323 of IR report which was released after Rail budget 2011. It shows METRO business net loss projected for 2011-12 was 241 crore and during 2010-11 it has incurred loss of 142 crore.


http://www.indianrailways.gov.in/rai...Memorandum.pdf

Still Indian Railway is pumping money to expand Calcutta METRo upto Airport & other places by spending more then 2500 crore.

If one state or city like WB or Calcutta is enjoying at the cost of other states & revenue generated, finally our tax money is used for funding of Calcutta METRO & people their enjoying, In Bangalore we strugling to get even simple Commuter Rail & spending hours on travelling daily by Bangalore citizens.

Even Eastern Railway is making huge loss and still Calcutta is getting KRVC to improve the suburban services. Now Railway board is asking 36000 crore as budgetery support. Imagine, if this is approved, which state will get the share to cover the loss.

IR should increase the fares of Calcutta METRO & comut from losses and stop taking subsidy from Indian railway so that other big cities can get some share for their suburban services.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 07:26 AM   #215
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bangalore railway map

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http://www.swr.indianrailways.gov.in...m_Map_2011.pdf

Official swr map of bangalore railway. For what sake quadrupling between city and whitefield?
Cant they make kr puram a long distance terminal where metro phase 2 will connect
state govt should not give railways an inch of land in city limits
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For what sake quadrupling between city and whitefield?
Due to the tremendous traffic between Bangalore - Chennai, Rest of TN and Kerala!!
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Old March 5th, 2012, 02:52 PM   #217
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see railway atrocity on the city What railway should do to bangalore is more railway overbridges and overbridges, not commuter rail. ROB/RUB are not present even in high traffic roads including outer ring road even if they build a ROB they build 2 lane ones..
Some updates on ROBs/RUBs

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Rly minister’s constituency has no facilities at the station

Train passengers complain of lack of sanitation and drinking water supply

Basic facilities including, drinking water and sanitation in the railway station in Malur, which is the constituency of Union Minister of State for Railways, K H Muniyappa.

The rails are stinking and sanitation is not maintained outside nor inside the rail compartments. Though rail service to Malur started more than a decade ago, the problems still persist.

Cramped space

More than 10 inter-state trains pass through the station, everyday. Still, the commuters from here do not even get place to stand. In general compartments at least 300 persons travel with difficulty.

Especially train service here has not done any good to children , women and elderly persons. Even getting into the train from this station is an adventure.

More than 10 thousand people from town and other villages of Malur, travel everyday in train. Leave alone seating facility, many do not even get place to stand.

No toilets

As many people use the toilets inside the train and there is lack of water, the whole compartment stinks. Commuters have to bear with a foul smell. This problem is very much evident in Jolarpet Express, Marikuppam and Bangalore Passenger.

Kanyakumari Express, Thirupathi Passenger, Kuppam Push-pull, Kolar Push-pull, Marikuppam Push-pull, Kakinada Express, Passenger Express, Arakonam Passenger, Chennai Express and Mysore Passenger is full everyday and commuters from Malur have to face difficulties to get in.

Though many memorandums have been submitted to the people’s representatives, requesting for additional general compartments, none have taken action.

Lone ticket counter

Everyday commuters stand in a queue from 3 am. By five in the morning there is a long queue. Thousands of people are seen rushing to get the ticket. There is a lone ticket counter and many people return without tickets as by the time they get tickets, the train would be moving. Adding to woes, there is not even a single water tap with drinking water. Toilet is also missing in the platform. Even if one tries and finds out a toilet nearby, it would be dirty and stinking.

Daily travellers have submitted memorandums, requesting to provide facilities including drinking water and additional ticket counter. But no action is taken yet.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/...cy-has-no.html

If Commuter Rail is implemented, then Malur / Bangarpet / Whitefiled will have better Train facility.
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Metropolitan Transport Projects

Railway Minister Shri Dinesh Trivedi has announced several new schemes related to Metropolitan Transport Projects in the country in the Railway Budget presented in Parliament today.


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Joka-IIM-Diamond Park Metro extension as the first leg of Joka-Mahanayak Uttam Kumar Metro link of Kolkata Metro is proposed to be taken up during the year 2012-13. Survey report for extension of metro railway from Barrackpore to Kalyani is being finalized and the work will be taken up in due course. Besides, extension of circular railway from Remount Road to Santoshpur via Garden Reach, Metiabruz has also been taken up.



To further augment rail transport services in the twin cities of Hyderabad and Secunderabad MMTS Phase II project announced in the last year Budget has been sanctioned. It is also proposed to set up a SPV with the Government of Andhra Pradesh for commercial management of MMTS.



The work on extension of MRPS from Velachery to St. Thomas Mount in Chennai is progressing smoothly and the project is likely to be commissioned next year.



Mumbai Rail Vikas Corporation (MRVC) has successfully completed its flagship project of MUTP Phase 1 costing Rs. 4,500 crore. The work on MUTP Phase II at a cost of Rs. 5,300 crore is also progressing well.



In order to address the transport needs of the Navi Mumbai area, the work will be taken up to facilitate running of 12-car rakes on Harbour line. A new double line work of Belapur-Seawood-Uran is in progress, which will provide direct passenger connectivity to JNPT.
137 Additional Sub-Urban Services for Mumbai,Chennai & Kolkata
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Minister for Railways Shri Dinesh Trivedi said with a view to further enhancing the carrying capacity of suburban services additional services are being introduced in Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata. These include 75 new services in Mumbai, 18 in Chennai and 44 in Kolkata area.

New suburban services for Kolkata include Sealdah-Ranaghat, Ranaghat-Naihati, Ranaghat-Shantipur, Ranaghat-Krishnanagar, Ranaghat-Gede, Ranaghat-Bangaon, Bangaon-Barasat, Barasat-Hasnabad, Bandel-Barddhaman, Bandel-Howrah, Bandel-Naihati, Seoraphuli-Tarkeswar, Santragachi-Bagnan, Santrgachi-Amta, Santragachi-Mecheda, Santragachi-Panskura, Howrah-Haldia, Howrah –Kharagpur and Mecheda-Degha.

It is also proposed to introduce 50 new services in Kolkata Metro in the coming year.

Addition suburban services proposed for Mumbai include Churchgate-Virar, Virar-Dahanu Road, Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus-Kalyan-Kasara and Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus –Kalyan-Karjat sections, Harbour and Trans-Harbour line.

In Chennai area, it is proposed to run 18 additional services on Chennai Beach-Tambaram, Chennai Beach-Chengalpattu, Chennai Beach-Avadi, Chennai Beach-Tiruttani, Chennai Beach-Gummiidipundi/Sullurupetta and Chennai Beach-Velachery sections.
yess yess no commuter rail for bangalore nor delhi this year too
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