ROTTERDAM - Stadion Feyenoord / de Kuip (51,577)

[Axelferis]

it' a good stadium...of the past.

21st century requires more.

I remember that a new version exist for the future no?
According to you, why?

This stadium in actual state couldn't bid for a euro championship.

[The City is Ours]

Yes it could, it would be a stadium for the 2018 World Championship. It's also the stadium with the most European finals (UEFA Cup/Champions League/European Championship) of all the stadiums in Europe, they hosted 14 (!) finals, that's unique. And it's a 5 star rating by the FIFA, now you again.

[OnceBittenTwiceShy]

The sloping roof provides for excellent acoustics. One exciting and spectacular aspect of De Kuip is the entire ground's metal construction physically vibrating when the going gets rough. I experienced a simular sensation at old Wembley, packed to the rafters.

[michał_]

Originally Posted by The City is Ours

Yes it could, it would be a stadium for the 2018 World Championship. It's also the stadium with the most European finals (UEFA Cup/Champions League/European Championship) of all the stadiums in Europe, they hosted 14 (!) finals, that's unique. And it's a 5 star rating by the FIFA, now you again.

Yes, it was on the list, but only secondary to the new stadium few hundred meters apart. So would not retain its amazing historical role.

Originally Posted by OnceBittenTwiceShy

The sloping roof provides for excellent acoustics. One exciting and spectacular aspect of De Kuip is the entire ground's metal construction physically vibrating when the going gets rough. I experienced a simular sensation at old Wembley, packed to the rafters.

I've only seen one game there and the home crowd was small, but I have a completely different view on acoustics anyway, I think it was fairly poor.

[The City is Ours]

Originally Posted by michał_

I've only seen one game there and the home crowd was small, but I have a completely different view on acoustics anyway, I think it was fairly poor.

What match did you saw? It depends if you see a game vs Ajax, PSV or Twente or if you see a game against VVV Venlo. But that's everywhere.

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[OnceBittenTwiceShy]

Originally Posted by michał_

I've only seen one game there and the home crowd was small, but I have a completely different view on acoustics anyway, I think it was fairly poor.

The atmosphere in De Kuip ranges from subdued to ecstatic. The roof comes of during high-profile clashes.

I realise Old Trafford occasionally conjures up visions of pandemonium but during my three visits there it was more like a panopticum.

Same goes for Cairo Stadium. A cauldron of hate when Al Ahy and Zamalek meet; a tea-party for the prawn sandwich brigade when the stadium is transformed into a middle-class theatre when the national team pops up.

[michał_]

Originally Posted by The City is Ours

What match did you saw? It depends if you see a game vs Ajax, PSV or Twente or if you see a game against VVV Venlo. But that's everywhere.

I would not say that's everywhere. I watched a rather low-profile game for Feyenoord as it was a group game against Wisla Krk in the UEFA Cup, which for them was of minor importance apparently, especially that the club was said to be in an internal conflict back then. Nevertheless, I'm at least happy to say that where I go to watch football here in Poland, I witnessed maybe one or two poor games in terms of atmosphere over a decade, whether it was a national or international hit game, or a reserve-squad lowest profile clash against a team I wouldn't care to know.

To me Feyenoord is far overpromoted in terms of atmosphere, though I would not question the popularity and fanbase of this club, just the fan behaviour inside the ground, of course apart from Ajax/PSV/Twente games apparently. Still a lot better than Man Utd to my knowledge

[SASH]

I have been to Feyenoord's match against Wisla. As you have already indicated, the opponent with all the respect was of minor importance to us. Our support is not comparable with yours. We do not sing and jump for 90 minutes, but we anticipate with what happens on the field. At the moment that the team needs our support, we will give our team the extra impulse they need. I personally find this much nicer than singing and a drumming for 90 minutes, no matter what happens on the Field. Moreover, we hate those idiots with their drums!

[The City is Ours]

De Kuip during Feyenoord Rotterdam - FC Utrecht, 11-03-2012.

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[The City is Ours]

De Kuip, picture is from FRFC1908.nl

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[EPA001]

The blue light was especially done for the celebration of 75 years De Kuip which was celebrated before the Feyenoord - NAC Breda game (3-1). They will be removed later this month.

It is expected that within 8 years or so at the latest, but hopefully sooner, a new stadium will be built. Part of the funding is already in place, but still some crucial parts of the puzzel are missing. But hopefully there will be more clarification on those within the next 12 months.

[skaP187]

Originally Posted by The City is Ours

De Kuip, picture is from FRFC1908.nl

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75 years and still looking good! Superb design.

[b5254]

Will de Kuip be demolished when the new arena is getting built?

[skaP187]

Originally Posted by The City is Ours

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Nothing is sure yet, that´s the most important. Do they need a new stadium yes. Can they fill a 65 000 cap stadium proparly, yes I th¡nk they can, maybe even 75 k.
Will they build it the next 20 years? probably, but as said, nothing is sure and they´d better be carefull with the beauty they´ve got now.

[The City is Ours]

Made this two pictures more then a week ago (06-05-2012):

[Maartendev]

Originally Posted by b5254

Will de Kuip be demolished when the new arena is getting built?

There is some discussion about that, i think it is considered as a monument and that it is not allowed to be torned down but i am not sure.

The construction is made out of a lot of steel, in 1941 there was even a threat to tear down the stadium because the Germans that occupied the Netherlands needed the steel for the war. But this luckily never happened.

I agree though that Feyenoord deserves a new stadium but it will be really tough to create a stadium that is just as impressive as the current Kuip. The Amsterdam ArenA is nothing compared to it.

[Jim856796]

Other than the fact that the Amsterdam ArenA is more modern than De Kuip? We have to make way for modernity sooner or later.

[EPA001]

Yes we do.

New plans for a totally new stadium for Feyenoord Rotterdam are expected to be released this month or at the beginning of next month. There will be two (maybe 3) proposals from two competing teams of architects, construction companies and founders.

One of the proposals will be to build a new stadium just on the other side of road (Satdionweg) where now the training grounds are and where the amateur section of Feyenoord is based.

The other proposal will most like target a new stadium to be built in 4 phases on the current site where the current stadium resides. A possible third option would be to be a new stadium just north of the current one. But there the road on the front side (Olympiaweg) and possibly the railroad tracks are limiting factors which means that the stadium would be built on ground level +1. So this option is maybe the one which is the first to be dismissed.

No official decisions for whatever proposal by the club, stadium and the city can be expected before the end of the year. The clubs targets late December as a formal decision target but it could easily be the Spring of 2013 before decisions are taken. The financing of the stadium will be the biggest issue to overcome.

Obviously the decision taken would also impact the fate of the current stadium.

[EPA001]

Faster than expected the club and stadium have officially decided and made public to go for the option to built a new stadium just accross the road (Stadionweg/Coen Moulijnweg) on the grounds which are already owned by Feyenoord. This is where the club has their training ground and where the amateur section is housed.

The coming 3 months they will refine the details of the plan and will present it then to the City Council of Rotterdam.

No direct cash is required from the City which is very important. The stadium will be a mixture of the Allianz Arena in Munich and the Emirates Stadium of Arsenal in London.

Biggest difference is that a sliding roof has been determined necessary to make a healthy exploitation of the stadium possible. The sliding foor must be larger in size then in Amsterdam, Arnhem, Gelsenkirchen, Düsseldorf or Lille. Best example is the sliding roof of the Reliant Stadium in Houston, TX.

Capacity remains at 63.000 seats with an option to expand. New is a parking garage for at least 1,500 cars. Also the number of business units remains at a minimum of 100 where there are currently 42 very small units.

After approval the design phase will start. Only then we can expect to see some renders of how the future stadium will look like.

Building should start early 2016 at the latest. The new stadium should be ready for use at the start of the 2018-2019 season.

The current stadium will remain. Further studies on re-using the stadium, or to redevelop it where at least parts will remain, are underway. But no outcome on those is expected soon. The priority is focussed on building a new stadium.

[Alanzeh]

One of the best stadiums in my opinion, top 5
I like also Feyenoord, the shirt is coming this week!
Respect from Corinthians!