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Old February 26th, 2012, 09:56 PM   #101
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I've only seen one game there and the home crowd was small, but I have a completely different view on acoustics anyway, I think it was fairly poor.
The atmosphere in De Kuip ranges from subdued to ecstatic. The roof comes of during high-profile clashes.

I realise Old Trafford occasionally conjures up visions of pandemonium but during my three visits there it was more like a panopticum.

Same goes for Cairo Stadium. A cauldron of hate when Al Ahy and Zamalek meet; a tea-party for the prawn sandwich brigade when the stadium is transformed into a middle-class theatre when the national team pops up.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 07:10 PM   #102
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What match did you saw? It depends if you see a game vs Ajax, PSV or Twente or if you see a game against VVV Venlo. But that's everywhere.
I would not say that's everywhere. I watched a rather low-profile game for Feyenoord as it was a group game against Wisla Krk in the UEFA Cup, which for them was of minor importance apparently, especially that the club was said to be in an internal conflict back then. Nevertheless, I'm at least happy to say that where I go to watch football here in Poland, I witnessed maybe one or two poor games in terms of atmosphere over a decade, whether it was a national or international hit game, or a reserve-squad lowest profile clash against a team I wouldn't care to know.

To me Feyenoord is far overpromoted in terms of atmosphere, though I would not question the popularity and fanbase of this club, just the fan behaviour inside the ground, of course apart from Ajax/PSV/Twente games apparently. Still a lot better than Man Utd to my knowledge
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Old February 28th, 2012, 02:57 PM   #103
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I have been to Feyenoord's match against Wisla. As you have already indicated, the opponent with all the respect was of minor importance to us. Our support is not comparable with yours. We do not sing and jump for 90 minutes, but we anticipate with what happens on the field. At the moment that the team needs our support, we will give our team the extra impulse they need. I personally find this much nicer than singing and a drumming for 90 minutes, no matter what happens on the Field. Moreover, we hate those idiots with their drums!
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Old March 13th, 2012, 01:24 PM   #104
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De Kuip during Feyenoord Rotterdam - FC Utrecht, 11-03-2012.

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Old March 26th, 2012, 10:27 PM   #105
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De Kuip, picture is from FRFC1908.nl

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Old April 1st, 2012, 02:48 PM   #106
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The blue light was especially done for the celebration of 75 years De Kuip which was celebrated before the Feyenoord - NAC Breda game (3-1). They will be removed later this month.

It is expected that within 8 years or so at the latest, but hopefully sooner, a new stadium will be built. Part of the funding is already in place, but still some crucial parts of the puzzel are missing. But hopefully there will be more clarification on those within the next 12 months.
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Old April 2nd, 2012, 12:32 AM   #107
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75 years and still looking good! Superb design.
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Old April 2nd, 2012, 12:46 AM   #108
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Will de Kuip be demolished when the new arena is getting built?
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Old April 2nd, 2012, 01:08 AM   #109
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Nothing is sure yet, that´s the most important. Do they need a new stadium yes. Can they fill a 65 000 cap stadium proparly, yes I th¡nk they can, maybe even 75 k.
Will they build it the next 20 years? probably, but as said, nothing is sure and they´d better be carefull with the beauty they´ve got now.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 04:21 AM   #110
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Made this two pictures more then a week ago (06-05-2012):



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Old May 15th, 2012, 11:36 PM   #111
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Will de Kuip be demolished when the new arena is getting built?
There is some discussion about that, i think it is considered as a monument and that it is not allowed to be torned down but i am not sure.

The construction is made out of a lot of steel, in 1941 there was even a threat to tear down the stadium because the Germans that occupied the Netherlands needed the steel for the war. But this luckily never happened.

I agree though that Feyenoord deserves a new stadium but it will be really tough to create a stadium that is just as impressive as the current Kuip. The Amsterdam ArenA is nothing compared to it.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 02:37 AM   #112
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Other than the fact that the Amsterdam ArenA is more modern than De Kuip? We have to make way for modernity sooner or later.
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Old May 21st, 2012, 11:02 PM   #113
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Allegedly, this ‘development’ has entered yet another speculative stage now that, reportedly, the waterfront stadium design’ has been banned from the drawing tables.


Source: Dutch TV Rijnmond Rotterdam, brought to you by Google Translate and slightly modified:


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Two large construction companies are working separately on plans for a new De Kuip. The desire of the municipality of Rotterdam and Feyenoord to build a new stadium is thus revived.

There are two construction companies in the race to partner with other parties to create a new stadium for up to 65,000 visitors. The first builders are a consortium of BAM, Siemens and Eneco. They want to thoroughly renovate the existing stadium. During construction, which will take about 4 years, the stadium can be used.

The other major party contractor Volker Wessels are working on a new stadium on the sports fields adjacent De Kuip. Their plans provide retaining the old stadium for other sports, but the financing is not yet complete.
Please note the artist impression depicts De Kuip in its authentic roofless state:


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Old May 27th, 2012, 12:41 PM   #114
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When can we expect the First designs?
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Old July 1st, 2012, 07:42 PM   #115
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When will this project be aproved,is there any information about this project.Or this is just a piece of computer work that was once on the move,but not anymore.?
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Old July 1st, 2012, 10:17 PM   #116
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Apparently renovating De Kuip has become an option now as well (and we were led to believe that it was simply too old and in too dire state to make this a viable option). Proposed capacity of the new stadium had already been downgraded to 68,000.
And well it should be downgraded. It would be idiotic for a team that averages about 40k per game the last 10 seasons to try to fill up anything more than a 60k stadium. It makes absolutely no economic sense.
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And well it should be downgraded. It would be idiotic for a team that averages about 40k per game the last 10 seasons to try to fill up anything more than a 60k stadium. It makes absolutely no economic sense.
It's not just Feijenoord who fills this ground. Cup finals and internationals are played there as well. So a 70'000 seater is certainly not unreasonable.
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Old July 2nd, 2012, 04:43 PM   #118
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It's not just Feijenoord who fills this ground. Cup finals and internationals are played there as well. So a 70'000 seater is certainly not unreasonable.
Cup finals come once a year at best. Internationals in Netherlands aren't played at one stadium only so a maximum of what - 3-5 sell-out games? If this is the only reason and Feyenoord doesn't need a stadium that big then yes, it is a bit unreasonable
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When will this project be aproved,is there any information about this project.Or this is just a piece of computer work that was once on the move,but not anymore.?
In September two proposals will be ready in concept. The one proposal is for a brand-new stadium to build adjacent to the current one. The other proposal is about building a new stadium in 4 phases on the site where the current stadium is.

Capacities are still believed to vary between 63.000 -66.000.

In December the club will have selected one winning proposal and will present that to the city of Rotterdam for approval (and some funding, but way less then the originally planned 33% of the total building costs). The winning proposals will not contain a final design for the new stadium. It will contain the concept for the new stadium, whereever they are going to build it.

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And well it should be downgraded. It would be idiotic for a team that averages about 40k per game the last 10 seasons to try to fill up anything more than a 60k stadium. It makes absolutely no economic sense.
Actually the club is at the capacity limits of the current Feyenoord stadium. And the last 10 years were predominantly very, very disappointing seasons for Feyenoord as a club. Still the stadium sells out frequently, especially the last season where the club secured a surprising 2nd place in the league. But also the 10 year average shows 40k+ consistantly. It was sold out 8 times last season. Furthermore for security reasons the nominal capacity is just over 47.000 since the fire department has rules that for only 92% of the seats tickets may be sold. For high risk games free zones between the guest section and the home crowd reduce the capacity further to close to 43.000. These restrictions would not be applicable when a new stadium is build.

There is no doubt that a successful Feyenoord will easily attract about 55.000 to 60.000 spectators every standard home game with sold out games against the big teams. But what hurts the club a lot more is that the business facilities are quite poor and low in quantity for a stadium in this day and age.

There are waiting lists for the business units and business seats. And since the ones on offer (which are already booked) do not offer really that much amenities, the club desparatly needs a new stadium to generate more money.
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Old September 5th, 2012, 06:11 PM   #120
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Yes we do.

New plans for a totally new stadium for Feyenoord Rotterdam are expected to be released this month or at the beginning of next month. There will be two (maybe 3) proposals from two competing teams of architects, construction companies and founders.

One of the proposals will be to build a new stadium just on the other side of road (Satdionweg) where now the training grounds are and where the amateur section of Feyenoord is based.

The other proposal will most like target a new stadium to be built in 4 phases on the current site where the current stadium resides. A possible third option would be to be a new stadium just north of the current one. But there the road on the front side (Olympiaweg) and possibly the railroad tracks are limiting factors which means that the stadium would be built on ground level +1. So this option is maybe the one which is the first to be dismissed.

No official decisions for whatever proposal by the club, stadium and the city can be expected before the end of the year. The clubs targets late December as a formal decision target but it could easily be the Spring of 2013 before decisions are taken. The financing of the stadium will be the biggest issue to overcome.

Obviously the decision taken would also impact the fate of the current stadium.
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