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Old October 14th, 2011, 12:26 AM   #961
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Guys, what do you know about the Zoroastrian community of Iran in terms of their socioeconomic status? Have they been as rich as the Zoroastrians of India?

When you compare Iranian Zoroastrians and Iranian Muslims who is generally more affluent, successful and educated - and to what extent? What about in comparison to the Jews? I am trying to find info online but nowhere seems to mention whether Zoroastrians in modern Iran were wealthy, poor or whatever (like from the Pahlavi era till today).
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Old October 14th, 2011, 02:24 AM   #962
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they are generally the same economically

under the pahlavis they were viewed as very a good sign of patriotism,
today they are a bit discriminated by authorities (like all other religions) but in general they are the same
but not like the ones india, the parsees in india have bin a dominant wealthy force in india for centuries
irania harja miran saranjam sarafrazo maye dar mian , vali tu keshvaro khodemun na!!

interesting enough, i have met zoroastrians mostly from the villages, they are all very kind and open minded regarding almost everything, shado shangoulan, mehrabunan
they think freely and liberaly
i am surprised to see that our own religion and culture can provide such a culture of open mindedness in the most remote areas, but when we see islam riding on our people .... lol
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Old February 18th, 2012, 10:23 PM   #963
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My Question: Do you believe in a secular and democratic Iran. That the population of Zoroastrians and other minority groups will grow enough to make a major shift/change in the Muslim postulation of Iran? Im guessing the amount of conversions would increase a great amount, and many non-Muslim Iranians would return to the homeland.
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Old February 18th, 2012, 10:47 PM   #964
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My Question: Do you believe in a secular and democratic Iran. That the population of Zoroastrians and other minority groups will grow enough to make a major shift/change in the Muslim postulation of Iran? Im guessing the amount of conversions would increase a great amount, and many non-Muslim Iranians would return to the homeland.
A great numbers of iranians are agnostic and atheist and the majority of the muslim population are very secular, so yes we want a free democratic, secular iran which respects the right of minorities both religious and ethnic minorities.
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Old February 18th, 2012, 11:51 PM   #965
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My Question: Do you believe in a secular and democratic Iran. That the population of Zoroastrians and other minority groups will grow enough to make a major shift/change in the Muslim postulation of Iran? Im guessing the amount of conversions would increase a great amount, and many non-Muslim Iranians would return to the homeland.
certainly, what u said is very realistic and hopefully will happen, its likely

ive seen large numbers of "muslims" (most of us arent really religious) convert to christianity, zoroastriamism atheism agnostic etc

but since conversion out of islam currently isnt legal the percentages dont change

with a secular system iran would be more religiously diverse, and hopefully the millions of us outside would return home
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Old February 19th, 2012, 12:08 PM   #966
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So true, i've always dreamed about being able to return to Iran sometime, i have it good here in Sweden but still, if the regime was toppled and it would become secular i would definitely move back.

Hopefully it would be by a democratically elected government, not some military junta, Mujahedin-e Khalq or the Communist party of Iran lol.
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Old February 19th, 2012, 06:10 PM   #967
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maybe a weird question,but are sms i send from my german mobile phone to an iranian one controlled by an iranian government institution?

same goes for iranian sms to me...
the messages aren“t really private,though,just the typical,how r u doing,i am doing this blabla...
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Old February 19th, 2012, 06:59 PM   #968
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nicht sicher

i dont think they check if it doesnt contain certain words, i dunkno
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Old February 20th, 2012, 12:39 AM   #969
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nicht sicher

i dont think they check if it doesnt contain certain words, i dunkno
merssssi

thanks for trying to write a little bit german
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Old February 20th, 2012, 03:46 AM   #970
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merssssi

thanks for trying to write a little bit german
lol kein problem

nd i know german so it was alles gut
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:10 AM   #971
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Salam !

Uhm...I don't know how to start.

I know that there are many Azeri speaking people in North-Western Iran,so:

1) What's the probability of encountering Azeri speaking people in the region between Turkey and Azerbaijan ? Let's take for example the city of Tebriz.

2) What do you recommend regarding withdrawing money/changing money ? I know there are some issues regarding the central bank of Iran...Or there aren't ?
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:21 AM   #972
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Salam !

Uhm...I don't know how to start.

I know that there are many Azeri speaking people in North-Western Iran,so:

1) What's the probability of encountering Azeri speaking people in the region between Turkey and Azerbaijan ? Let's take for example the city of Tebriz.

2) What do you recommend regarding withdrawing money/changing money ? I know there are some issues regarding the central bank of Iran...Or there aren't ?
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1)azeris are the vasy majority in the region

over 90% of the people you would encounter in a city like tabriz are tabrizis, which speak azeri as their mother language, so almost all can speak azeri turkish

2) money exchange; banking in iran is a hassle since the system is corrupt and has many issues, exchanging money currently is a horrible idea since irans money currently isnt worth anything after the dollar injection drop
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:26 AM   #973
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Thank you for your quick answer.

Ok, I got the first answer. I'm talking Crimean Tatar and Turkish (and several other Turkic languages), hope not to have a big problem with Azeri. I can understand 95% of Azerbaijani Turkish.

Now, you recommend me that I enter with cash, right ?
Where to change that money ? Where can I find Iranian riyals to buy ? I mean, isn't there a problem if I enter with Euros or dollars ? I don't really know Iran's stance on foreign money.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:31 AM   #974
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Thank you for your quick answer.

Ok, I got the first answer. I'm talking Crimean Tatar and Turkish (and several other Turkic languages), hope not to have a big problem with Azeri. I can understand 95% of Azerbaijani Turkish.

Now, where to change that money ? Where can I find Iranian riyals to buy ?
np

most large cities in turkey(if thats where you are from) like istanbul, ankara, antalya izmir etc certainly have iranian exchange offices ran by iranians, there are many here in toronto, thats where we get rials
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:32 AM   #975
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np

most large cities in turkey(if thats where you are from) like istanbul, ankara, antalya izmir etc certainly have iranian exchange offices ran by iranians, there are many here in toronto, thats where we get rials
Hmmm okey.
That's how I'll do it. Inshalla !
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 11:02 AM   #976
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In Təbriz we have a special respect or those who speak Turkic(from any part of the world)
You are more than welcome
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 08:32 PM   #977
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@Cadir:
I moved your comments to the Randomness Thread! Thread
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 02:23 PM   #978
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can somebody recommend a good history book about persia, iran?

i am especially interested in the last century...mossadegh,the shah, the islamic revolution...
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 08:37 PM   #979
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I recommend all the books by "Abbas Milani", his books are incredibly popular and sell out very fast.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 01:50 AM   #980
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don't want to start a sh!tstorm or anything...

But how do you feel about Israel?

about Netanyahu?

Obama?
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