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Old March 1st, 2012, 10:18 PM   #481
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Trains down street might function in and around non-car-centric places; I'd only favour a tram down Park were the avenue trams only, although ain't it Park that's being reported as now suffering four years' worth of roadworks?
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 01:07 PM   #482
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Trains down street might function in and around non-car-centric places; I'd only favour a tram down Park were the avenue trams only, although ain't it Park that's being reported as now suffering four years' worth of roadworks?
*sarcasm* Why, what do you know? It is! But a tramway certainly couldn't help not kill the street, like what happened to the main. *sarcasm*
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 05:10 PM   #483
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Trains, i.e., lengthily-articulated trams, and cars really don't mix ... merchants would have a fit were cars prohibited from taking the avenue.
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Old March 5th, 2012, 03:38 PM   #484
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Trains, i.e., lengthily-articulated trams, and cars really don't mix ... merchants would have a fit were cars prohibited from taking the avenue.
And people have a hissy fit when the idea of making downtown a tolled area surfaces. In this city, we had almost 500 km (I might be getting that wrong) of tramway lines and the number of cars was limited, and now the thought of it turns people off. In 5 years, when the price of gas is at $4 per liter, people will abandon their cars in favor of public transit. Every 15 cent jump in gas prices is a victory.

I never said prohibited, rather limited, i.e. reduced to 2 lanes in each direction.
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Old March 5th, 2012, 10:03 PM   #485
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The prohibition was my own suggestion. As much as I dislike vehicular traffic and wish it be curtailed, it would take a miracle to bring about any clawback to car usage in and around the inner city, no?
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Old March 6th, 2012, 06:42 PM   #486
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The prohibition was my own suggestion. As much as I dislike vehicular traffic and wish it be curtailed, it would take a miracle to bring about any clawback to car usage in and around the inner city, no?
Sadly, the answer is yes. Or at least for now. There will be huge demand for public transit. Already 2 million people use the bus and metro every day, and that number is climbing every year.

As for middle of the street tram lines, this should be the option on Pie-IX, Parc, Cammilien-Houde (or completely replacing the road) and Queen-Mary, as well as a new service on the abandoned tracks in the Old Port.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 09:28 PM   #487
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My preference is for metros although maybe middle-of-broad-boulevard (like Pie-IX and E & W Henri Bourassa) tramways would work
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Old March 7th, 2012, 02:57 AM   #488
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My preference is for metros although maybe middle-of-broad-boulevard (like Pie-IX and E & W Henri Bourassa) tramways would work
How about middle-of-the-road metro? The train could be enclosed in a glass tunnel and the cars could pass under the tracks. Either that or an elevated track on top of existing buildings (wouldn't work on residential streets, lol).

What happened to everyone else on this thread? You guy still here?

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Old March 10th, 2012, 01:31 AM   #489
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You know what, my worry here is that as demand for transit goes up, as has been predicted, it won't necessarilly increase in availability to meet that demand. This is because the government is broke and can't afford to make the necessary transit investments it needs to. Weren't all those metro extensions announced four years ago? There's already plenty of demand in the areas it was announced the system would be expanded into. But since transport is not profitable, it requires public funds it doesn't generate them, it doesn't get funded. I understand it needs public funds to compete with the publicly built road system, but it's one more cost and just keeps getting put off.
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Old March 10th, 2012, 11:35 PM   #490
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More like decades ago.

Most governments become broke from doling out their constituents' dollars to questionable entrepreneurs. Our overall problem lies in the supposition that the public sector must become profitable; affordability wouldn't be jeopardised if it weren't for this abominable belief, stance, position.

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Old April 19th, 2012, 07:46 AM   #491
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Just make elevated trains everywhere. The metro doesn't have to be underground. Here in Osaka they're everywhere, even beside the high school where I teach.

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Old April 19th, 2012, 05:20 PM   #493
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Old April 19th, 2012, 09:59 PM   #494
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Not much response to my suggestion

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Old April 20th, 2012, 11:11 AM   #495
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Might be good for the Yellow line if it were to be extended further east into Longueuil.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 08:22 PM   #496
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Anyone have a source citing the construction cost per km of the sheltered elevated section? It would be interesting to know how much such a structure would cost relative to an unsheltered elevated line and to see how much the savings would be compared to building underground.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 10:27 PM   #497
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... plus imagine the costliness were it to last only 15 years

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Not much response to my suggestion
Well, I think its a great idea. The Metro doesn't have to be underground. Sadly, the people at the AMT don't think.
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Old May 4th, 2012, 02:44 AM   #499
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Something tells me that the STM are more overground aversive than the AMT
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Old May 13th, 2012, 06:57 PM   #500
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Something tells me that the STM are more overground aversive than the AMT
I would have never thought that! "METRO MUST BE UNDERGROUND CAULIS DE TABARNACLE" might as well be a quote from the chairman himself...
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