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Old February 23rd, 2012, 11:38 AM   #21
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I don't think banning it is a solution because there are people who make honest living out of it. Regulation is the word. Regulation includes punishment for offenders. So I think some people who are responsible may be complicit that is why it is flourishing, for how would people collect metal pieces in broad daylight without someone arresting, prosecuting and jailing them? Something's got to give!!! Either the thieves or those responsible.
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Old March 4th, 2012, 07:04 AM   #22
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Vandals strike again! 40 street light poles gone! And there is a checkpoint nearby!





Vandals struck on Wednesday night and cut down over 40 street light poles along the stretch of road leading from the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport to Mombasa road. An eye witness Anthony Munene who works at the airport said he was reporting for work at around 5am in the morning while he noticed several young men carrying away the poles and loading them onto a lorry.
Unconfirmed reports indicated that the poles were in high demand from scrap metal dealers operating in Mlolongo who were offering the vandals huge sums for the poles and other metal. Vandals have also vandalised the railguard of the flyover at the railway crossing near General Motors. Last September, Roads minister Franklin Bett called for the banning of the scrap metal business which he said was contributing to the vandalisation of road signs and road rails.
The urged Prime Minister Raila Odinga to direct the relevant ministry to review the business if the road infrastructure is to be protected. Last month, Kenya Power managing director Eddy Njoroge said the company lost Sh30 million when a power line was brought down after vandals stole two steel towers at Lukenya, Machakos county "Vandalism does not affect KPLC alone but the entire Kenyan economy," Njoroge said and estimated that the company has lost about Sh6 billion to vandals in the last ten years. He estimated the loss to the national economy stood at over Sh11 billion over the same period. Vandalism has also forced the Nairobi City council to introduce plastic covers for manholes two years ago after all the metal covers were stolen.


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Old March 4th, 2012, 07:42 AM   #23
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Ban the scrap metal trade!
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Old March 4th, 2012, 04:44 PM   #24
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Ban the scrap metal trade!
At the rate this thing is increasing, it seems to be the only viable solution.
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Old March 4th, 2012, 06:35 PM   #25
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When I was young ... I recall some streetlights were made out of concrete .... simple solution revert back to this ... end of story .....
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Old March 4th, 2012, 08:09 PM   #26
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When I was young ... I recall some streetlights were made out of concrete .... simple solution revert back to this ... end of story .....
I think you are refering to the streetlight poles one finds in areas like the CBD. Those street poles were imported from the UK before independence but outlived even the earlier metallic poles that used to be painted green with a white base (for those of you who still remember Nairobi before the 90's).

I think thats a very practical idea when it comes to the street lights but what about the rest of the street furniture? The rails, signage? Im sorry but I support a total ban on this trade. Its the most practical solution to this problem.
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Old March 4th, 2012, 09:15 PM   #27
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And if it cannot be banned, then use alternatives: like concrete light poles and barriers.
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Old March 4th, 2012, 09:49 PM   #28
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yep i agree. 40 street lamps and they even got a lorry to transport them..this is horrible
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Old March 5th, 2012, 12:46 AM   #29
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police wewe wacha kulala there are known metal dealers in kenya why is it zoo hard to investigate all them am sure they are five.
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Old March 5th, 2012, 05:16 AM   #30
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Kenya's biggest flaw rests with the so-called police. They are basically a bunch of criminals. For how else do you explain the fact that while these 'dealers' were busy carting away the poles, the police checkpoint at JKIA main entrance was barely a km away? Once I was being dropped by a taxi at the airport, and they asked my taxi man, "Do you have a certificate for tinting the car?" I nearly dropped off my rocker with my guffaw.
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Old March 5th, 2012, 05:52 AM   #31
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My friend in nakuru was telling me that they steal bars from your windows and even gates when they know that ur not around. How do you protect window bars and the gate?
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Old March 8th, 2012, 12:59 PM   #32
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Bandits @ it already ......

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Old March 8th, 2012, 11:22 PM   #33
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"We are behaving worse than Animals" hahaha Oh Philip you're just to funny but you have a point kenyans need to start behaving like they are the 21th century and ban all scrap metal trading for atleast 10years until the situation is under control
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Old April 28th, 2012, 09:01 PM   #34
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Vandalism of metal fixtures is similar to poaching.In the case of poaching, the dealers are foreign, hence it's practical for the KWS to enact a shoot to kill policy when it comes to poachers.So long as there are scrap metal dealers willing to pay for stolen goods, this form of crime will continue. Go after the metal dealers and put them out of business completely!

Somehow I think that the scrap metal dealers cant be that many in Kenya which means that they make a lot of money with enough left over to bribe the police to look the other way. If the punishment for dealing in this illicit trade is multiplied tenfold & enforced, you will see less & less of it. Cause & effect.
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Old June 14th, 2012, 08:22 AM   #36
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The madness is not stopping anytime soon, these thieves have taken to looting anything on site and the town authorities are beginning to wake up, the trade has been banned in Nakuru and webuye towns, how i wish Nairobi was awake to the danger posed by these merchants
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Old June 17th, 2012, 03:48 AM   #37
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They need to ban all those businesses that deal in scrap metal.Or they could introduce a regulatory body that oversee's this jua kali businesses.For intance the "shops" that sell used car parts(lights), we all know most of those come from cars waiting in traffic, how about issuing serial numbers for legit second hand parts, should also be extended to the scrap metal dealers.

The Kenya Police were curtailed by the new laws and can't do much against the scrap metal dealers who still operate feverishly at the expense of the taxpayer.
The Police wanted an across the board ban on the business or strictly regulate it but the legislators in some of the most affected areas are against the restrictions.

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yaani zinabebwa mchana!Something is really wrong!
They pose as construction workers during the day when they cut it and then come back at night to haul it away when the cops aren't vigilant.
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Old June 17th, 2012, 04:07 AM   #38
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Vandals struck on Wednesday night and cut down over 40 street light poles along the stretch of road leading from the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport to Mombasa road.


Source: The Star (http://www.the-star.co.ke/national/n...oad-vandalised)
It takes a long time to cut down over 40 electric lighting poles... Considering that the vandals were cautiously avoiding getting electrocuted, they really took their sweet time to accomplish that! That means that there wasn't a single police patrol on that stretch of road for over 3 hours OR the cops stopped by the crime scene and took a bribe and went on their way. The road from the country's main international airport has to be one of the most policed roadways in the country..... but sadly, not in Kenya. Disgusting.
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Old October 3rd, 2012, 12:30 PM   #39
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Kiambu road vandals have no mercy on the copper cables




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Old October 3rd, 2012, 02:25 PM   #40
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Gosh, this is so wrong.
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