The Renderings Thread

[Innsertnamehere]

ya its U/C. it will bring the PATH south of the gardiner to the new RBC building. (and eventually to the twin 70 floor proposals)

[Leviathan]

Agreed. One of the most amazing stretches of road to travel on now. Its only going to get better. If there's one benefit to the Gairdner being slow, its that it gives you time to look around at the recent developments.

[AndrewJM3D]

Originally Posted by isaidso

If it were tapered, wouldn't it have a larger floor plate than Ten York on the lower floors, and only smaller floor plates near the top? Also a tapered design wouldn't block views of the lake as it would taper from a point to where Ten York sits. It's only views of that condo to the south that would be blocked (a bonus rather than a negative), and only from lower floors from ICE.

That's why the first plan was shot down by the city. To make it a wedged shape tower with the max width seen in the latest version it's floor plates in the tower would be about 33% smaller.

[Taller, Better]

I always get a bit of a thrill driving along the Gardiner. It has one of the most breathtaking views of the city that you can get. What an introduction to our city for anyone coming from the airport. Makes a bigger impression than driving through a two kilometre black tunnel with orange lighting.

So, I'm confused.... what is the latest proposal, then? Has the preliminary design concept just above this, on the right hand side been changed?

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by AndrewJM3D

That's why the first plan was shot down by the city. To make it a wedged shape tower with the max width seen in the latest version it's floor plates in the tower would be about 33% smaller.

I wish I knew how to use one of those building model software programs then I could demonstrate what I mean by a tapered tower. That one you showed isn't any where close to what I'm suggesting. First of all it doesn't start at the point, it doesn't taper at all, and it doesn't take up the whole lot. If you take up the whole lot, it's obviously going to have larger floor plates than the square floor plate tower that is getting built. Ten York doesn't take up the whole lot, only the podium does.

This is as close to the what I'm suggesting that I could find online. By tapered, I mean like the building at the back. Something like that with more rounded ends and better materials. Every floor would get successively smaller. Once one got to a floor plate of similar size to Ten York you could stop the taper and round the top off. It doesn't matter though as they've decided on a traditional square tower on a triangular plot.


Courtesy of Adam Coupe, design by Zaha Hadid

Option 2: a convex taper like a boot. The back end (eastern facade) could be kept straight. Overall I like Ten York, but they've shown no creativity at all. They've built a triangular podium and stuck a square floor plate on top of it. It's a nice tower, but the composition is very awkward and contrived.



These 2 options are obviously conceptual and would need to be refined before its presentable.

[MissyC]

hmmm... let me see... I guess I know what you mean.

Early 70's the French were pioneers in building such all across Côte d'Azur and Saint Tropez.

They started a trend that has been followed by the rich booming economies of the time like Iran, Lebanon, Egypt and off course across Italy.

My most faves in that regard are the awesome looking apartments of Villeneuve Loubet at Villeneuve, Saint Tropez.

Although the buildings are old now, yet still very prestigious and expensive to live in. Haven't been there for a long time but am sure "Isaidso" would mean something like these which in my opinion, could be of such sight if being built at Lake Ontario's coast to give it more of Saint Tropez look

[Heath_Braxton]

Originally Posted by Taller, Better

I always get a bit of a thrill driving along the Gardiner. It has one of the most breathtaking views of the city that you can get. What an introduction to our city for anyone coming from the airport. Makes a bigger impression than driving through a two kilometre black tunnel with orange lighting.

So, I'm confused.... what is the latest proposal, then? Has the preliminary design concept just above this, on the right hand side been changed?

I have to admit that the Gardiner has the best views of the city. Definetely leaves our west gate fwy for dead however ours will have the great hemmed in feel in the next 20 years. What i wanna know is what they're doing underneath the Gardiner expressway? Seems like alot of greenspace, walkways and bike paths. Oneway of linking the waterfront to downtown without the cost of dismantling it and borring a tunnel. Also of interest is to the right of the hilton tower in the west gate pic. It's where we had an SSC meeting last year on the foreshore at some restaurant. Don't think i'll be going to any Australian meetings again LoL
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PS u should have already known that it was me since you're an administrator

[large]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

ya its U/C. it will bring the PATH south of the gardiner to the new RBC building. (and eventually to the twin 70 floor proposals)

Fab, just what the city needed...nice to see some really good planning materialize.

[Taller, Better]

Originally Posted by Heath_Braxton

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PS u should have already known that it was me since you're an administrator

There are tens of thousands of profiles, and I don't have esp!

[Innsertnamehere]

as more buildings are proposed, our future skyline grows larger.

the new lumen building in cityplace has been added;



the hilton inn proposal added, despite it actually being quite the old proposal. (i spent forever with this model, lots of setbacks, and I tried to get the dimensions as accurate as possible) this is probably the most accurate model in the entire thing.



60 colbourne and the new 47 floor proposal beside it. (just a massing model as no renders have been released yet)



and saving the best for last, my interpretation of the 277m mega tower going up in yorkville; (this is what it will look like, judging by the singular line drawing we have so far) one bloor is still at 238m, as it will be until i hear an official height for the recent increase to 75 floors.

[Leviathan]

That last pic really strikes me. It's obviously an illusion, as there are a lot of gaps to be filled in the space between Yorkville and the CBD, but if the density were to build up it we would have quite the downtown core. Approaching Manhattan density without the numerous supertalls.

[MattToronto]

Good job Insertnamehere (I can only fathom what your name is in actuality)! Maybe when I create new projects I'll forward them your way for a little fantasy mockup

[Marcanadian]

All of those projects, yet that massive parking lot adjacent to Jazz is still there. It's like a zit that won't go away.

[Taller, Better]

Superb work, Insertnamehere! Really a stunning effect; our city is undergoing a complete transformation before our very eyes..

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by Marcanadian

All of those projects, yet that massive parking lot adjacent to Jazz is still there. It's like a zit that won't go away.

What lot is that? The one down by Queen East or that one north of the Central YMCA?

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by Leviathan

That last pic really strikes me. It's obviously an illusion, as there are a lot of gaps to be filled in the space between Yorkville and the CBD, but if the density were to build up it we would have quite the downtown core. Approaching Manhattan density without the numerous supertalls.

It's great that we're even talking about the downtown filling in between Yorkville and the CBD. 10 years ago, the only large towers were in the CBD. Now we have Four Seasons, One Bloor, Casa, X Condos, Uptown, etc. in Yorkville. AURA progressed the conversation to this discussion.

I know you meant built form, but here's a population density comparison. Downtown Toronto is about 5 times smaller than Manhattan geographically, but the density certainly is moving towards what exists in Manhattan. The population of downtown Toronto increased from 132,434 in 2006 to 175,064 in 2011. That's a 32.2% increase in just 5 years.

By my calculations, downtown Toronto would need a population of 320,000 to equal Manhattan density. We'll likely be up to 230,000 by 2016 so maybe by 2021 it will be comparable. Consider the following:

Manhattan
Land Area: 22.96 sq mi
Population (2010): 1,585,873
Density: 70,951/sq mi

Downtown Toronto
Land Area: 4.5 sq mi
Population (2011): 175,064
Density: 38,903/sq mi



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1486697

As we're fond of looking at Chicago, I thought I'd add that too. I wasn't sure what to add and what not to add. The Chicago Loop was too small an area so included to the north and south of it. It seems that downtown Toronto is almost twice as dense as downtown Chicago while Manhattan is almost twice as dense as downtown Toronto. All data below was taken off wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Loop

Lincoln Park---Near North Side---Chicago Loop---Near South Side---Downtown Chicago
Land Area: 3.19 sq mi---2.72 sq mi---1.58 sq mi---1.75 sq mi---9.24 sq mi
Population (2010): 64,116---80,484---29,283---21,390---195,273
Density: 21,133/sq mi

[Marcanadian]

Originally Posted by isaidso

What lot is that? The one down by Queen East or that one north of the Central YMCA?

Queen East and Mutual. It takes up a whole city block.

[Mercenary]

I think Toronto needs 50 years of this type of growth to even approach Manhattan.

However, I think Chicago can be beaten by 2025 Toronto keeps this up.

[Bisonblight]

We are already well ahead of Chicago.

[Taller, Better]

I don't think so; not by a long chalk. Chicago is a lot bigger. Maybe you just have to be there to get a feel for it. Why bother even worrying about these comparisons? We are who we are and that should be good enough! There is more to a city than bricks and mortar.