Iraq Standing up for itself

[elusive]

this thread is hilarious lol!

[kurd123]

Originally Posted by alshawi1234

There's plenty of Mossad agents hiring Kurds to get info about Iran. That might be part of the joint Israeli-American secret envoy working for a possible war against iran.

That is pure propaganda... if PJAK had agents that could do so much damage to Iran they won't do it for mossad they would use it as a bargain point agents Iran. These reports have not been confirmed by Iran so I don't believe it.

[kurd123]

Originally Posted by elusive

this thread is hilarious lol!

What you don't like the wide range of topics being discussed?

[elusive]

lol there are like 3 arguments at one time, it's brilliant :P

[Kutsuit]

Originally Posted by sheytanElKebir

Not to mention that we are your Ubermenschen and have higher IQ and FAR more Scientists/engineers/doctors than the entire "GCC" combined.

Like this guy?

[sheytanElKebir]

no not that guy.

but you know exactly what I mean

We are smarter than you, and the Iraqis who had the opportunity to advance certainly advanced more than "your lot". Deny it... but we had Satellites and Satellite launch vehicles 23 years ago. HELLO ghaname!

Of course the above person is simply another result of the ignorance and poverty caused by the EMBARGO years and subsequent INVASION. in which your country played a KEY AND DECISIVE role. The above example is simply illustrates one facet of the COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT you initiated and brutally enforced against the entire populace of Iraq from 1991-2011. I hope you are proud of the destruction you wreaked upon Iraq and its middle class / scientific cadres.

[kurd123]

Are you actually saying that the chances of an individual Iraqi being smarter than an individual Kuwaiti is higher? I hope I misunderstood...

[Kutsuit]

Originally Posted by sheytanElKebir

no not that guy.

but you know exactly what I mean

We are smarter than you, and the Iraqis who had the opportunity to advance certainly advanced more than "your lot". Deny it... but we had Satellites and Satellite launch vehicles 23 years ago. HELLO ghaname!

Of course the above person is simply another result of the ignorance and poverty caused by the EMBARGO years and subsequent INVASION. in which your country played a KEY AND DECISIVE role. The above example is simply illustrates on facet of the COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT you initiated and brutally enforced against the entire populace of Iraq from 1991-2011. I hope you are proud.

You shouldn't feel superior to, or hate, the Gulf Arabs. It was the GCC Arabs who Arabized you lot, after all.

And since we're the Jews of the Gulf, which I take as a compliment instead of an insult, then we should be automatically assumed smarter than you. Right?

Anyway I did a little searching on Google and found that the Iraqi Turkmen population is 3 million, not the 0.4 that you suggested.

You still haven't proven your conspiracy theories to me, about the slant drilling, starvation, etc. Older people would tell you Iraq had starvation problems since the 80s, while Saddam was too busy buying weapons and fighting proxy wars for his Western friends. The embargoes were going to happen by the UN and West, regardless of Kuwait's say. And Iraq still has a long way to go compensating the environmental destruction it did to Kuwait.

By the way, about the Mahdi joke, I hope you got mine as well. Mr. Mahdi will not care about Iraq's interests.

[sheytanElKebir]

Originally Posted by kurd123

Are you actually saying that the chances of an individual Iraqi being smarter than an individual Kuwaiti is higher? I hope I misunderstood...

oh no. its not a question of genetics. Just a question of differences in society.

[kurd123]

@Kutsuit

I assure you that it is complete lies! sheytan is completely right about the Turkoman percentage.. I know there are about 300,000 in Erbil but the majority want nothing to do with Turkey, but the overall Turkoman number is not higher than 600,000

[kurd123]

Originally Posted by sheytanElKebir

oh no. its not a question of genetics. Just a question of differences in society.

Whatever I'm going to stay away from that argument.

[sheytanElKebir]

Originally Posted by Kutsuit

You shouldn't feel superior to, or hate, the Gulf Arabs. It was the GCC Arabs who Arabized you lot, after all.

And since we're the Jews of the Gulf, which I take as a compliment instead of an insult, then we should be automatically assumed smarter than you. Right?

it seems you have only "some" attributes as we can see from below...

Anyway I did a little searching on Google and found that the Iraqi Turkmen population is 3 million, not the 0.4 that you suggested.

proves my point about intelligence in one easy to digest snippet. LOOOOL!!!! Clearly not very good at googling such simple things!

You still haven't proven your conspiracy theories to me, about the slant drilling, starvation, etc. Older people would tell you Iraq had starvation problems since the 80s, while Saddam was too busy buying weapons and fighting proxy wars for his Western friends. The embargoes were going to happen by the UN and West, regardless of Kuwait's say. And Iraq still has a long way to go compensating the environmental destruction it did to Kuwait.

By the way, about the Mahdi joke, I hope you got mine as well. Mr. Mahdi will not care about Iraq's interests.

there was no starvation or embargoes against iraq in the 1980s. How ludicrously INSANE!! LOOOOL. This is a new "low".

DON'T TRY to run away from the reality. If you consider yourself to be "educated" go and learn something about what happened to Iraq between 1991-2011 and Kuwait's role in that. Are you interested in knowing that or not?

here's an old thread about the topic... http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1402704

[Kutsuit]

LOL, admit it instead of acting like a troll. If you Iraqis were smarter or more superior than GCC Arabs, which you're not, then you would've never been Arabized or would've never succumbed to Hejazi rule as well as other foreign submissions, including Ottoman, Safavid, etc. Furthermore, you wouldn't have a "scientist" who thinks the Earth is flat.

Iraq had starvation problems long before the Gulf War. Iraqi politicians didn't care, hence the sorry state you're in right now. UN embargoes are just that... UN. Kuwait deserved to get their compensation, and we probably still have a right asking for more, given that our natural resources were damaged by Saddam's invasion.

Go ahead and prove your conspiracy theories. All you do is talk the talk, but you don't walk the walk. Your lack of substance is actually characteristic of Iraq's government during the 1990/91 Gulf War. Aim high and shoot low.

[sheytanElKebir]

1-since when has there been a correlation between invasion and intelligence/civilisation?
2- that person is not an iraqi scientist.
3- i presume your story of starvation in iraq before 1990 comes from the same sources as the "baby incubators" and the bizzare "3M turkmen in iraq".
4- the destruction of iraq from 1991-2011 is a "conspiracy theory" nice. well that really does tell us what you think of the suffering you've unleashed upon 30 million souls.

i shall write a longer reply (on the iraqi sue list thread) outlining iraqs case against kuwait.

[Euphrates]

Originally Posted by Kutsuit

LOL, admit it instead of acting like a troll. If you Iraqis were smarter or more superior than GCC Arabs, which you're not, then you would've never been Arabized or would've never succumbed to Hejazi rule as well as other foreign submissions, including Ottoman, Safavid, etc. Furthermore, you wouldn't have a "scientist" who thinks the Earth is flat.

Iraq had starvation problems long before the Gulf War. Iraqi politicians didn't care, hence the sorry state you're in right now. UN embargoes are just that... UN. Kuwait deserved to get their compensation, and we probably still have a right asking for more, given that our natural resources were damaged by Saddam's invasion.

Go ahead and prove your conspiracy theories. All you do is talk the talk, but you don't walk the walk. Your lack of substance is actually characteristic of Iraq's government during the 1990/91 Gulf War. Aim high and shoot low.

Are you crazy?

How dare you consider the starvation of millions of Iraqis a conspiracy!

576,000 Iraqi children died by just 1995 because of the sanctions imposed by the security council.

[Basrawii]

To the Kuwaiti guy, man, please get it:

Iraqis are so NOT smarter than anyone...

So please leave them thinking that they are the perfect human beings on this planet, while of course they aint.

I remember this guy who used to go on FAYHAA TV saying that Iraqis have extra cells in their brains which makes them smarter, he says studies show that, I would really love to put my hands on those retarded studies.

[sheytanElKebir]

basrawii. anything on fayhaa is crap. we know that. but the rest of what you said is not true. we are smarter than them. not necessariky more successful. but smarter nonetheless.

one example is this particular discussion. where my line has simply been to goad the kuwaiti into coming out with how she really feels / thinks about iraqis.... in just a few posts we've gone into the embargo and invasion of 2003 becoming "conspiracy theories"... and iraqis were apparently starving in the 1980s so starving in the 1990s was not kuwaiti revenge.... oh no. iraq was like ethiopia all along.

[SumerianKing]

Originally Posted by sheytanElKebir

basrawii. anything on fayhaa is crap. we know that. but the rest of what you said is not true. we are smarter than them. not necessariky more successful. but smarter nonetheless.

Shaytan you know the iraqis outside iraq are one of if not the most successful people out all arab countries. Theres around 10million displaced iraqis.

[elusive]

Originally Posted by SumerianKing

Shaytan you know the iraqis outside iraq are one of if not the most successful people out all arab countries. Theres around 10million displaced iraqis.

exactly look at all the brilliant Iraqi minds we have out there, Zaha Hadid for example.

[Spin Cycle]

Originally Posted by Kutsuit

LOL, admit it instead of acting like a troll. If you Iraqis were smarter or more superior than GCC Arabs, which you're not, then you would've never been Arabized or would've never succumbed to Hejazi rule as well as other foreign submissions, including Ottoman, Safavid, etc. Furthermore, you wouldn't have a "scientist" who thinks the Earth is flat.

Iraq had starvation problems long before the Gulf War. Iraqi politicians didn't care, hence the sorry state you're in right now. UN embargoes are just that... UN. Kuwait deserved to get their compensation, and we probably still have a right asking for more, given that our natural resources were damaged by Saddam's invasion.

Go ahead and prove your conspiracy theories. All you do is talk the talk, but you don't walk the walk. Your lack of substance is actually characteristic of Iraq's government during the 1990/91 Gulf War. Aim high and shoot low.

conquest had little correlation with intelligence back then. Remember Khan's illiterate hordes conquered Baghdad at its zenith, not to mention most of the known world at the time. Whilst Khan himself was probably a genius, his hordes were most certainly not!