Canadian Transit Discussion

[trainrover]

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Funny, the front part looks New Look to me. MCI taking over GM's Classic is news to me, as is the following model of bendy (which happens to be Halifax's):


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[Quall]

Originally Posted by trainrover

Funny, the front part looks New Look to me.

Because it is.

MCI took over production of the Classic for about a year. Then NovaBus took over and discontinued the artic.

[trainrover]

Originally Posted by Quall

and a Classic for the front end

Then take that back

[Quall]

Originally Posted by Quall

...uses a 35' New Look chassis for the front section, a 40' New Look chassis for the rear section, and a Classic for the front end.

By front end I meant windshield.

[AndrewJM3D]

At least it looks better then what they use in Havana.

Taken by: Wha'ppen on flickr.com
image hosted on flickr

[Taller, Better]

[Marcanadian]

Maybe somebody can clarify this for me. On the following Wikipedia page Rail Transport in Canada, it says the ridership is 60 million. What is included in this 'ridership'? Via Rail only has a ridership of about 4 million annually, and if commuter rail were taken into account, the ridership across Canada would be much higher than 60 million.

[trainrover]

Their Ridership subtitle is linked ... how about editing their 60 million and see how long your modification remain

[Marcanadian]

Yeah, that just explains what ridership is, but not what rail networks are actually included in the calculation. I'm assuming it's Via, plus regional rail lines like Ontario Northland, plus commuter rail systems. The figure should be closer to 80 million if that were the case.

[trainrover]

What with it being open source, how about listing and explaining the ridership there yourself? I made my first couple of edits on completely different topics there just this year, and ... ... each of them is still holding

[Marcanadian]

I can't for the life of me figure out html coding.

[trainrover]

I hope I've deserved no because I've just modified it and am no pain freak ... let me know how long 80,million last

[trainrover]

Originally Posted by trainrover

25 Feb 2012 :

Montreal transit merger rejected

23 Feb 2012 :

Quebec eyes B.C. model for AMT that critics call ‘incompetent’



Some Vancouver-area mayors, including Coquitlam’s Richard Stewart (third from left), are critical of the region’s transit agency, TransLink, which has been suggested as a model for Montreal.

Anybody else find the safety devised into that photographed Vancouver car park mighty suspicious?

..

[Nouvellecosse]

Good news! The American Public transportation Association (APTA) has just released it's Public Transportation Ridership Report for the 4th quarter of 2011 completing the year's statistics. http://www.apta.com/resources/statis...rship-APTA.pdf



Highlights for year over year ridership in Canada:

- Every city/agency except Calgary saw year over year ridership gains

- Calgary Transit's overall ridership dropped by 2.49% (-2.98% rail, -1.96% bus)

- Brampton had the largest percentage gain system wide (17.95%)

- Scarborough RT ridership increased by 18.09%

- Toronto's TTC still has the highest ridership of any agency in Canada with 2,655,500 weekday riders on average

- Montreal's STM is a close second with 2,540,700 weekday riders on average

- Montreal's ridership growing faster (4.17% vs 3.54%)

- Ottawa's O-train ridership up 16.56%

- Montreal's commuter service AMT's ridership increased 7.65%

- Vancouver's ferry ridership down (-6.73%)

Not every city/agency is represented due to some not having released their statistics at the time of the report.

[Marcanadian]

Good news, as expected. I'm surprised about Calgary though. From what I understand, their system is fairly effective. What happened?

[trainrover]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

- Vancouver's ferry ridership down (-6.73%)

Is that figure a typo, for the only 6.73 instance in the report's pegged to a place called Burnaby? Anyhow, such a drop in ferry ridership across the Burrard Inlet would make no sense ...

[Nouvellecosse]

I double checked and I can confirm it's not a typo. You may notice that for each transit agency the report lists not only the province/state and city, but also the name of the transit agency. In this case the agency is "Greater Vancouver Transit Auth". It is not a coincidence that Translink (the organisation that handles transit and other transportation services in Metro Vancouver) was originally called "The Greater Vancouver Transit Authority" until 2007 when its name was officially changed to Translink. It's also not a coincidence that the regional agency is based in the suburb of Burnaby.

I assume that the APTA has simply not updated its records to include the new name. Or perhaps they're aware of the new name but feel that using the old one is less confusing since otherwise there'd be nothing in the report to link the stats to Vancouver other than the reader's knowledge of Burnaby's location.

As for the ridership drop, one user on SSP hypothesized that it may be result of a ridership surge in 2010 due to the winter Olympics. The data seems to support this. In the first quarter of 2010 (which is when the event occurred) the ferry's ridership was up by 55.44% over the fourth quarter of 2009, and annual ridership for 2010 was up 16.57% over 2009.

So current ridership is still higher than before the large swell in 2010.

[Huhu]

The Canada Line should contribute more passengers to the Seabus; Olympics will mess with all the data so I guess we'll need a few more years to accurately assess the trends.

[trainrover]

Well, I guess this goes to show that no association be any authority

[ssiguy2]

Am I the only one that gets pissed off when I have to go to an American site to get Canadian stats?
CUTA doesn't do it and only god knows why.