BLACKPOOL | Bloomfield Road Redevelopment | 14,000+ | Phase Two U/C - Page 9

Immunda Leodis · August 21st, 2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Toadboy

How will people get in and out of that stand?

Presmably they'll enter by either side, which is not uncommon for stands of that capacity; the small stand at Blackburn has a similar arrangement...

Toadboy · August 21st, 2010, 02:48 PM

The one at Blackburn has a wide walkway at the front, same here?

Looking at that, there's not much room.

Immunda Leodis · August 21st, 2010, 03:49 PM

There's plenty of room to get 2500 people in and, more importantly, out of each end. The concourse under one of the stands at Leeds is only about as wide as that with only 2 exits (one at either end) and that can accommodate 7000 (3500 at either side)

Gherkin · August 21st, 2010, 04:14 PM

I doubt that meets any fire regulations...

Immunda Leodis · August 21st, 2010, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gherkin

I doubt that meets any fire regulations...

I believe that they need to be able to evacuate the stands within 8 mins in an emergency. They can evacuate onto the pitch if needs be although this is far from ideal.

There would not be a hope in hell of them getting a safety certificate if that was a permanent structure so maybe they're pushing it with the regulations on this...

Rev Stickleback · August 22nd, 2010, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gherkin

I doubt that meets any fire regulations...

In terms of evacuation and fireproofing, in what was do you feel it inadequate to any other structure of the same size?

It's not build of materials that will catch fire, nor does it seem more difficult to exit than a similar sized stand.

leftarmoccasional · August 26th, 2010, 05:54 PM

Bare in mind this is a temp stand and will not stay in it's current configuration.

Stand got it's licence last night as 2500 fans turned up for a reserve game. It is indeed accessed at either end by walking along the front, as at Blackburn.

Got a feeling away fans will enjoy themselves....everything is metal, so great accoustics.

All set for Saturday.

Toadboy · August 27th, 2010, 09:52 AM

Away fans will love it, hopefully the stewarding will be liberal enough to allow standing while keeping safety and control.

***RMB2007*** · August 28th, 2010, 03:36 AM

I found this clip on YouTube of the view from the new stand.

Stairz · August 28th, 2010, 11:32 AM

does anyone know what the long-term aim is? are they ultimately going for a uniform bowl? does this temporary structure lay the foundations for that?

the ground's unrecognisable from the one i stood at in the 90s. i swear you could see blackpool tower from the south stand. or maybe i've made that up...

leftarmoccasional · August 31st, 2010, 01:02 PM

I think the long term plan is to make the temp stand permanent, enlarging it and incorporating other facilities, as at Worcester RUFC.

The club have been in discussions with the local econonmic developement agancy about this, but acquiring the land behind the stand is the biggest obstacle. I am told the owners are close to having all the land they need but more will be required.

If the current stand at Worcester is any guide, it is likely to remain a stand alone developement, although filling in the corners remains a possibility should the want to do that.

johnnycakes · April 17th, 2011, 10:09 PM

Was there some new last week regarding increasing capacity even if they get relegated?

***RMB2007*** · April 17th, 2011, 11:31 PM

Yep.

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sp...lans_1_3280686

johnnycakes · April 18th, 2011, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RMB2007

Yep.

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sp...lans_1_3280686

Cheers,i was expecting something a bit more than 500 seats though.

spud · April 19th, 2011, 07:01 PM

they could have actually finished the bowl with a proper stand before last christmas if they got their act together..

leftarmoccasional · May 17th, 2011, 02:40 PM

The chairman was quoted recently as saying that the new semi-prem stand is effectively permanent and will suffice for the next 10 years or more.

He also said he suspects that the PL will be insisting on a 20k minimum capacity for all clubs, at some point in the near future. Given this, he would be looking to expand the North and West sides rather than the new stand which would entail CP of houses behind. Apparently he would rather relocate than get into that.

When asked about a new training ground, his response was that he didn't understand why fans are concerned about such things and said he thought that footballers are only interested in money and not the training facilities.

Full minutes from this meeting (with supporters) are available on the avftt.co.uk message board.

seasideJI · September 15th, 2011, 11:13 PM

http://www.tth-architects.co.uk/defa...px?cid=60&ct=n
Link of what the new blackpool south east corner is supposed to look like, work started a few months back but not much else has happened. Due to the south east corner work half of the east stand has had to be closed.

***RMB2007*** · September 16th, 2011, 12:41 AM

Just Blackpool's way of doing things, isn't it? Replaced those hideously faded seats yet?

andysimo123 · March 31st, 2012, 06:37 PM

Watching the Blackpool-Southampton game and I can see the corner is still under construction, anyone got any updates or news?

russp · April 2nd, 2012, 04:34 PM

There are a few pics of the outside of the new South East corner at this link that somebody took a couple of weeks back.

http://s790.photobucket.com/albums/y...h%20east%2034/

Even though the seats are now in place, they cannot be used, but the council have allowed us to sell about 600 seats in the home side of the East Stand for the last few games, with the spectators using the facilities under the South Stand.

When will this stand be open? Who knows, capacity wise we don't really need it, although it is needed if we want more supporters in the East Stand as they will use the facilities under it when it opens. The other use of this stand is that it is the entrance and restaurant for the hotel that is built into the top 2 floors of the South Stand. Seeing as we are approaching the holiday season you would think they would be rushing to try and get it complete. So we may see an increase of builders from 2 to 3.

The towns moto is 'Progress', where as the football clubs is 'Why do something fast, when it can be done slow'

The faded seats haven't been replaced.

August 21st, 2010, 02:48 PM	#162
Toadboy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Liverpool, in the North of England but not of it Posts: 8,772 Likes (Received): 122	The one at Blackburn has a wide walkway at the front, same here? Looking at that, there's not much room. __________________ Duh! Knows

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Toadboy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Liverpool, in the North of England but not of it Posts: 8,772 Likes (Received): 122	Away fans will love it, hopefully the stewarding will be liberal enough to allow standing while keeping safety and control. __________________ Duh! Knows

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August 21st, 2010, 03:49 PM	#163
Immunda Leodis Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Leeds Posts: 985 Likes (Received): 9	There's plenty of room to get 2500 people in and, more importantly, out of each end. The concourse under one of the stands at Leeds is only about as wide as that with only 2 exits (one at either end) and that can accommodate 7000 (3500 at either side)

August 21st, 2010, 04:14 PM	#164
Gherkin actual gherkin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leeds Posts: 13,727 Likes (Received): 157	I doubt that meets any fire regulations...

August 26th, 2010, 05:54 PM	#167
leftarmoccasional Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Blackpool Posts: 36 Likes (Received): 0	Bare in mind this is a temp stand and will not stay in it's current configuration. Stand got it's licence last night as 2500 fans turned up for a reserve game. It is indeed accessed at either end by walking along the front, as at Blackburn. Got a feeling away fans will enjoy themselves....everything is metal, so great accoustics. All set for Saturday.

August 28th, 2010, 03:36 AM	#169
*RMB2007* Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,272 Likes (Received): 229	I found this clip on YouTube of the view from the new stand.

August 28th, 2010, 11:32 AM	#170
Stairz Bill Randby, Yo. Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Stars Hollow, CT Posts: 5,794 Likes (Received): 297	does anyone know what the long-term aim is? are they ultimately going for a uniform bowl? does this temporary structure lay the foundations for that? the ground's unrecognisable from the one i stood at in the 90s. i swear you could see blackpool tower from the south stand. or maybe i've made that up...

August 31st, 2010, 01:02 PM	#171
leftarmoccasional Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Blackpool Posts: 36 Likes (Received): 0	I think the long term plan is to make the temp stand permanent, enlarging it and incorporating other facilities, as at Worcester RUFC. The club have been in discussions with the local econonmic developement agancy about this, but acquiring the land behind the stand is the biggest obstacle. I am told the owners are close to having all the land they need but more will be required. If the current stand at Worcester is any guide, it is likely to remain a stand alone developement, although filling in the corners remains a possibility should the want to do that.

April 17th, 2011, 10:09 PM	#172
johnnycakes Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 74 Likes (Received): 1	Was there some new last week regarding increasing capacity even if they get relegated?

April 17th, 2011, 11:31 PM	#173
*RMB2007* Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,272 Likes (Received): 229	Yep. http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sp...lans_1_3280686

April 19th, 2011, 07:01 PM	#175
spud Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: oldham Posts: 341 Likes (Received): 0	they could have actually finished the bowl with a proper stand before last christmas if they got their act together..

May 17th, 2011, 02:40 PM	#176
leftarmoccasional Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Blackpool Posts: 36 Likes (Received): 0	The chairman was quoted recently as saying that the new semi-prem stand is effectively permanent and will suffice for the next 10 years or more. He also said he suspects that the PL will be insisting on a 20k minimum capacity for all clubs, at some point in the near future. Given this, he would be looking to expand the North and West sides rather than the new stand which would entail CP of houses behind. Apparently he would rather relocate than get into that. When asked about a new training ground, his response was that he didn't understand why fans are concerned about such things and said he thought that footballers are only interested in money and not the training facilities. Full minutes from this meeting (with supporters) are available on the avftt.co.uk message board.

September 15th, 2011, 11:13 PM	#177
seasideJI Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: blackpool Posts: 4 Likes (Received): 0	http://www.tth-architects.co.uk/defa...px?cid=60&ct=n Link of what the new blackpool south east corner is supposed to look like, work started a few months back but not much else has happened. Due to the south east corner work half of the east stand has had to be closed.

September 16th, 2011, 12:41 AM	#178
*RMB2007* Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,272 Likes (Received): 229	Just Blackpool's way of doing things, isn't it? Replaced those hideously faded seats yet?

March 31st, 2012, 06:37 PM	#179
andysimo123 wind-up merchant Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,877 Likes (Received): 8	Watching the Blackpool-Southampton game and I can see the corner is still under construction, anyone got any updates or news?

April 2nd, 2012, 04:34 PM	#180
russp Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 19 Likes (Received): 0	There are a few pics of the outside of the new South East corner at this link that somebody took a couple of weeks back. http://s790.photobucket.com/albums/y...h%20east%2034/ Even though the seats are now in place, they cannot be used, but the council have allowed us to sell about 600 seats in the home side of the East Stand for the last few games, with the spectators using the facilities under the South Stand. When will this stand be open? Who knows, capacity wise we don't really need it, although it is needed if we want more supporters in the East Stand as they will use the facilities under it when it opens. The other use of this stand is that it is the entrance and restaurant for the hotel that is built into the top 2 floors of the South Stand. Seeing as we are approaching the holiday season you would think they would be rushing to try and get it complete. So we may see an increase of builders from 2 to 3. The towns moto is 'Progress', where as the football clubs is 'Why do something fast, when it can be done slow' The faded seats haven't been replaced.