daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Continental Forums > Africa > North Africa > Maroc > Photography & architecture > Autour du monde / Around The World



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old November 19th, 2009, 11:03 PM   #61
D K
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,070
Likes (Received): 459

Simohamed,
Je suis en partie d'accord avec toi, il y a des styles marocains, chaque dynastie ayant développé le sien. Mais ils possèdent tous des caractéristiques, une base commune, qui font que le style marocain est ce qu'il est. Le thread Tlemçen en est la plus parfaite illustrations. Mais je maintiens ce que j'ai dit concernant la paternité du style "mauresque", tant en termes d'architecture que de localisation initiale. Tu confonds peut-être avec le style oriental, qui constitue une famille (plus large que le mauresque), qui appartient lui-même au style islamique, encore plus large. Sinon je pense qu'il ne faut pas raisonner en termes de gènes, comme te l'a dit Redalinho. Un ibérique sur 5 est d'ascendance nord-africaine, génétiquement parlant: cela en fait-il pour autant des arabes, des berbères ou des arabo-berbères?
D K no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
 
Old November 21st, 2009, 01:42 AM   #62
Rabat with love 2
Rabat
 
Rabat with love 2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Rabat - Morocco
Posts: 4,083
Likes (Received): 265

Quote:
Originally Posted by simohamed13 View Post
saalam khay rani labass wanta ki dayer? :)
lhamdoulah tana labass , merhaba bik mara tania m3ana
welcome back
Rabat with love 2 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2009, 09:26 PM   #63
Tetwani
BANNED
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: ⵟⴰⵏⵊⴰ ⵜⵉⵟⵟⴰⵡⵉ&#
Posts: 4,694
Likes (Received): 9

Quote:
Originally Posted by simohamed13 View Post
C'est les zenetes et les chleuh musulmans qui ont conquérit l'andalouie , avec tarik ibn zyad un berbere zenete de nedroma (pres de Tlemcen)
un "rifain" si tu prefere
Tu sais qu'il y a beaucoup de Zenetes au Maroc, dans le Rif
D'ailleurs le Rifain et très proche du Zenete.

On va arréter de parler de ça ici, c'est pas la bonne place.
Tetwani no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 9th, 2012, 06:22 AM   #64
Deco
Soteropolitano
 
Deco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: São Salvador - Bahia
Posts: 7,709
Likes (Received): 1218

Catholic Church at Salvador, Bahia, Brazil

Igreja da Lapinha - built in 1770
Have a look at my thread: 82 pictures: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...256&highlight=

Outside: neogothic style (newer part)


Outside: portuguese colonial style (older part)


Inside: totally moorish
55.


57. (they told me it's written in arabic: "this is the house of god; this is door of heaven" - is it correct?)


71.


80.


81.


Unfortunatelly, it's not in portuguese, but you can see the pictures.

The church firstly was build in front of the sea, but since a long time its entrance looks to the Caaba (Mecca).
People that work there told me that a long time ago it could be a mosque!

We don't know anything about this mistery: could have been built by islamic slaves, we don't know.

Last edited by Deco; April 9th, 2012 at 11:52 PM.
Deco no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 9th, 2012, 11:46 PM   #65
flyzone
Registered User
 
flyzone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Tineggi
Posts: 1,057
Likes (Received): 126

intresting ^^ didn't know that Andalousian architecture is present in bresil

the arabic script in that picture is thuluth script wich is not an andalousian one , that's very strange !!!

it's written : "this is only the house of God , and this is the door of heaven"
__________________
I DON'T GIVE A F*** ABOUT PALESTINE
flyzone no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 10th, 2012, 12:33 AM   #66
Deco
Soteropolitano
 
Deco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: São Salvador - Bahia
Posts: 7,709
Likes (Received): 1218

Quote:
Originally Posted by flyzone View Post
intresting ^^ didn't know that Andalousian architecture is present in bresil

the arabic script in that picture is thuluth script wich is not an andalousian one , that's very strange !!!

it's written : "this is only the house of God , and this is the door of heaven"
Thanks, flyzone!
Have a look to see other details!

The other moorish church (this one is completely moorish - inside and outside) is at Rio de Janeiro. Take a look.

Its name is: Basílica do Imaculado Coração de Maria


http://www.flickr.com/photos/53796524@N06/4974014059/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/claudio...n/photostream/
Deco no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 26th, 2012, 07:45 PM   #67
FlavorOfAlgeria
Registered User
 
FlavorOfAlgeria's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Annaba/Paris
Posts: 384
Likes (Received): 170

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redalinho View Post
Bardo (Algiers)

Dsl, c'est pas marocain du tout, comme les autres photos d'ailleurs, c'est de l'art islamique, seul deux ou trois endroits correspondent à l'art marocain aussi non le reste je vois rien qui est marocain surtout le musée Brado d'Alger construit par un prince tunisien exilé, d'inspiration ottomane la construction est pas marocaine du tout.
FlavorOfAlgeria no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2012, 07:59 PM   #68
chinoui
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 67
Likes (Received): 5

Arts islamique ou d inspiration islamique serait plus approprie pour ce top ça prête a confusion et ça peut déboussoler des gens qui ne connaissent pas l histoire

Continuer a poster j aime bcp
chinoui no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 29th, 2012, 03:38 PM   #69
The-s
Registered User
 
The-s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 6,661
Likes (Received): 2598

^^

Je suis d'accord puisque plusieurs sites postées dans ce thread ne sont pas Moorish du tout.
The-s está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old July 31st, 2012, 02:07 AM   #70
zazo,
Zeit
 
zazo,'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: München
Posts: 500
Likes (Received): 46

I never saw this thread, I got it due to a recomendation, cool, but you shouldn't talk about islamic art, it would be the same than talking about christian art, so many differences and so many origins.

But I'm afraid that the main elements posted as moroccan, are not.
For example, the excellent brick work is a development of the roman Spain, with better examples in the mediaeval ages.
_The horseshoe arch is super spanish, something really typical spanish, a creation of the celtiberian culture followed during the gothic times, there are dozens of churches from the V century in this style all over the country, with nice vegetal decorations in a very baroque way, (this baroque decorations would become higher in the andalousian islamic age), the colors red and white and the double arches come from the roman aqueducts linked with the celtiberian culture.

_We must remember that the iberian population was always there, and their art followed, evoluting with their rich culture, changing from one religion to another for 200 years, in a beginning the arrian christianism and the proto-islam was almost the same in concepts until the IX century, when Islam was encripted and the differences got bigger and official, more duties for the people (in this century there are dozens of revolutions in the andalousian cities because of this changes, some of these iberian citizens cross to the old roman province of Mauretania Tingitana (actual Morocco) and refounded some of the cities.
_The work in tiles is very traditional of the south of Spain, with good examples of the roman times, and also from the byzantine area (the oriental roman empire), which had very good relations with the south of Spain in that time.
_About the lobed arches, it has an andalousian origin following the iberian-roman tradition of some roman windows found in Cordoba, used firstly in the Temple of Cordoba (in that time Islam wasn't encripted yet) some investigators say that until IX century, the old roman pagan temple remodelated into an arrian temple was at the same time the temple of the proto-islamic, really similar religions (against the roman christianism and the trinitarian precepts, more common in the central-north Spain)
But evoluted into super baroque structures in the XII century including in this time oriental traditions which arrived to Mauretania Tingitana, recently occuped by a southern culture (some governors and an army) which form today Morocco. In this time we can talk thas this oriental influences made a local type of super baroque decorations, like the domes.
_It's hard to talk about a moorish architecture, a real one, since France occupied the north of Africa and every 'islamic architecture and art' was named as moorish when the romantic culture made every exotic topic into a fashionable topic, and Africa was exotic enough to take that name into that art.
_Every element arised in Spain following the ancient cultures with some influences but was exported all over the mediterranean and evoluted with it in each place, the same happened with the byzantian architecture.

So, some of the buildings should be called byzantian architecture in the world, and others, andalousian architecture in the world. 'Moorish architecture has been introduced by films and other things because of the exotic factor' In the schools of architecture be sure that the moorish archtiecture as a line doesn't exist.
This could be explained due to the late emergence of an urban culture ( which uses to create the science, culture and art), actually the only moroccan big city which existed in that time, was Tanger, because Tetuan was established as a city in XIV century on a small village, Fez in the IX century, Marrakech founded in the XI century, Rabat in the XII century on the ruins of a roman campament and fortification and Casablanca was a village around the XV century, abandoned during 300 years and created from zero in the XVIII century almost the XIX century.
So, it's hard for an historian and an architect to think that a moorish architecture could have been created in an area without an urban culture.

This is something to think about, don't you think so?
__________________
..................................................................................

Last edited by zazo,; July 31st, 2012 at 02:18 AM.
zazo, no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 26th, 2012, 03:45 PM   #71
The-s
Registered User
 
The-s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 6,661
Likes (Received): 2598

Plaza Virgen de los Reyes, Seville, Spain

The-s está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 03:43 PM   #72
The-s
Registered User
 
The-s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 6,661
Likes (Received): 2598

Nevada, 100 km Est from Las Vegas. USA

The-s está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old November 2nd, 2012, 06:04 AM   #73
teystoon
Live and Let Live !!
 
teystoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Orlando (Fez)
Posts: 3,914
Likes (Received): 166

^^ c'est l'hotel, resort, casino..etc etc Casablanca !!

image hosted on flickr

Casablanca Golf Club by TravelNevada, on Flickr

image hosted on flickr

Casablanca Resort- Mesquite Nevada by "Fast" Eddie Maloney, on Flickr

image hosted on flickr

Casablanca Resort-Mesquite Nevada by "Fast" Eddie Maloney, on Flickr

image hosted on flickr

CasaBlanca 2 by Marilyn M, on Flickr

image hosted on flickr

CasaBlanca 3 by Marilyn M, on Flickr
teystoon no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 2nd, 2012, 04:39 PM   #74
Gadiri
Moderator
 
Gadiri's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Paris-Agadir
Posts: 40,793
Likes (Received): 1573

Hotel Casablanca, avec la couleur ocre de Marrakech et les tuiles vertes de Fes. :crazy:
__________________
A must to see : Arabs and Hollywood <<<< =======

A ne pas rater : Les arabes et Hollywood <<<< =======


No te pierdas : Los árabes y Hollywood <<<< =======

Gadiri no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 4th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #75
The-s
Registered User
 
The-s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 6,661
Likes (Received): 2598

Seville, spain

Une beauté Architecturale !


Last edited by The-s; November 4th, 2012 at 12:38 AM.
The-s está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old November 4th, 2012, 12:36 AM   #76
The-s
Registered User
 
The-s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 6,661
Likes (Received): 2598

Toledo, Spain


Last edited by The-s; November 4th, 2012 at 04:04 PM.
The-s está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old November 4th, 2012, 12:47 AM   #77
The-s
Registered User
 
The-s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 6,661
Likes (Received): 2598

Sintra, Portugal

The-s está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old November 4th, 2012, 01:07 AM   #78
ElMarrakchi
I <3 Marrakech
 
ElMarrakchi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Paris/Meknès
Posts: 809
Likes (Received): 118

Amazing!
__________________
Morocco, the Land of Beauty.


VISIT SSC MOROCCO
ElMarrakchi no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 4th, 2012, 01:37 AM   #79
The-s
Registered User
 
The-s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 6,661
Likes (Received): 2598

Ronda, Spain

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElMarrakchi View Post
Amazing!
Indeed.

The-s está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old November 4th, 2012, 01:23 PM   #80
The-s
Registered User
 
The-s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 6,661
Likes (Received): 2598

Sevilla, Spain

The-s está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT +2. The time now is 06:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like v3.2.5 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu