Rank Of Density In U.S. States

Dariusb · March 26th, 2012, 09:25 PM

Are you surprised by your states rank?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...lation_density

mhays · March 26th, 2012, 09:34 PM

Another fun race to watch! Washington is #25 (though higher than average), and should catch Louisiana and Wisconsin in short order, though Texas should pass us soon after. Then we'll pass Kentucky. Then it would only take a few decades (if recent trends continue) to take the massive leap to New Hampshire level.

Dariusb · March 26th, 2012, 09:47 PM

Although I'm a Texas resident I was surprised we were #26 on the list. I thought it would be somewhere in the 30's.

hudkina · March 27th, 2012, 06:11 PM

If one were to exclude the Upper Peninsula from the rest of Michigan, the population density for the state would be 238.3 ppsm (9,572,279 in 40,161.74 sq. mi.). It would move up to #12, just behind California.

If you only included the much more urbanized lower half of the lower Peninsula (36 counties) you would get a density of 396.1 ppsm (8,722,341 in an area of 22,018.17 sq. mi.) That would put it at #8, just behind New York.

If you broke California into two separate states, South California (which includes the ten southern counties within the state) would have a density of 430.1 ppsm (22,505,482 in an area of 52,327.20 sq. mi.)

If downstate New York (the 13 southern counties within the state) separated from the rest of the state the density would be 1,988.5 ppsm (11,913,758 in an area of 5,991.36 sq. mi.) That would obviously be ranked #1.

Dariusb · March 27th, 2012, 06:36 PM

Wow! Very interesting stats.

GunnerJacket · March 27th, 2012, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hudkina

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And if I had a lot of money, I'd be rich! (Sorry, that was just too available.)

Your point is basically saying that density per state is a near useless measure, and you'd be correct. States are geopolitical boundaries with so many other variables at play that there is little we can do with the information, other than remind the world that NYC and New York State are indeed different entities.

A better measure would be seeing this by metro area or census tract, so you could read more discernably the growth patterns and, more importantly, begin to isolate those areas where development will most likely come into conflict with environmentally sensistive areas.

kopperlis123 · April 2nd, 2012, 06:13 AM

That is a great site! I saw the information is very usefule!

milquetoast · April 5th, 2012, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by hudkina

If downstate New York (the 13 southern counties within the state) separated from the rest of the state the density would be 1,988.5 ppsm (11,913,758 in an area of 5,991.36 sq. mi.) That would obviously be ranked #1.

Are you saying that the 13 counties comprising the New York City area

within the State is only 12 million people?

I think, ladies and gents, that we have our true New York metro

hudkina · April 5th, 2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by milquetoast

Are you saying that the 13 counties comprising the New York City area

within the State is only 12 million people?

I think, ladies and gents, that we have our true New York metro

Yeah... no...

***Bond James Bond*** · April 6th, 2012, 03:18 AM

I thought Rhode Island would be first.

Dariusb · April 7th, 2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kopperlis123

That is a great site! I saw the information is very usefule!

Cool!

CincyBearcats · April 10th, 2012, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bond James Bond

I thought Rhode Island would be first.

I thought it was not too long ago. Maybe a declining population has added to the loss of first place.

Nexis · April 10th, 2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond James Bond

I thought Rhode Island would be first.

They have alot of open space and farms....not as Developed as Jersey.

CincyBearcats · April 11th, 2012, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nexis

They have alot of open space and farms....not as Developed as Jersey.

I believe this, but when I was in Rhode Island, Providence and its suburbs took up a big part of the state aka.... sprawl. I have found southern Jersey to be quite rural and peaceful as well.

nicholasrudar · September 16th, 2012, 06:12 AM

Los Angeles Metro has the highest density rates, even more than NYC

LA - 2,645/Sq.Mi.
NYC - 1,865/Sq.Mi.

But for city limits...thats a different story

jbkayaker12 · September 16th, 2012, 12:14 PM

I love NV's ranking, you can visit but make sure to go home. In Clark County I don't want congested streets, parks and recreational areas, utility offices, shopping areas..........
If I want to see people by thousands, I'll go for a short drive from suburbia to the Strip.

***musiccity*** · September 17th, 2012, 05:39 AM

Mississippi is 63/sqm not surprising. Were the 2nd most sparsely populated Southern State after Arkansas.

diablo234 · September 17th, 2012, 04:39 PM

Obviously the more rural the state, the less density there would be with exceptions for states with larger land areas such as Colorado and Utah where 90% of the population lives within a certain land area such as the Front Range or Wasatch Front.

600West218 · September 17th, 2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nicholasrudar

Los Angeles Metro has the highest density rates, even more than NYC

LA - 2,645/Sq.Mi.
NYC - 1,865/Sq.Mi.

But for city limits...thats a different story

WHere do these numbers come from? I would imagine this depends on how the respective metro areas are definied.

hudkina · September 17th, 2012, 06:25 PM

Yeah. Technically, the Los Angeles MSA includes just Los Angeles and Orange counties. Together they have a population of 12,828,837 in an area of 4,848.45 sq. mi. with a density of 2,646 ppsm. Granted if you use the Los Angeles CSA, you get a population of 17,877,006 in an area of 33,955 sq. mi. for a density of 526 ppsm. That includes thousands of square miles of empty desert, though.

March 27th, 2012, 06:11 PM	#4
hudkina Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 4,570 Likes (Received): 8	If one were to exclude the Upper Peninsula from the rest of Michigan, the population density for the state would be 238.3 ppsm (9,572,279 in 40,161.74 sq. mi.). It would move up to #12, just behind California. If you only included the much more urbanized lower half of the lower Peninsula (36 counties) you would get a density of 396.1 ppsm (8,722,341 in an area of 22,018.17 sq. mi.) That would put it at #8, just behind New York. If you broke California into two separate states, South California (which includes the ten southern counties within the state) would have a density of 430.1 ppsm (22,505,482 in an area of 52,327.20 sq. mi.) If downstate New York (the 13 southern counties within the state) separated from the rest of the state the density would be 1,988.5 ppsm (11,913,758 in an area of 5,991.36 sq. mi.) That would obviously be ranked #1. Last edited by hudkina; March 27th, 2012 at 06:19 PM.

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diablo234 Oh No He Didn't Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Houston-Tejas-Estados Unidos Posts: 4,220	Obviously the more rural the state, the less density there would be with exceptions for states with larger land areas such as Colorado and Utah where 90% of the population lives within a certain land area such as the Front Range or Wasatch Front. __________________ T E X A S --PHOTO COLLECTION-- Disclaimer: I am not sexist, racist, or prejudiced in any way or form. I hate everyone equally.

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March 26th, 2012, 09:25 PM	#1
Dariusb Formerly known as Bigboyz Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texarkana, Tx Posts: 265 Likes (Received): 0	Rank Of Density In U.S. States Are you surprised by your states rank? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...lation_density

March 26th, 2012, 09:34 PM	#2
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,382 Likes (Received): 119	Another fun race to watch! Washington is #25 (though higher than average), and should catch Louisiana and Wisconsin in short order, though Texas should pass us soon after. Then we'll pass Kentucky. Then it would only take a few decades (if recent trends continue) to take the massive leap to New Hampshire level.

March 26th, 2012, 09:47 PM	#3
Dariusb Formerly known as Bigboyz Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texarkana, Tx Posts: 265 Likes (Received): 0	Although I'm a Texas resident I was surprised we were #26 on the list. I thought it would be somewhere in the 30's.

March 27th, 2012, 06:36 PM	#5
Dariusb Formerly known as Bigboyz Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texarkana, Tx Posts: 265 Likes (Received): 0	Wow! Very interesting stats.

April 2nd, 2012, 06:13 AM	#7
kopperlis123 BANNED Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1 Likes (Received): 0	That is a great site! I saw the information is very usefule!

September 16th, 2012, 06:12 AM	#15
nicholasrudar LosAngeles97 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 13 Likes (Received): 0	Los Angeles Metro has the highest density rates, even more than NYC LA - 2,645/Sq.Mi. NYC - 1,865/Sq.Mi. But for city limits...thats a different story

September 16th, 2012, 12:14 PM	#16
jbkayaker12 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LV NV USA Posts: 6,681 Likes (Received): 2	I love NV's ranking, you can visit but make sure to go home. In Clark County I don't want congested streets, parks and recreational areas, utility offices, shopping areas.......... If I want to see people by thousands, I'll go for a short drive from suburbia to the Strip.

September 17th, 2012, 06:25 PM	#20
hudkina Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 4,570 Likes (Received): 8	Yeah. Technically, the Los Angeles MSA includes just Los Angeles and Orange counties. Together they have a population of 12,828,837 in an area of 4,848.45 sq. mi. with a density of 2,646 ppsm. Granted if you use the Los Angeles CSA, you get a population of 17,877,006 in an area of 33,955 sq. mi. for a density of 526 ppsm. That includes thousands of square miles of empty desert, though.