FJORDCITY | The big Fjordcity thread!

[dexter26]

Strange, wasn't that the building rendered with red bricks earlier? I wasn't jumping for joy about that one either, but even that looked better or at least more interesting, than this new render did.

[IceCheese]

I think you're confusing two projects. The previous propsal for this building was a glass-box. The red-brick building is in B13, part of the barcodes: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1010083

[OnTheNorthRoad]

This appears to a real troublesome location. We are so bad at planning in this country/city. Who thought that Hotel Opera and Oslo Atrium would make a suitable entrance to fjordcity? They're not far from ruining big parts of DEG. And people complain about barcode..

Anyways, this looks like Oslo Atrium's little beach house, so I guess there's some symmetry given that also the hotel has a mini-me next to it. I don't really see a solution; maybe a tall, slim apartment complex could have suited, but it would break with many principles, so it's not realistic. If they just bulldozed Opera and Atrium, and gave the owners sqm in the height..

[Osloborger]

I think it looks fine. I was surprised that something would be built there at all. Seems sleek enough. The ground floor does not contribute anything to the public in general which is a shame, but appart from that it gets my "approval". I am assuming the material quality will be good.

[IceCheese]

Cladding is the same as Oslo atrium: http://kart.finn.no/?lng=10.75557&la...eetViewState=1

[Callsign]

It so not that bad! A tall one would make a mess out of Oslo Atrium. Better to have one that is not competing with Atrium, only completing it. Western side of nylandsveien/bridge is not going to a real part of Barcode anyway. Go for this one, but I would like a project from Thon/Watrium over the entrance for the Oslo S parking. A sharp, thin, tall, black officebuilding in between the hotel and Atrium to fill in, in a cool way though.

[Hurban]

It just looks out of place! Change the massive brick wall facing to the street (!) and make it twice the height, it could be interesting. But thumbs down from over here..

On the other hand, i think Hotel Oprea is not as bad as bad as other stuff being built! It has some rather ugly features yes, but it is non intrusive with some classical lines and urban qualities. And the fake marble thing will match the opera in some years! The Atrium is such a UGLY monster it would even look shit in Nydalen. Very hostile. Ugh.. It needs to go.

[Callsign]

And by the way, the ground floor is supposed to be a cafe...

[Callsign]

Great fun! I like Atrium better than the opera hotel! Atrium has a silent calmness over it. Quiet and classic design, yet big. A bit boring, but it could have been there for ages.
Opera hotel is at best just wrong, cheap, and basically gives me nothing. Give me a refurbishment with black glass instead of the horrible staircases on the southpart, and i will accept it.

[Hurban]

I hear you on the cheapness part and totally agree, Maybe and Thon has built cheap to rebuild in the future, maybe even not too long ? (hope)

I agree that the atrium has some decent court like / tyrrell bulding ellements to it but I find it far too alienating and the sides makes it look like it belongs in a industrial estate or business park... imo

Comparing the two in google street (Atrium with least favorable angle)


both rather rubbish but i find Thon less so due to urban qualities.

[Galro]

I agree. The Atrium just looks like a bland, massive box. It really don't deserve the spot close to such great modern architecture like the Opera and soon the new library. Hotel Opera manages to its size rather well at least.

[Callsign]

I still think Atrium solves the office block question better than the Thon hotell solves the hotel issue.

[Osloborger]

Originally Posted by Hurban

And the fake marble thing will match the opera in some years!

Fake marble? It is a type of stone. Not fake anything.

Anyway, the hotell has a good entrance/ground floor with a nice big classic hotell lobby and bar. It's the floors from 1st and up that looks bad.

[Hurban]

Originally Posted by Osloborger

Fake marble? It is a type of stone. Not fake anything.

i stand corrected.

[OnTheNorthRoad]

I agree with callsign that Atrium is the least ugly building as a stand-alone, but it has little to do in the new Bjørvika bydel, and in comparison to the Barcode-buildings, it's just an ugly, massive box, that belongs in Bryn/Helsfyr/Nydalen. It's such an irony that Torp is among barcode's strongest critics, when he's responsible for Atrium.

The Hotel Opera, to me, is just unbearably ugly and cheap, especially seen from a distance. The ground floor is okay, but it just crashes when it tries to emulate two towers and a setback in between. The lines are really awkward, in my opinion.

[starkwell]

i think they've planned this back to front - why not have the curving glass side facing out onto the road, following the curve of the up ramp? who wants a big glass wall facing the atrium when it sould be facing the opera and the sea and ekeberg?

30 seconds work in PSP and it already looks better...

[Galro]

Then it reminds of the brutally ugly "older" parts of Oslo City.

[Hurban]

Originally Posted by starkwell

i think they've planned this back to front - why not have the curving glass side facing out onto the road, following the curve of the up ramp? who wants a big glass wall facing the atrium when it sould be facing the opera and the sea and ekeberg?

30 seconds work in PSP and it already looks better...

Indeed my thoughts exactly..! why have the brick wall to the street??

[OnTheNorthRoad]

Vegvesenet wants to begin construction of the bridge carrying DEG over Akerselva, but they struggle to get through the formalities of bureaucracy (http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no...fileid=3519154).

Earlier they estimated construction start in february/march and finalization within the end of the year, but we won't see anything of akerselva until the entire allmenning is finished. (http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no...fileid=3335154). Additionally they stipulated that DEG east of akerselva should be finished and taken in use by autumn 2013. That's surprisingly soon to me. Would be great.

The bridge over Akerselva will have an enlighted walking path beneath it following akerselva, as part of akerselva-allmenningen.

[mjoks007]

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