Kicking Iraq when it's down.

[Basrawii]

na... ANAL F***ING iraq when its down... or whatever worse than that...

[Chounz]

Originally Posted by Basrawii

na... ANAL F***ING iraq when its down... or whatever worse than that...

Raping is obviously worse than anal fu*king!!!!!!!!

One is consensual sex while the other one is RAPE!!!!


God you are so stupid.

[Basrawii]

i dunno... same both ways....

[SumerianKing]

Prepare to be pissed off, some of you already might know this.
President of the ministry of transportation has no experience in the transportation sector as he’s an x sergeant.
President of the ministry of finance is a dentist.
The way it works is that when they formed the new government, they put the Kurds in all the highest positions of most ministries and put 2 guys under him, 1 shia and 1 sunni. (they said FUCK experience)
Now you know why progress is so slow. The president of ministry of transportation only comes in about 3 times a week, lazy as crap, pockets over $25000 a month, and barely does anything.
I'l leave the rest for you to think about.
I have nothing against kurds, but kurds have been given all the highest positions in the government and ministries, the president is a kurd, the first lady of Iraq is one, etc etc. The real problem about this is simply that over 95% of Kurds don’t want anything to do with Iraq, they don’t want to be part of us. And yet they have been given such positions. It’s funny that they keep on complaining.
We will always be kicked down.

[sheytanElKebir]

but sumerianking the ministers of transport and finance are arabs.

[Ali - Iraq]

Originally Posted by SumerianKing

Prepare to be pissed off, some of you already might know this.
President of the ministry of transportation has no experience in the transportation sector as he’s an x sergeant.
President of the ministry of finance is a dentist.
The way it works is that when they formed the new government, they put the Kurds in all the highest positions of most ministries and put 2 guys under him, 1 shia and 1 sunni. (they said FUCK experience)
Now you know why progress is so slow. The president of ministry of transportation only comes in about 3 times a week, lazy as crap, pockets over $25000 a month, and barely does anything.
I'l leave the rest for you to think about.
I have nothing against kurds, but kurds have been given all the highest positions in the government and ministries, the president is a kurd, the first lady of Iraq is one, etc etc. The real problem about this is simply that over 95% of Kurds don’t want anything to do with Iraq, they don’t want to be part of us. And yet they have been given such positions. It’s funny that they keep on complaining.
We will always be kicked down.

I feel you bro. However i wouldn't say that they have the higest positions in Iraq but they do have some posts. On the other hand Arabs in the Kurdish territories don't have any positions in the kurdish government which is sad. I mean seriously this government doesn't give a shit about Iraq. If they did then the kurdish members shouldn't even be a part of the Iraqi government. But you have to remember that those politicians work for America anyway so why should they give a shit? This wouldn't have happened if Saddam was in power..

[sheytanElKebir]

Originally Posted by Ali - Iraq

I feel you bro. However i wouldn't say that they have the higest positions in Iraq but they do have some posts. On the other hand Arabs in the Kurdish territories don't have any positions in the kurdish government which is sad. I mean seriously this government doesn't give a shit about Iraq. If they did then the kurdish members shouldn't even be a part of the Iraqi government. But you have to remember that those politicians work for America anyway so why should they give a shit? This wouldn't have happened if it was Saddam who was in power..

you don't give up, do you!

[Ali - Iraq]

hehe hell no!

[fazl1991]

Originally Posted by sheytanElKebir

you don't give up, do you!

no he wont I all ready had the speech with him

[iraqishi3i]

Originally Posted by Ali - Iraq

This wouldn't have happened if Saddam was in power..

Are you actually serious? ive been waiting for the day a Ba3thi comes to this Forum... seriousley wtf are you on about? what you are saying is offensive to anyone whos had a relative killed because of that fucking dog whos gonna burn for his crimes. him and his jama3a where the scummiest people to live on Earth and single handedly destroyed Iraq ... listen all you want to the ba3this who say Saddam made Iraq strong but after that go listen to the ordinary people who lived under saddam... go listen to how they were too afraid to say anything in public and if they did they would just "dissapear" talk to them about how a doctors wage in that time was peanuts and how people barely lived and how millions of people were killed and displaced by him ... if it wasnt for that fucking dickhead then we would all still be in Iraq enjoying the beauty of our country but instead were forced to sit in countries outside Iraq and watch americans invaed our country to remove a tool THEY PUT IN POWER THEMSELVES so dont try saying the current goverment works for America because Saddam was the biggest american tool when they told him to do something he would do it but only when he started getting cocky did they come in and fuck him up. I really hope that you are not a ba3thi who likes saddam but if you are please
dont bother writing anything about him unless its celebrating his death because if anyone fucked up Iraq it was him oh and a little something for all the ba3this in this forum:

[Ali - Iraq]

First of all i'm not baathi. Secondly it's haram to expose a video of a man being hanged when you are saying that Saddam was bad then try to be a better man than he was. Thirdly i have spoken to a lot of people who were persecuted by Saddam. Some of them say, that they regret being a part of the revolt against Saddam. So when i'm defending Saddam sometimes it's by experience what i heard of him and know. Do you seriously think that Saddam would have allowed the kurd's to sit next to him in the Iraqi government?

[haiderpass]

Ali - Iraq, please for the love of ****, just shut the fuck up, you are without a doubt the most arrogant and pathetic troll on this forum. you have repeated this many times and have received the same answer from almost everyone here. saddam WAS A DICTATOR. HE COMMITTED GENOCIDE. HE WAS A BASTARD (literally) WHO DESERVED WORSE THAN WHAT HE GOT. STOP FUCKEN DEFENDING HIM.
also whats wrong with a kurd sitting next to the PM. though many of us here are opposed to barazani and his separatist, dictatorial tendencies, we have nothing against kurds in general, there was no need for that racist statement.

if you seriously arnt a baathi/baathi lover as you claim, stop acting like one. stop justified the acts of a murderer. im sure im not the only one who finds your praise of him offensive, and ive personally lost family members to the bastard.

[Sinjar]

Originally Posted by SumerianKing

The way it works is that when they formed the new government, they put the Kurds in all the highest positions of most ministries and put 2 guys under him, 1 shia and 1 sunni. (they said FUCK experience)

In all high positions?

Check this: http://carnegieendowment.org/publications/special/misc/iraqielections2010/iraqCabinet.pdf

You would realize that there is not many Kurdish ministers as you (like to) think..
1 of 3 Deputy Ministers is Kurdish.
1 of 6 Sovereign Ministers is Kurdish.
4 of 23 Ministers are Kurdish.
1 of 12 State of Ministers is Kurdish.
1 of 3 Parliament Speakers is Kurdish.(Second Deputy, lowest one)

The cabinet has also changed. Zebari is for instance not anymore the Minister of Women's Affairs.

And those ministers you mentioned are not even Kurdish ones.

[Ali - Iraq]

Originally Posted by haiderpass

Ali - Iraq, please for the love of ****, just shut the fuck up, you are without a doubt the most arrogant and pathetic troll on this forum. you have repeated this many times and have received the same answer from almost everyone here. saddam WAS A DICTATOR. HE COMMITTED GENOCIDE. HE WAS A BASTARD (literally) WHO DESERVED WORSE THAN WHAT HE GOT. STOP FUCKEN DEFENDING HIM.
also whats wrong with a kurd sitting next to the PM. though many of us here are opposed to barazani and his separatist, dictatorial tendencies, we have nothing against kurds in general, there was no need for that racist statement.

if you seriously arnt a baathi/baathi lover as you claim, stop acting like one. stop justified the acts of a murderer. im sure im not the only one who finds your praise of him offensive, and ive personally lost family members to the bastard.

Why do you curse? i'm not justifying and please if you can't write decent english then don't talk to me. I won't listen to someone who curse for no reason. This is democracy or you got? I have the liberty to bring up any subject i want and discuss it.

[Ali - Iraq]

Originally Posted by Sinjar

In all high positions?

Check this: http://carnegieendowment.org/publications/special/misc/iraqielections2010/iraqCabinet.pdf

You would realize that there is not many Kurdish ministers as you (like to) think..
1 of 3 Deputy Ministers is Kurdish.
1 of 6 Sovereign Ministers is Kurdish.
4 of 23 Ministers are Kurdish.
1 of 12 State of Ministers is Kurdish.
1 of 3 Parliament Speakers is Kurdish.(Second Deputy, lowest one)

The cabinet has also changed. Zebari is for instance not anymore the Minister of Women's Affairs.

And those ministers you mentioned are not even Kurdish ones.

Yeah but at least there are some Kurdish ministers. The problem is not whether they are kurdish or not, the problem is that they don't care about Iraq which they have expressed clearly.

[Sinjar]

Originally Posted by Ali - Iraq

On the other hand Arabs in the Kurdish territories don't have any positions in the kurdish government which is sad.

KRG is still officially part of Iraq, so Kurds in the mentioned area can participate in the Iraqi elections. The Kurdish parties won over 20% in the last election. Al Maliki made a coalition with them so they naturally granted some ministries.

Do you know how many Arabs live in KRG? Any Arab can participate in the elections. So it's not like they forbid Arabs to have posts in KRG but there are few Arabs living in KRG and most of them are displaced due to the instability in Iraq. Minorities also have granted seats in the parliament just like in Iraq.

Originally Posted by Ali - Iraq

I mean seriously this government doesn't give a shit about Iraq. If they did then the kurdish members shouldn't even be a part of the Iraqi government.

So if the Kurds were not part of the Iraqi government things will be all right? Anyway blame Al-Maliki for that..

Originally Posted by Ali - Iraq

But you have to remember that those politicians work for America anyway so why should they give a shit?

No they work for the interest of KRG. Why is it allowed for Turkey and Iraq to have relations with the USA but not for the KRG?

If the USA and KRG really are so strong allies you wouldn't see Anfal and Halabja. You wouldn't see the killing of thousands of Kurds by their weapons while they ignore it..

Originally Posted by Ali - Iraq

This wouldn't have happened if Saddam was in power..

Luckily not cause you wouldn't see the majority of Iraq having any influence..

[Sinjar]

Originally Posted by Ali - Iraq

Secondly it's haram to expose a video of a man being hanged when you are saying that Saddam was bad then try to be a better man than he was.

Why is it haram to show a video with such an evil man being hanged? Saddam did the same and Iran also show the hanging of people being hanged publicly so why is it haram?

Originally Posted by Ali - Iraq

Do you seriously think that Saddam would have allowed the kurd's to sit next to him in the Iraqi government?

The ja7sh Taha Yassin Ramadan was Kurdish

[SumerianKing]

I dont care if theirt kurds in that position, Im focusing on the concept of how the selection process was. It was strongly based on secterian lines not the expeirence of the individual.

[Sinjar]

Originally Posted by Ali - Iraq

the problem is that they don't care about Iraq which they have expressed clearly.

prove it.

[Sinjar]

Originally Posted by SumerianKing

I dont care if theirt kurds in that position, Im focusing on the concept of how the selection process was. It was strongly based on secterian lines not the expeirence of the individual.

Then why did you mention all the incorrect stuff?

Anyway I agree the politics in Iraq is heavily influenced by sectarianism.