Midtown/Edgewater and Omni/Arts & Entertainment District

[casamagda]

Originally Posted by UMdev

And unlike you I'm actually an active participant in development.

Is that a fact, or are you guessing again?

Would you be willing to bet $5,000 that I'm not an active participant in development?

Seriously...just stop.

[UMdev]

Originally Posted by casamagda

Certainly it is one way.
My prefered method is to find people that actually know, ask them, then listen to what they have to say.

If, for instance, I wanted to know how much money a banquet waiter makes at the Epic Hotel, I pick up the phone, call the person that pays them, and ask the question. I find it the best way to find out how much a banquet waiter at Epic makes.

Some people will search the Internet and find the Federal Government website that talks about average income from banquet waiters.
They are two different methods...I think one is better than the other.

As it relates to pricing at MyBrickell, I use the internal and confidential price lists, not the "price ranges" from 2011 that were available to the general public.

You are so full of it. I work in development and it just doesn't work like that. In development we rely on data collected from certain companies to make decisions.

Examples:

REIS: we pay REIS $15k+ a year for their data. If I want to know the effective rental rates for all apartment buildings in a 5 mile radius then I stick that address in get the rates. REIS spend all their time and effort calling each individual apartment to verify their rate.

For demographic information we use PCensus. Theybcompile all the demographic information from census, IRS, claritas, etc. If I want to know the median household income with a 3 mile radius or how much they spend on starbucks then I plug in the address and print the report.

So not only is your example about banquet waiters stupid, because first off not every place is going to pay the same. When I worked as a construction manager I knew people make $50k less and $50k more than me.

But it would be a complete waist of time. As someone working in development I'm not going to know everything about everything. So for banquet server wages, yes I'm going to look at the Bureau of labor statistics to see how much banquet servers make in Miami. Spending all day on the phone trying to call various banquet servers managers is completely inefficient. Just like I'm not going to call every office building in the area to see what they're lease rates are. I'm going to pay REIS who spends hunders of thousands of dollars compiling that information and simply print the report.

I don't think Sam Zell spends his time calling up banquet server managers to argue with people on the internet.

[PeterSmith]

Calling the guy who pays the banquet waiters instead of just calling the banquet waiters themselves?

Betting $5,000 on an internet message board?

Mitt...? Is that you...?

[casamagda]

Originally Posted by PeterSmith

Calling the guy who pays the banquet waiters instead of just calling the banquet waiters themselves?

Betting $5,000 on an internet message board?

Mitt...? Is that you...?

I like to fire people.

[PeterSmith]

Originally Posted by casamagda

I like to fire people.

I've never had the pleasure. I work in government, so we just have to wait for people to die at their desk.

[casamagda]

Originally Posted by UMdev

You are so full of it.

Are you sure or are you just guessing again?

Originally Posted by UMdev

And unlike you I'm actually an active participant in development.

Are you sure or are you just guessing?

Perhaps before you start name calling, "correcting" and "nitpicking" accurate data, you should stop and think deeply before making wild guesses.

When I said that MyBrickell is selling for $400/sq. that is becuase it is. Fact.
When you corrected my post and said $300/sq. you said because it was from a 4 month old price range list.

[casamagda]

Originally Posted by PeterSmith

Betting $5,000 on an internet message board?

Getting people to put their money where their mouth is accomplishes one of two things...they either stop making ridiculous comments not based in fact, or they get penalized.
Maybe I should have started at a lower amount?

[casamagda]

That was a Romney quote, firing people is the worst. But the truth is, most people fire themselves.

Originally Posted by PeterSmith

I've never had the pleasure. I work in government, so we just have to wait for people to die at their desk.

That's interesting...and when they die, does their production go down?

[PeterSmith]

Originally Posted by casamagda

That was a Romney quote, firing people is the worst. But the truth is, most people fire themselves.

I’m aware it was a Romney quote; I’ve been to weknowmemes.

Originally Posted by casamagda

That's interesting...and when they die, does their production go down?

It depends. If their head lands on the right keys on the way down, productivity may actually increase.

[UMdev]

Originally Posted by casamagda

Getting people to put their money where their mouth is accomplishes one of two things...they either stop making ridiculous comments not based in fact, or they get penalized.
Maybe I should have started at a lower amount?

Okay, so I bet you $10,000 (in true Mitt fashion) that your a peon.

I find it profoundly funny that a person posting anonymously on the internet takes takes this serious enough to bet.

[PeterSmith]

HEY GUYS! NO BETTING UNTIL THE DESTINATIONS RESORTS BILL PASSES!

[CalleOchoGringo]

This thread is what happens when the unarguable force meets the immutabe object.

[casamagda]

Originally Posted by UMdev

Okay, so I bet you $10,000 (in true Mitt fashion) that your a peon.

Deal...meet me in person Mr. "And unlike you I'm actually an active participant in development."

[DeeDub]

Originally Posted by pawnmaster

Dunno but they do upkeep the area (cut grass etc). So looks like they are trying to keep it in "show" condition. With the huge publix success I'm sure they are getting ideas but really as great as those lots are I can't even think of what should go there. Anyone?

I would have said a movie theater, but that doesn't really make sense with the one being built at Met Square in the CBD and another planned for Midtown. If it gets its gambling authorization, I would think Genting would want those lots as part of its overall plan for the area. Other than that, I don't know. I am not sure about the zoning there, but office space doesn't make sense there. A pedestrian-friendly area with bars and restaurants would be nice but there are already two spots for that at Paramount Bay (one on N. Bayshore and the other at Biscayne). I'm very interested in seeing what goes into those spots.

[CalleOchoGringo]

Don't forget the theaters that will be incorporated into Brickell Citicenter.

It seems more and more that as soon as all this stuff is build, many downtown residents really won't have to leave the area or get in their cars to go anywhere for days at a time. Especially if they work downtown as well (as many currently do). For most of them the concept of traffic will be, how many people are in the elevator from the lobby to the floor they work on, or how many people are waiting to be seated and that hot new bistro on the corner of the highrise they live in.

[CF221]

Originally Posted by CalleOchoGringo

Don't forget the theaters that will be incorporated into Brickell Citicenter.

It seems more and more that as soon as all this stuff is build, many downtown residents really won't have to leave the area or get in their cars to go anywhere for days at a time. Especially if they work downtown as well (as many currently do). For most of them the concept of traffic will be, how many people are in the elevator from the lobby to the floor they work on, or how many people are waiting to be seated and that hot new bistro on the corner of the highrise they live in.

That will be a huge relief to this city.

[lonnypaul]

Volvo has setup shop in Bicentennial Park with an entire village for the event.


Earth-work has already started for the new Miami Science Museum and progress continues on the Miami Art Museum.

Museum Park Construction Update 5-5-12

[DeeDub]

Originally Posted by CalleOchoGringo

Don't forget the theaters that will be incorporated into Brickell Citicenter.

It seems more and more that as soon as all this stuff is build, many downtown residents really won't have to leave the area or get in their cars to go anywhere for days at a time. Especially if they work downtown as well (as many currently do). For most of them the concept of traffic will be, how many people are in the elevator from the lobby to the floor they work on, or how many people are waiting to be seated and that hot new bistro on the corner of the highrise they live in.

It will be interesting to see if the Miami Trolley gets any traction. Although much of it covers the same route as the Metromover, people may (or may not) be more likely to use it since they don't have to go up on the platform to wait for it and its stops are a little closer together and right on Brickell/Biscayne.

[pawnmaster]

Ducati bikes coming to midtown this yr!

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/0...s-wynwood.html

[QuantumX]

Originally Posted by CalleOchoGringo

Don't forget the theaters that will be incorporated into Brickell Citicenter.

It seems more and more that as soon as all this stuff is build, many downtown residents really won't have to leave the area or get in their cars to go anywhere for days at a time. Especially if they work downtown as well (as many currently do). For most of them the concept of traffic will be, how many people are in the elevator from the lobby to the floor they work on, or how many people are waiting to be seated and that hot new bistro on the corner of the highrise they live in.

This is the whole idea behind the mixed-use development and why I think it is the wave of the future, especially here in Miami with our lack of mass transit options. The ideal is for people to be able to live, work, and play all in the same building or complex of buildings. I've always been a strong proponent of the mixed-use structure as many here already know.

I got a taste of that when I lived at Forte Towers on Miami Beach in the 90's (now the Mirador, the Mondrian, and I don't know what happened with the north tower). The south tower, where I lived, had a convenience store, a beauty salon, and a doctor's office as well other offices. There was a conference room where they showed movies every Friday night, and in the north Tower, there was a gym as well as another convenience store. The complex of buildings was connected by one huge underground parking garage, and if it was raining, you could go to the gym, the other convenience or visit somebody in one of the other towers simply by walking through the parking garage without getting wet. If it rained too hard for too long though, the garage flooded, and they had security staff valeting cars.