The Falkland Islands

[Shogun3]

Originally Posted by gothicform

the argentines are completely insane.

If I take UK and I kill all the cultural elite of the country, what will remain? Probably an insane country.

This is the recent history of Argentina.

[elpibe]

Originally Posted by beaky

i quoted your statement " We, the enlightened West, distinguish ourselves for not attaching a superstitious value to monuments and memorials. So long as the place is not damaged, any person may do as they wish." because it was to your statement that i was referring .
in the enlightened west a person may not do as they wish to monuments and memorials so long as it is not damaged.

since you mentioned false analogies? do you not equate the enemy of fallen war dead making a political statement out of exercising on a war memorial with me pissing on your mothers grave stone? why not? they are perfectly analogous. we are very different people indeed.

It'll be better if you start looking at home, you will find more than that to complain about......Vandalised war memorial replaced



It seems prevalent in your culture to do this in a regular basics all around the world doesn't matter in what country you culture resides the behavior is the same.....FYI it doesn't happen here.

[elpibe]

Originally Posted by SO143

Argentina’s foreign minister refuses to apologise for Falkland Islands Olympics video

Argentina’s foreign minister has refused to apologise for the advert that shows an athlete training on “Argentine soil” in the Falkland Islands and launched an attack on Phillip Hammond.

Responding to calls from the Defence Secretary for an apology over the controversial spot, Héctor Timerman said: “Mr Hammond should know that the world is safer when we use our creativity, rather than bomb civilians in sovereign countries.”

The advert shows Fernando Zylberberg, an Argentine hockey player, preparing in Stanley for the upcoming Olympics, before presenting the viewer with the slogan “To compete on English soil, we train on Argentine soil.”

Despite a request from WPP – the British agency of which Young & Rubicam, who created the spot, is a subsidiary – to pull the advert, the Argentine government will continue to broadcast it.

Mr Timerman, who took Argentina’s sovereignty claim to the Falklands to the UN and has criticised Britain’s “militarisation” of the South Atlantic, said Mr Hammond is an “adversary of whom to be fearful”.

He said: “I imagine that, since he assumed his role as Defence Secretary, Mr Hammond has been so busy controlling the many British soldiers at war that he has not had time to read Margaret Atwood, born in one of his former colonies, who in 1993 wrote: ‘War is what happens when language fails.’”

[...]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ics-video.html

Why he should?....

Your governments should apology for stealing what belongs to us.

"They were offended by a TV spot that reflect the sentiment of the Argentines"



This is how Christina de Kirchner commented on criticism by a British official on the television spot filmed in the Falkland Malvinas Islands.
"They can not condemn creativity," she said. "An offense is plundering the resources, not respecting the memory of the fallen and the UN resolutions. Now, that yes it is provocative," she launched. She also congratulated the company staff for the creative work done.

[gothicform]

Originally Posted by elpibe

It'll be better if you start looking at home, you will find more than that to complain about......Vandalised war memorial replaced



It seems prevalent in your culture to do this in a regular basics all around the world doesn't matter in what country you culture resides the behavior is the same.....FYI it doesn't happen here.

eh??? did you even read it. are you saying because a couple of criminals do something in the UK that that is justification for argentinas actions? are you really comparing the captain of the argentine olympic hockey team to a vandal? are you suggesting that he should be arrested and prosecuted? that there should be a police investigation? what's your point? do you even have one?

perhaps you are in fact suggesting that because a criminal in one country does something then it's ok for the government of another country to do something too?????????????

[abraham]

Originally Posted by SO143

only silly country would want to illegally invade the falkland islands which are protected by the awesome british armed forces

Iraq: British 'abandoned Basra to terror'

The British Army was defeated in Basra and abandoned its citizens to be terrorised by rogue militias, two senior American officers have said.

Awsome indeed.

[gothicform]

as basra is OK now unlike some parts of iraq, it seems the british made the right choice, something that was not apparent when that article was written two years ago. seeing jumped up american colonels complaining we didn't fight indefinitely is pathetic. the militia leader responsible is even in prison now. it's an odd species of victory isn't it where your enemy ends up in prison, and peace reigns in the place you withdrew from with it being governed by exactly who you want.

[desertswo]

Originally Posted by gothicform

as basra is OK now unlike some parts of iraq, it seems the british made the right choice, something that was not apparent when that article was written two years ago. seeing jumped up american colonels complaining we didn't fight indefinitely is pathetic. the militia leader responsible is even in prison now. it's an odd species of victory isn't it where your enemy ends up in prison, and peace reigns in the place you withdrew from with it being governed by exactly who you want.

Why are you dragging us into this?

[abraham]

Originally Posted by gothicform

as basra is OK now unlike some parts of iraq, it seems the british made the right choice, something that was not apparent when that article was written two years ago. seeing jumped up american colonels complaining we didn't fight indefinitely is pathetic. the militia leader responsible is even in prison now. it's an odd species of victory isn't it where your enemy ends up in prison, and peace reigns in the place you withdrew from with it being governed by exactly who you want.

I don't know; go complain with your American mastersfriends.

[beaky]

i keep hearing cfk or argie ambassadors like Alicia Castro, appealing to britain to ' give peace a chance '

i don't understand what is meant by this. there is peace. argentina keeps trying to provoke britain or rally support against britain, and britain in return does its best to ignore argentina.

abraham elipe why am i hearing from your government ' give peace a chance? ' what does this mean?

[SO143]

Originally Posted by elpibe

Your governments should apology for stealing what belongs to us.

what a shameless person you're

[LondonFox]

Here's How Cristina Fernandez Is Destroying Argentina's Economy

Before we dive into some of president Fernandez's decisions, it is important to remember that Argentina has struggled to return to the credit markets after its spectacular 2001 default, and it is still struggling to meet its debt obligations.

http://articles.businessinsider.com/...-ypf-debt-plan



goodbye Argentina..

[elpibe]

Originally Posted by LondonFox

http://articles.businessinsider.com/...-ypf-debt-plan

goodbye Argentina..

Don't Cry for us, England....

The UK: A Free Nation Deep in Debt

Take record-high debt, add record-low interest rates, and what do you get in gold...?

Second only to Japan, the UK now wears the greatest debt burden of any major economy today - in total, more than 5 years' entire economic output.

Japan pips Britannia to world #1 (only just) with the loans and fixed-income debt of its national, corporate, household and financial sectors adding up to 512% of its GDP. But then Japan did take 20 years of economic depression, zombie banking and debt-fed "make work" programs to get there.

Another gem.....

Deep in Debt: Big bills to get bigger for UK taxpayers?



Bye, Bye....England

[LondonFox]

Ooh Japan.. a highly developed and world leading nation thank you for such a kind comparison.

Better than being compared to an African state I guess... but that's an insult to Africa.. they have far greater morals than Argentina.

[LondonFox]

Actually if you read that article..

"The oddity, of course, is that a vast chunk of the UK's gross debt is money it owes to itself."

Hmm... guess that is better than owing it to other countries (like Argentina)... the UK can take much longer to pay it back... to itself.

[RobitTV]

Argentina is a product of colonialism, conquered by the sword, most of the natives killed and infected by disease, their land taken from them and worked by imported African slaves. The African's who made up 50% of the population would themselves completely disapear from Argentina between 1850-1900 in what could have been a chilling fore runner to the disareances of the Dirty War in the 1970's when an estimated 30,000 Argentines were raped, tortured and murdered, many more were held illegally in detention camps and tortured. The true figure for the dead could be as high as 100,000, no one knows because there is little official documentation and most bodies were dumped in the sea.

Argentina took land from its neighbours in numberous wars , civil wars and land grabs - Paraguay, Uraguay, Chile. Today Argentina despite the changed political landscape is still a nation characterised by uber nationalism. The claim to the Falklands was surendered in 1850 but reserected in 1941 by a fascist junta, which inc Peron, they thought their friends the Nazi were going to win the war, the Falklands looked easy picking.

In 1982 Argentina was under the latest succession of a series of fascism military junta's. Their hold on power was looking precarious, in deperation they sort a war, Chile looked like a good victim, they already claimed lots of land and were ignoring the international tribunals that had ruled in Chile's favor. But then they changed their mind and invaded the Falklands. Today the war is romanticized by a nation ruled by a kind of cross between a Neo-Nazi uber nationalist and a Charvesta Revolutionary uber Marxist. The only thing missing is the land reform. Maybe that's for later? But as few natives remain, maybe they'll just ignore their rights... God knows they always have. An entire culture replaced by a European one. Entire languages destroyed.

Timmerman should take time to read about his country's history.

[RobitTV]

It's time for Argentina to face up to the facts of reality and stop Contridicting itself. Argentina has enough problems of it own to sort out, but CFK is trying to bring attention to the islands in desperation.

She knows she's on her last legs with the people, sooner or later they will notice what a cow she really is and oust her from office.

I'd advise CFK to sort out the countries internal affairs before time really runs out.

[gothicform]

Originally Posted by LondonFox

Actually if you read that article..

"The oddity, of course, is that a vast chunk of the UK's gross debt is money it owes to itself."

Hmm... guess that is better than owing it to other countries (like Argentina)... the UK can take much longer to pay it back... to itself.

here's what we do... just so the argentines can get super jealous.

the bank of england invents £150 billion worth of money, and then uses it to buy british government bonds with forcing the cost of borrowing down to 2% so that we pay less to private bond holders at the same time. the bank of england then owns about 10% of the british government debt. once the deficit falls to zero as it eventually will the british government launches a bond redemption programme whereby the bonds issued that the bank of england owns are simply discontinued. the debt no longer exists - it is wiped out! it's pretty sweet actually.

one reason the market is quite OK with british government debt is because the largest owner of british government debt is the british government!

[SO143]

Originally Posted by RobitTV

Argentina is a product of colonialism, conquered by the sword, most of the natives killed and infected by disease, their land taken from them and worked by imported African slaves.

lmfao

[narflc]

Originally Posted by RobitTV

Argentina is a product of colonialism, conquered by the sword, most of the natives killed and infected by disease, their land taken from them and worked by imported African slaves. The African's who made up 50% of the population would themselves completely disapear from Argentina between 1850-1900 in what could have been a chilling fore runner to the disareances of the Dirty War in the 1970's when an estimated 30,000 Argentines were raped, tortured and murdered, many more were held illegally in detention camps and tortured. The true figure for the dead could be as high as 100,000, no one knows because there is little official documentation and most bodies were dumped in the sea.

[Shogun3]

Argie schools are a disaster.