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Old March 20th, 2012, 05:53 PM   #361
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港鐵10個廁所要起八年
2012年03月20日(二)






港鐵遲遲未在全線車站設置洗手間惹人詬病,昨宣布在二○一五年年底前,在旺角、太子及金鐘三個轉線車站加設公共洗手間,餘下尚未有洗手間的七個轉線車站,則要到二○二○年年底前才有洗手間使用。至於非轉線車站加建洗手間的問題,港鐵指技術有困難難以加裝。有民間監察團體批評港鐵拖延,質疑「起一個廁所有幾困難!」

港鐵計劃斥資逾十億元推行一系列改善服務措施,除加強列車班次、增購新列車外,亦會提升車站設施。現時港鐵有八十三個全日運作的車站(不計馬場站),僅四十個設有公共洗手間。港鐵車務工程總管梁泉材昨表示,旺角、太子及金鐘站將於二○一五年年底前增建洗手間,餘下包括尖沙咀、北角等車站要到二○二○年年底前才加裝,上環站公共洗手間將於今年第三季落成。

現時三十多個非轉線車站仍未有公共洗手間,港鐵以技術為由表示難以安裝,梁解釋,由於原先設計未有包含建洗手間,要加裝有技術困難。

面對人口老化及為鼓勵殘疾人士外出,港鐵會於二○一五年年底前在十個車站裝置升降機,明年年底前在三十個車站加設五十二部新闊閘機。

港鐵向用八達通乘客收取一角加裝幕門的費用,港鐵預計一五年便停收。日後一些新車站加裝幕門會否再徵費,港鐵表示正與港府商討,傾向不再徵費。民間監察公共事業聯委會發言人蔡耀昌批評,要多等八年才僅多十個車站有洗手間是不合理。
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Old March 20th, 2012, 05:55 PM   #362
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MTR splashes out with toilets
The Standard
Tuesday, March 20, 2012

Public toilets at three of the busiest MTR interchange stations will be installed as part of a HK$1 billion investment to improve services.

The toilets will be in place at Mong Kok, Prince Edward and Admiralty stations by 2015, with the remaining seven interchange stations earmarked to receive similar facilities by 2020.

At present only 10 of the 20 interchange stations have toilets.

The company will also install new external lifts at 13 stations to connect concourses with street levels.

Lifts at four of the stations are slated to be completed by the end of the year, while the rest will have them within three years.

"The initiatives are directly related to what customers are asking us to do more of, which includes easing crowding, improving access to stations, adding public toilet facilities and speeding up the installation of automatic platform gates," MTR Corp chief executive Jay Walder said yesterday.

Chief of operations engineering David Leung Chuen-choi said the company's new direction on public toilets follows the success of installing facilities at Sheung Wan station when it was modified as part of the West Island Line works.

The facilities will make journeys more convenient and comfortable for the elderly, wheelchair-bound commuters and those traveling with prams or large items, Leung said.

He added it will be difficult to put toilets in all MTR stations owing to technical difficulties with plumbing and sewage lines.

Other initiatives include installing 52 more wide gates in 30 stations by mid-2013, and the addition of 231 platform seats in 50 stations by the end of this year.

The company has boosted train frequency with an additional 368 trips on the Tsuen Wan, Kwun Tong and Island lines.

Commuters have welcomed the new initiatives.

Retiree Chan Kin-hung likes the external elevator plan because after taking the lift to the station concourse at Shau Kei Wan he still has to walk some distance to get out of the building.

But others, like student Derek Kwok Yu- fan, are unhappy that commuters will have to wait until 2020 for toilets at all interchange stations. "I wonder why it takes eight years to build a simple toilet," Kwok said.
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Old March 25th, 2012, 06:42 PM   #363
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Old April 18th, 2012, 05:43 PM   #364
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LCQ4: Railway noise in Tai Kok Tsui
Government Press Release
Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Following is a question by the Dr Hon Priscilla Leung and a reply by the Secretary for Environment, Mr Edward Yau, in the Legislative Council today (April 18):

Question:

Recently I have received quite a number of complaints from residents in the vicinity of the MTR Olympic Station, indicating that because of the open air design of the rail sections of the MTR Tung Chung Line and Airport Express adjacent to the housing estates (namely, the Central Park and the Park Avenue) in that district, and in the absence of noise barriers, the nearby residents have been suffering from excessive noise nuisance produced by trains running through the aforesaid sections for years. In this connection, will the Government inform this Council:

(a) whether it knows, other than the East Rail Line, the total number of rail sections which adopt an open air design and are close to residential buildings at present; of the total number of complaints the authorities had received in the past three years from residents living on both sides of the open air rail sections concerning railway traffic noise;

(b) of the existing criteria based on which the authorities request the MTR Corporation Limited (“MTRCL”) to retrofit semi-enclosures similar to those retrofitted along the East Rail Line section near Yim Po Fong Street in Mong Kok or full enclosures along the open air rail sections close to residential buildings for noise mitigation purpose; whether the Government has specified the distance between MTR rails and residential buildings at present; and

(c) whether the Environmental Protection Department has sent its staff to measure the noise level on both sides of the open air rail sections of the Olympic Station near the Park Avenue; if it has, of the data so collected; whether the Government has plans to require MTRCL to retrofit full enclosures along the aforesaid sections; if it has, whether it knows the timetable for the retrofitting works?

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(a) Excluding the East Rail Line and the Light Rail of the MTR Corporation Limited (MTRCL), there are a total of eight sections of railway lines which are of open track or viaduct design and close to residential buildings. Details are set out in the Annex.

The number of noise complaints related to running trains received by the Environmental Protection Department (EPD) in the past three years, i.e. from 2009 to 2011, are 25, 30 and 28 respectively.

(b) The Technical Memorandum under the Noise Control Ordinance (NCO) prescribes three categories of noise standards for trains in accordance with the area sensitivity rating. For the time period between 7 am and 11 pm, the standards are 60 dB(A), 65 dB(A) and 70 dB(A) respectively. In general, the noise standards are 60 dB(A) for domestic premises in rural area and 70 dB(A) for domestic premises in urban area. The standards for the time period between 11 pm and 7 am are set at 10 dB(A) lower than the relevant daytime standards.

To comply with the above statutory noise standards for trains, the MTRCL may need to adopt noise abatement measures where appropriate. The MTRCL may undertake whatever abatement measures appropriate in the circumstances. The NCO does not prescribe the separation distance between railways and domestic premises or the design of noise barriers for railways.

All new railways must be planned to comply with the noise standards under the NCO through incorporating good design and suitable noise abatement measures in accordance with the requirements under the Environmental Impact Assessment Ordinance (EIAO).

Regarding the railways in operation, the EPD will require the MTRCL to make improvements if the noise levels of the trains are found to have exceeded the standards under the NCO. On receipt of a complaint, the EPD will require the MTRCL to consider the merits of each individual complaint and adopt measures to abate the noise from running trains as far as practicable and with due regard to the actual conditions of the rail sections involved, the technology available and the site conditions. Measures to reduce noise generated during railway operation include regular grinding of the tracks and wheels; proper maintenance of trains and rails; application of lubricant to the tracks and wheels; adjusting the running patterns of trains and reducing train speed where feasible; provision of wheel dampers; welding all the weldable track joints to reduce noise generated by wheel movements on the track; and provision of noise barriers.

Nevertheless, for the railway lines that were built before the NCO and the EIAO came into effect, such as the East Rail Line, Tsuen Wan Line, Kwun Tong Line and Island Line, there are practical difficulties and constraints in retrofitting them with noise abatement facilities. In this connection, section 37 of the NCO also stipulates that the NCO shall apply to the MTRCL only so far as is practicable and compatible with the discharge of any function or the exercise of any power or duty conferred or imposed upon it according to law.

(c) In response to earlier complaints from residents, the EPD has conducted investigations at several locations in the Olympic area in Tai Kok Tsui about the noise emanating from the open tracks. In 2003, the EPD found that the levels of train noise near the old buildings of Pok Man Street to the north of Olympic Station at night exceeded the above statutory standards. Subsequently, the MTRCL reduced the noise level of running trains to within the statutory limits through track grinding, reducing the train speed and installing by the end of 2010 noise barriers to the north of Olympic Station. The EPD has also conducted investigations at Harbour Green, Island Harbourview and the Long Beach in response to the complaints from residents. There was no exceedance of the above statutory standards. For the housing estates located to the south of the Station (including the Central Park and the Park Avenue), noise mitigation measures had been incorporated in these developments at the planning stage, as reflected in the podium design, building layout and disposition. Measurement by the EPD staff at Central Park Block 1, the block closest to the railway in 2009 showed that the train noise did not exceed the statutory limits. Measurement was conducted by the department at Central Park again last week and there was no exceedance of the standards also. The EPD would continue to monitor the situation and check whether it is necessary to require the MTRCL to adopt further noise abatement measures.

Annex : http://gia.info.gov.hk/general/20120...0304_92641.pdf
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三鐵路走廊擬貫通北區
2012年04月21日(六)




【本報訊】港府昨發表「我們未來的鐵路」諮詢文件,顧問提出新界三項大型跨區鐵路走廊的構思,包括港深西部快速軌道機場聯絡線、屯荃鐵路及北環線,收集市民對長遠鐵路發展的意見,未來三個月會在各區舉辦巡迴展覽及公眾論壇等活動。

政府委託顧問就《鐵路發展策略2000》進行檢討及研究後,提出三項鐵路走廊的初步構思,首先是連接本港赤鱲角機場至深圳寶安國際機場的港深西部快速軌道機場聯絡線。

該鐵路線共分三部分,主線為機場或港珠澳大橋香港口岸為起點,由南向北經新界西北、后海灣至深圳機場,車程預計二十五分鐘;跨界支線則為洪水橋到達下白泥與主線共用管道,車程十二分鐘。
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LCQ3: MTR fares and the Fare Adjustment Mechanism
Wednesday, April 25, 2012
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Following is a question by the Hon Chan Hak-kan and a reply by the Secretary for Transport and Housing, Ms Eva Cheng, in the Legislative Council today (April 25):

Question:

The MTR Corporation Limited ("MTRCL") recorded a surplus of $14.7 billion last year, but it announced in March this year that it will increase MTR fares by as high as 5.4% in June this year in accordance with the Fare Adjustment Mechanism ("FAM") which provides for both upward and downward adjustments, and it will at the same time provide some fare concessions. This is the third consecutive year that MTR fares are being increased and the rate of increase this year is the highest since the implementation of FAM in 2009, resulting in an increase in passengers’ travel expenses. Yet, MTR incidents occur frequently; according to the figures provided to this Council by the Transport and Housing Bureau, 839 railway related incidents which have to be reported to the Electrical and Mechanical Services Department in accordance with the Mass Transit Railway Regulations occurred last year, representing an increase of 9% over the figure of 2010. In this connection, will the Government inform this Council:

(a) whether it knows the fare concessions that MTRCL offered to passengers in the past three years, and the respective numbers of passengers who benefitted from such concessions as well as the expenditures incurred, and set out the figures in table form;

(b) of the current review procedures of FAM; whether it will review FAM earlier and consider including in FAM the authority of the Government to vet and approve fare adjustments to prevent MTRCL from effectuating fare increases automatically according to FAM; if it will, of the details; if not, the reasons for that; and

(c) whether it will in the future consider linking the rate of increase in MTR fares to the number of the aforesaid railway related incidents as a penalty system, and to monitor the performance of MTR; if it will, of the details; if not, the reasons for that, and how the Government will ensure that such incidents of MTR will not occur persistently, and timely and quality services will be provided?

Reply:

President,

Since the rail merger in December 2007, fare adjustment of the MTR Corporation Limited ("MTRCL") has been subject to an objective and transparent Fare Adjustment Mechanism ("FAM"). The FAM, formulated after extensive discussion in the community and by the Legislative Council ("LegCo"), has replaced the pre-merger fare autonomy of the MTRCL.

Under the current FAM, the fare adjustment rate for the prevailing year is determined in accordance with a direct-drive formula linked to the year-on-year percentage changes in both the Composite Consumer Price Index ("CCPI") and the Nominal Wage Index (Transportation Section) ("Wage Index") in December of the previous year, as well as a productivity factor.

The MTRCL reduced its fares immediately after the merger. Such reductions included (1) a minimum of 10% decrease in Octopus fares for long-haul trips; (2) a minimum of 5% decrease in Octopus fares for mid-haul trips; and (3) a commitment to freeze its fares in the first two years following the merger until June 30, 2009. The FAM was not introduced until 2009 after the merger and the first fare increase was implemented in 2010.

The Census and Statistics Department published the CCPI and Wage Index for December 2011 on January 20 and March 26, 2012 respectively. With reference to these indices, the computation results of the FAM indicate an adjustment rate of +5.4% in the overall MTR fares for 2012.

According to the FAM procedures laid down in the Operating Agreement ("OA") signed between the Government and the MTRCL in August 2007, the MTRCL is required to provide the Government with two certificates issued by an independent third party to certify that its fare adjustment is in compliance with the FAM. It is also required to formally notify the Panel on Transport of the LegCo and the Transport Advisory Committee three weeks prior to the implementation of the new fares. As the OA is a legally binding document, the Government will act in accordance with the mechanism and ensure that the MTRCL complies with the relevant accounting and notification requirements.

Railway is the backbone of the public transport system in Hong Kong and forms the core of our transport strategy. The MTR network currently covers the residential areas occupied by 70% of our population. With an average daily patronage of over 4 million passenger trips, the MTR has become the most popular mode of public transport in Hong Kong.

Given the relatively high inflation rate at present and thus a heavy financial burden on the local community, the Government shares the view of the public that the MTRCL should, apart from considering its commercial operations, give due regard to its corporate social responsibility. While providing safe and efficient railway services, the MTRCL should also strive to help the public reduce fare expenses. Therefore, the Government has urged the MTRCL to take into account the overall macro-economic environment and implement more and various effective fare concessions so as to address the needs of passengers and alleviate their burden of travelling expenses.

My reply to the three parts of the question is as follows:

(a) Over the past three years, major fare promotions and concessions provided by the MTRCL include fare concession for children; Student Travel Scheme; fare concession and $2 fare promotion for the elderly; fare concession for Persons with Disabilities; Monthly Pass and Day Pass; free interchange offer and Light Rail Personalised Octopus Frequent User Bonus Scheme; "Ride $100 Get $5 MTR Shop Coupon" promotion scheme; and "Ride $100 Get 1 Free" promotion scheme; etc. MTRCL's major fare promotions and concessions, as well as the number of passengers benefitted and the amount involved, are at Annex.

(b) Regarding the review of the FAM for the MTR fares, the OA stipulates that the Government or the MTRCL may request a review on the FAM in the fifth year after the merger or every fifth year thereafter. We shall initiate the review in the second half of 2012 and discuss with the MTRCL, with a view to completing the exercise by late 2012 or early 2013.

At the time of the rail merger, the establishment of the FAM and the elements contained in its formula were thoroughly discussed and considered by the community and the LegCo. The CCPI adopted by the current mechanism reflects to a certain extent the macro-economic environment of Hong Kong whereas the Wage Index reflects the staff cost of the MTRCL. As such, it may be said that the economy and wage precede the activation of any fare adjustment.

It will be five years in December 2012 following the rail merger. To better prepare for the FAM review to be carried out in the second half of the year, we have engaged a consultant to conduct a study. The consultant will examine the relevant issues objectively and comprehensively. The study will include whether and how new elements in addition to the data linked with the economic performance, wage index and productivity factor should be introduced in the FAM so as to reflect the operating costs, profit level, efficiency of operation and service performance of the MTRCL as well as the affordability of general public, etc., thereby improving the mechanism. Recommendations made therein will serve as our reference in the upcoming review.

As to whether approving procedures should be introduced to the mechanism, we are open-minded at this stage. Of course, we expect the future mechanism would be a transparent and simple one based on objective indicators. The consultancy study is still underway. We shall take into consideration the findings of the consultancy study upon its completion, as well as consult and listen to the views of various sectors.

(c) The MTRCL has a grave responsibility of providing safe railway services to the community. The Government has all along required the MTRCL to offer safe, reliable and efficient railway services at all times. The Electrical and Mechanical Services Department ("EMSD") is responsible for monitoring the safety of railway systems. It will conduct post-incident investigations to ensure that the MTRCL will take appropriate follow-up and improvement measures. The EMSD will also conduct regular inspections to check whether the MTRCL has carried out railway system maintenance works as scheduled to ensure railway safety.

Under the Mass Transit Railway Regulations, the MTRCL has to notify the EMSD of any incident that occurred at any part of the entire railway premises which has a direct bearing on the safe operation of the railway. The figures mentioned by the Honourable Chan are the number of railway incidents along various MTR railway lines that were caused by railway equipment failure, staff behaviour, passenger/public behaviour as well as other external factors and that were notifiable to the EMSD in accordance with the Regulations. The EMSD stated that, among the railway incidents in 2011, over 90% were caused by passenger/public behaviour and other external factors such as passengers being nipped by train doors when dashing into the compartments, trespassing and fallen trees under tropical typhoons, etc. Less than 10% were caused by railway equipment failure and staff behaviour. Subsequent to an analysis of the incidents concerned, the EMSD found no systemic safety concerns in the MTR services.

In our opinion, the most important task after the occurrence of a railway incident is to identify the contributory cause and resume normal train services as soon as possible so that the impact to the public can be minimised.

As for how to apportion blame for the incidents or setting up a demerit system, we are also open-minded. We should however bear in mind that any suggestion should not unnecessarily incur additional pressure on frontline railway staff, so that it would not bring about any adverse impact on railway safety checks and emergency repairs in their attempt to avoid points being deducted when carrying out repair works within tight timeframes.

Separately, given the lengthy operational hours and high utilisation of the territory-wide railway network, with hundreds of thousands of systems and components operating non-stop, it is practically impossible to achieve a scenario of "zero incident". Notwithstanding, we have all along demanded the MTRCL to give safety the highest priority, as under no circumstances should safety be compromised. As to how MTRCL's service performance may be assessed comprehensively and objectively, and linked to the FAM, it is a complicated issue which will be examined in the upcoming review.

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At least three more railway projects - including a Siu Sai Wan extension and a spur line parallel to the Island Line - could be proposed after the government decides this year on the rail projects for the next stage of post-2020 development.The Transport and Housing Bureau said it did not mention these extensions when it singled out three links last month for the next round, as the need for them was largely reliant on which of the proposals the public endorsed.

However, transport analysts say the public was deprived of the full picture when the proposed rail links were not mentioned previously. They rejected claims that the rail lines are inter-dependent.
The bureau last month released a study commissioned by engineering firm Aecom a year ago on railway development after 2020.
It singled out for public discussion two domestic lines - the Northern Link from Kam Tin to Lok Ma Chau, and the Tsuen Wan-Tuen Mun Link - and a multibillion-dollar cross-border railway connecting Hong Kong and Shenzhen airports.
Responding to queries from the South China Morning Post (SEHK: 0583, announcements, news) , the bureau said that was only the first stage which "focuses on major regional railway corridors".
In the second stage, it would study localised improvements and congestion relief.
In the second stage, for instance, commuters could travel directly from Siu Sai Wan to either Chai Wan or Heng Fa Chuan, while in East Kowloon, commuters could travel directly to Central and Admiralty without having to change at North Point.
"As the major regional corridors will affect the traffic distribution of the whole network and may potentially shift bottlenecks, it is logical to divide the study into two stages," a bureau spokeswoman said.
But an MTR Corp executive, who declined to be identified, says it is hard to see how, for instance, the airport link - which has a spur line connecting Tuen Mun to the Tung Chung Line - could have an impact on whether the North Island Line should be built.
"That spur line mainly serves movements between New Territories west and north Lantau, while the North Island Line serves to ease the mounting burden of North Point as an interchange station and handles movements between East Kowloon and Island west," the executive said.
The two proposed domestic lines would also have little effect on the extensions, the executive says.
It is also disappointing that no railway projects were proposed to facilitate the east-west movements, the executive says, noting the MTR's suggestion from a long time ago to connect Sha Tin or Tai Wai with Lai King and Tsuen Wan - a route now dominated by minibuses.
Hung Wing-tat, a veteran transport analyst, says it is a waste of public funds to split the study of the railway blueprint into two phases.
"The government paid for the study and we expect the consultant to give us a thorough report on all possible lines, and not just part of it," Hung said.
"I don't think these lines are so inter-dependent on one another. I wonder if they wanted to rush to announce the results before the new administration takes over."
Of the three proposed railway lines, officials believe the airport link might be the most profitable following the addition of two spur lines, which would attract travellers between Hung Shui Kiu and Qianhai two newly developed areas in Hong Kong and the mainland, respectively.


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Not nice at all. I was on one of them the other day and the train doors just refused to align with the PSDs.
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Not nice at all. I was on one of them the other day and the train doors just refused to align with the PSDs.
I went on the new trains for the first time on friday. I actually quite like them. There wasn't any problem with the Psds.
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Good on you. I hope they get it fixed asap.
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Octopus card partners with Guangdong-based Lingnan Pass

Hong Kong-based smart-card service provider Octopus has partnered with Guangdong Lingnan Pass Company to offer co-named products – the Octopus Lingnan Pass and the Lingnan Pass Octopus cards – that can be used in Hong Kong and 16 other cities in the Chinese province of Guangdong, making it easy for travellers to make small payments on the road.

The two-in-one cards, equipped with Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) technology, store both Hong Kong Dollars and Reminbi and can be used for public transport and at selected retail and fastfood outlets in cities such as Guangzhou, Foshan, Zhuhai and Zhongshan.

Starting from 18 July, adult Octopus Lingnan Pass cards can be purchased from all MTR and Light Rail customer service centres in Hong Kong for HK$98 (US$12) each and adult Lingnan Pass Octopus cards can be bought at corresponding facilities in each of the 16 cities in Guangdong for RMB80 (US$12) each. All cards are sold anonymously and no personal information is stored on them. Cardholders can add value at authorised kiosks or service points.

To launch the joint initiative, 3,000 sets of commemorative cards, specially designed in white instead of blue, will be available in Hong Kong at HK$298 (US$38) each through the customer service centres at 26 designated MTR stations while another 1,500 sets will be sold at Lingnan Pass sales outlets in Guangdong for RMB238 (US$37) each.

General manager of Guangdong Lingnan Pass Company Xie Zhendong said he believed the new products would facilitate cross-border travel and promote economic integration and cultural exchange between the southern Chinese province and the Special Administrative Region.

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Hi all,

Couple of questions:

1) Anyone know why the MTR is so profitable?

2) Is the MTR privately owned or government?

3) Does the MTR maintain its own rollingstock or is it contracted?

4) Is their any demand for a high speed rail in Honk Kong to somewhere?

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Couple of questions:

1) Anyone know why the MTR is so profitable?

2) Is the MTR privately owned or government?

3) Does the MTR maintain its own rollingstock or is it contracted?

4) Is their any demand for a high speed rail in Honk Kong to somewhere?

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1) property development on top of stations
2) publicly listed company with substantial government ownership
3) do you mean is it outsourced?
4) HSR link U/C to connect with Shenzhen and Guangzhou in West Kowloon
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There's also the fact that the MTR achieves a fare recovery ratio unlike anything else on the planet: upwards of 180%.
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