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TOICA and manaca begin interoperability
http://mainichi.jp/select/news/20120...40222000c.html Quote:
With the launch of farecard interoperability, passengers with at least one card now have access to 539 rail stations in the Tōkai region. Next major milestone is the launch of e-money interoperability next year.
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From the newly opened Shibuya Hikarie tower you have a good photo/video viewpoint for the Ginza Line
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Although I'm only a dirty lurker I have to say this thread is so informative and interesting. Please don't ever stop posting videos, photos and news.
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does anyone know if Sapporo is still experimenting with battery powered light rail or did that end? and if any other Japanese city is testing it.
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That ended a while back. That was a test by KHI for its hybrid tram under winter conditions. I don't think Sapporo was particularly interested in the type itself.
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There was a proposal for battery-powered trams in Auckland, and Kawasaki was supposed to have sent them a prototype unit (probably based on the SWIMO). However, I think the alignment was changed and they can now design the line with standard overhead lines, so nothing came of it.
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Chiba Monorail 0 series press debut
A belated set of pics from the press debut on 2012.04.17: Source: http://rail.hobidas.com/blog/natori/ At Hagidai Train Yard A vastly different image from the existing silver-bodied 1000 series trains. Design of the new 0 series began back in 2006 with the establishment of a special committee of experts and other representatives tasked with developing a design concept. The 0 series is nicknamed the “Urban Flyer”. ![]() Signage and displays are LEDs, similar to the third order of 1000 series trains. The first order of 0 series trains is intended as a replacement of the first order of 1000 series trains, so these aren’t designed to be operated in 4-car (2+2) formations. ![]() The floor of the operator’s cab features glass in the center. ![]() All-longitudinal seating, with high backs and individual cushions (as opposed to bench-style). The logo of the new series is a moon-and-star theme, also reflected in the stanchions near the doors. Similar to the floor of the operator’s cab, the windows and doors are designed with large glass sections, which should make this an interesting train to ride. In hindsight, it definitely is somewhat reminiscent of the Keihan 3000 series. ![]() The deck area between the two cars (trains are two-car fixed formations). Unlike standard train design in Japan, these don’t have overhead racks everywhere, only in the priority seating areas (on the left side, here). Priority seating cleverly inverts the orange-black moquettes of the regular seating. For some curious reason, passengers aren’t allowed to move between the cars except during emergencies.
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No LCDs for passenger information here, only LED scrolls. Wheelchair spaces are provided at both ends of the train.
![]() As required, these new sets feature black boxes. ![]() Bogie Rubber-tired monorails require two current collectors (+ and -). The disc at left is the parking brake. ![]() A lot of thought went into the train design, even the undersides. The white stripes are intended to represent contrails.
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or a ground APS system like in Bordeaux, France? in Okinawa, some people are trying to push for a one tram LRT instead of a monorail extension that doesn't use much overhead wires. I know in Europe they're doing quite a bit, but I only heard of SWIMO in Sapporo in Japan. Seeing as how so many cities in Japan now are looking or making LRT, i figure at least one is going to try wireless |
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damn I just missed it.. I was using the Chiba monorail last month, but left a week shy of the debut of that new train. Looks really nice!
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Well, the monorail will enter revenue service in July, so if you ever visit again, it'll probably be running.
As for the trams, I don't know of any place in Japan looking at ground-level power like Bordeaux... I also don't know of a specific place in Japan looking at battery-powered trams either. This is the first I've heard of something in Okinawa. Kinki Sharyō and Kawasaki both have models available, but I think they're mostly geared for the export market: http://www.nikkei.com/tech/trend/art...E2E2EBE0E2E3E2 There's a lot of talk about LRT in Japan, but most of it is either extensions / upgrades of an existing tram system powered by overhead (e.g., Sapporo, Ōsaka / Sakai, Hiroshima), or conversion of existing heavy rail lines powered by overhead (e.g., Toyama Light Rail, Okayama Kibi Line). The proposals requiring all-new infrastructure like Okinawa, Utsunomiya, etc. obviously stand the best chance for alternative methods of current collection or power.
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lately I've been developing interest in LRT technology and its flexibility and I just came back from Nagasaki and Hiroshima to observe it. Been looking at other islands too seeing what they did. One of the research papers I read from Japan claims that Japan is behind Europe in LRT technology.. I know the Little Dancer series is not as popular as the Flexity or Citadis but I never felt Japan was that much behind Europe in LRT tech (if at all). In anycase, I'm a bit disappointed that the Sapporo run didn't seem so successful. a network with partial overhead wires with battery powered trams would be useful in historic areas of Kyoto, parts of Hakodate and Nagasaki, the Shuri area of Okinawa, etc. |
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Regarding Japan being behind Europe in LRT technology, I believe it is more of being behind in implementation and the knowhow gained from such a process. Much more than Europe, the streetcar (or trams if you like) systems of Japan were decimated by closures in the late 60's and early 70's due to the rise of automobile and truck traffic, and in Tokyo, favoring new subway lines. There was no market for newer designs, so builders concentrated on heavy rail designs (to use a North American term). Europe, and especially Germany, with their robust streetcar systems even in smaller cities, provided a market for European builders to refine their products. |
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k.k.jetcar already responded as I was typing, but here's my thoughts... Sorry if some of the points are repeated.
The terminology gets a bit blurred, as there's a big gray area in the spectrum between trams / streetcars and modern LRT... Both Japan and Europe have grandfathered tram systems, but in Japan, they've tended to retain more of their tram heritage, while in Europe, they’ve generally been upgraded constantly over the years and probably are closer in resemblance to modern LRT… I’d say Europe was more proactive with modernizing their fleets and technology (low-floor designs, articulated designs, etc.), and tended to be more inventive / flexible with their implementations, frequently putting the lines underground in the city center and running them like subways (see Stadtbahn) or mixing them with mainline rail (see tram-train). Hiroshima is probably the closest thing in Japan to a real “tram city”, and they’ve recently been putting effort into modernizing their rolling stock, but I think the fact that they’re a private company getting by with minimal government support (more like none, until recently) probably killed any initiative on their part for large-scale upgrades. The larger systems in Tōkyō, Ōsaka, Kyōto, Sapporo, etc., also suffered under construction of modern subway systems and motorization, shrinking substantially (in some cases, disappearing completely) similar to what happened in the U.S. The handful of systems to remain, struggling to make ends meet, probably weren’t enough to stimulate any major innovations in tram technology. So the short answer is that I tend to agree that Japan was somewhat behind, but nowadays, I don’t think there’s really much difference. Japan still may not have anything exactly analogous to a Stadtbahn with underground sections, but that’s mostly a matter of choice and need… After all, Kinki Sharyō has the largest share of the LRV market in the U.S. If we broaden the discussion a bit, Japan had its own modernization processes for existing transit systems, it just took a different form than in Europe. For one, a lot of cities just opted for subway systems instead of tram systems, either because they didn't have extensive tram systems or because they didn't think a tram system was the best solution. Sendai and Sapporo have subways (and JR, to a lesser extent) as their backbones, but the backbone of a Sendai- or Sapporo-sized city in Europe might be trams instead. I also think you can flip the coin and say that everything that Europe did to modernize its trams, Japan did to modernize its its interurban systems (basically, trams designed for services extending outside of the city center). In reality, an interurban is basically the same thing as a tram-train, but we might say that a tram-train is a modern interpretation of the interurban and probably looks more like a tram, while a “true” interurban looks more like an intercity train. Japan’s private railways, including Hankyū, Keihan, Tōkyū, etc., were interurban-type systems in the past, but they now look and operate virtually indistinguishable (to the layman) from a modern rapid transit system… Rolling stock is designed for crush loads, formations are long, frequency is high, some of them are quadruple-tracked (複々線), a lot of them have grade-separated sections, and a lot of them run underground in the city centers or have track-sharing agreements (直通運転) with subways. As for the Sapporo thing, I also agree with k.k.jetcar... I'm not so sure it was "unsuccessful" per se, since I don't know how receptive Sapporo was to the idea in the first place. It may have just been that they needed somewhere to test the two battery-powered models (Kawasaki's SWIMO and the RTRI (鉄道総研) Hi-tram). Sapporo is building an extension to complete the tram loop, but it's opting for standard trams with pantographs because the rest of the line is powered with overhead, not because there's a fatal flaw with battery-powered trams. If there is ever a serious push for an all new LRT system not dependent on existing systems with overhead, then I think battery-powered trams may resurface again.
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New Yotsubashi Line extension surfaces as possible alternative to Naniwasuji Line
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The plan involves constructing the Nishi-Umeda – Jūsō Link, a 2.9 km connection between the Yotsubashi Line’s Nishi-Umeda Station and Hankyū’s Jūsō Station. If the Shin-Ōsaka Link, a 2 km connection between Jūsō and Shin-Ōsaka that Hankyū already has government approvals for but is currently on hold, kicks up again, it will allow Yotsubashi Line trains to run to Shin-Ōsaka or destinations on the Hankyū network including Kyōto and Kōbe. The southern connection into the Nankai Line is a bit more complex, as Nankai Namba is an elevated station, and the Nankai network is narrow-gauge, while Hankyū and the Yotsubashi Line are standard gauge. Officials are looking at the possibility of variable-gauge trains for the service, but will settle for a cross-platform transfer if that idea proves too difficult. There’s also the other (significant) design issue related to current collection, as the Yotsubashi Line is powered by third rail while both Hankyū and Nankai use overhead lines. In terms of cost, the Nishi-Umeda – Jūsō Link is estimated at approx. ¥95 billion and the Shin-Ōsaka Link at approx. ¥33 billion to ¥40 billion. The cost of the Nankai connection is uncertain, but officials say the overall cost of the project can still be kept under the estimated cost of the Naniwasuji Line (¥180 billion to ¥330 billion). I suspect that today’s urban planners in Ōsaka must be kicking themselves for the mistakes of the past… They designed the municipal subway to function as a completely independent system from the private railways... In reality, they would have been much better off staying out of the subway business and letting the private railways extend all the way through central Ōsaka, or designing the subway network to be 100% compatible with the private railways (just like Tōkyō). They’ve also whittled away a lot of money on some questionable projects (the Imazatosuji Line comes to mind immediately).
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Upgrades to JR Hiroshima Station stalling
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Currently, there are three options on the table: a surface-street option (¥3 billion), an underground option beneath the South Exit underground plaza (¥25 billion to ¥30 billion), and an elevated option into the second level of the station (¥7 billion to ¥10 billion). The surface-street option is cheapest, but offers the least benefit, as trams will still be stuck in street traffic. An elevated option would present potential grade issues for the trams, while there are obvious design and engineering issues to be considered with an underground alignment. Apparently, Hiroden is set on an underground alignment, which it estimates to cost ¥14 billion. JR West, on the other hand, is pushing for an elevated alignment, as main on-foot circulation through the station occurs at the second level of the station anyways. The lead agency on the city side will announce the results of its feasibility studies on the three options this summer. At the North Exit of the station, there’s also some issues related to plans to redesign the North Exit station plaza. Scenes at Hiroden Hiroshima Station. This would make for an interesting elevated station…
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it doesn't seem that it operates at synchronized traffic lighting too. if they could do that I think it would help transit times immensely! |
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Ōsaka Municipal Subway to be privatized by FY2015
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Late-night service will be extended in April 2013, followed by the fare cuts in April 2014. The fare cuts would bring the base (minimum) fare of ¥200 down by ¥20, reducing the Transportation Bureau’s annual fare revenue by approx. ¥6 billion. The extended late-night service would also increase annual expenses by several billion yen.
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I don't see anything there about the municipal buses, will they be privatized too? If the privatized entity is organized as a 100% municipally-owned company, I wonder how much of a difference it ultimately makes. What would the advantages be?
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