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Old May 9th, 2012, 04:09 AM   #22161
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That proposed airport of Ramon Ang is for all airlines, local and foreign. It is meant to replace NAIA. Pero the main airline tenant of that airport will be PAL and AirPhil Express because if you combine their operations, it is the largest airline in the Philippines, carrying more passengers than Cebu Pacific if you would take into account the international flights also. Kaya nga he envisioned it to have an annual capacity of 100 million passengers kasi nga it's for all airlines, not just for PAL and Airphil Express. Pero the local airlines can make it their hub, even Cebu Pacific and Zest Air.

Kung naisama yun sa usapan, matutuwa pa nga ang Cebu Pacific at Zest Air because Metro Manila will finally have a world class, state-of-the-art airport that will benefit them also even though their competitor was the one who propose it. Sana yun ang naisip ni Mar Roxas na long term solution kesa ipilit pa ang Clark.
still that is a plan of San Miguel/PAL/Ang, not the government. that is a subject of another discussion kung meron man. iba yung agenda ni Mar Roxas sa meeting na yun. and from the news conference, they (the government and the 3 major local airlines) were in agreement about Roxas plan.
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Old May 9th, 2012, 06:10 AM   #22162
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Maganda sigurong iaccept ng gov't ung propose airport ni Mr. Ang sa Bulacan at un nalang ang gawin na primary airport say in the year 2020. Sayang nga lang ung T1, T2 at T3 sa NAIA once mailipat na ang full operation don pero baka pwede ung gawing hotel, commercial establishement, etc. without tearing down those massive structures. At least mabawasan ung traffic dyan sa NAIA road part. O ibenta lang ang T1 at T2 at yung part ng isang runway para gawing exclusive international airport for foreign carrier tapos lahat ng Philippine-based carrier ay dun na sa Bulacan Airport.
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Old May 9th, 2012, 06:25 AM   #22163
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still that is a plan of San Miguel/PAL/Ang, not the government. that is a subject of another discussion kung meron man. iba yung agenda ni Mar Roxas sa meeting na yun. and from the news conference, they (the government and the 3 major local airlines) were in agreement about Roxas plan.
Which they can propose to the government. Any airport project needs the approval of the government in order to proceed
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Old May 9th, 2012, 06:32 AM   #22164
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^ yes they can. mahabang usapan yan. that should be tackled in another meeting/series of meeting and not on the meeting about short term improvement plan to naia. i am also interested to know the proposal of Mr. Ang by the way.
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Old May 9th, 2012, 06:33 AM   #22165
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Maganda sigurong iaccept ng gov't ung propose airport ni Mr. Ang sa Bulacan at un nalang ang gawin na primary airport say in the year 2020. Sayang nga lang ung T1, T2 at T3 sa NAIA once mailipat na ang full operation don pero baka pwede ung gawing hotel, commercial establishement, etc. without tearing down those massive structures. At least mabawasan ung traffic dyan sa NAIA road part. O ibenta lang ang T1 at T2 at yung part ng isang runway para gawing exclusive international airport for foreign carrier tapos lahat ng Philippine-based carrier ay dun na sa Bulacan Airport.
That would be too expensive to maintain. The only viable long term solution is for the government to accept and approve the proposal of SMC and make it the premier international gateway of the Philippines. They can still develop Clark if they want but only as a major domestic airport for Central Luzon
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Old May 9th, 2012, 06:37 AM   #22166
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^ yes they can. mahabang usapan yan. that should be tackled in another meeting/series of meeting and not on the meeting about short term improvement plan to naia. i am also interested to know the proposal of Mr. Ang by the way.
Here is the proposal of SMC. I'm quoting reign's post
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SMC buying binge goes on with 8 more deals
By: Daxim L. Lucas
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11:43 pm | Monday, April 30th, 2012
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(Last of two parts)

ON A BUYING BINGE. San Miguel Corp. says it’s in talks to buy several big acquisitions.
When Ramon Ang set San Miguel Corp. on its current path of aggressive diversification, he told an incredulous public that he would double the revenue of what was then Southeast Asia’s largest food and beverage company by 2015.
That ambitious target translates to around $20 billion in gross sales for all the units of the group.
Today, total revenues of the companies SMC is invested in already stands at $17.5 billion, with still three years to go before the self-imposed deadline.
By all indications, SMC will hit that target by the end of this year as the conglomerate is set to continue with its acquisition binge, just weeks after sealing a partnership that gave it control of Philippine Airlines.
“PAL’s annual revenues are at around $2.5 billion a year, so with that alone we have already hit our target ahead of schedule,” said Ang, who is also president and chief operating officer of SMC.
Despite this, the group is now in the process of negotiating or sealing eight other acquisition deals in various industries, chief of which is the power sector.
“We’re still in talks to buy several big acquisitions,” Ang said, hinting only that they are regional firms in the energy field, particularly in the oil and gas sector, and in mining and telecommunications. “I have seven months to do this.”
Up to two of these deals may be sealed before yearend, he said, describing the acquisitions as having the potential to add another $6 billion to the group’s top line.
One of SMC’s most ambitious projects, however, is directly related to its recent investment in PAL.

According to Ang, he hopes to break ground before the year ends on a 4,000-hectare development, which will have, as its primary tenant, a four-runway international airport and a modern air terminal capable of handling as many as 100 million passengers a year.
The project will also have its own business district, a commercial and residential area, and will apply for ecozone status to accommodate locators in the manufacturing space.
It will also have its own electricity source, which will be cheaper than the present modes provided by commercial power producers.
He declined to identify its exact location, saying only that motorists can reach the destination “in 10 minutes from EDSA” using SMC’s proposed elevated roadway that cuts across Metro Manila on a north-south axis.
Ang said the project is meant to provide the country with an alternative to the aging Ninoy Aquino International Airport, which has reached the limit of its expansion, and the Clark International Airport, which is too far from Metro Manila.


“It will be a mini-city,” Ang said, saying that PAL’s base of operations would eventually be moved to that new location.
The total project cost, he said, including the elevated tollway, a modern air terminal, runways and the acquisition of land will be in the vicinity of $5 billion.“Can we afford it? Of course we can afford it,” Ang declared.
Yet, despite all the apparent success the group has had in recent years in growing its portfolio, not everyone is a convert to the gospel of aggressive expansion that Ang preaches.

There are, in fact, a number of doubters in the local business community—all of whom declined to go on record—who question the group’s strategy, especially its reliance on leverage to finance its buyouts.
But the SMC chief is unfazed, flipping out a chart to show that the group’s ratio of net debt to earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization (Ebitda) stands at only 2.14 times—only about a third of the ratio of 6 times the group is allowed to take.
“Those people questioning the way we fund our projects are trying to make us explain things because they want to copy it. It’s as simple as that,” he said.
Indeed, the portfolio of today’s SMC is very different from what it looked like only four years ago.
In 2007, 45.3 percent of the group’s revenues came from the beverage sector, another 42.3 percent from the food business, while 12.4 percent came from packaging.

Today—excluding PAL—50.1 percent of revenues comes from the fuels business courtesy of Petron Corp., 13.1 percent from the power sector, 16.4 percent from beverage and another 16 percent from food, while packaging’s contribution has declined to 4.4 percent.
More importantly, the power sector’s contribution makes up the bulk of SMC’s Ebitda levels at 30.6 percent.
All told, the food and beverage businesses have shrunk to only about a third of SMC’s rapidly growing pie of revenues.
“Tell me—looking at where we were then and where we are now—do you believe our transformation was a success?” Ang said, throwing the question back when asked about his strategy.
Given that he has practically met the revenue target for SMC ahead of time, Ang has now set a new—more ambitious—goal for the conglomerate.
“I think we should be able to hit $30 billion in total sales by 2017,” he said. “We should surpass that again earlier.”
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Old May 9th, 2012, 06:41 AM   #22167
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^ I read that before. hoping for more details. anyway, san miguel did a great job with the Caticlan airport. i hope they can do the same with their new airport proposal.
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Old May 9th, 2012, 07:37 AM   #22168
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bakit hindi gawin na hub ang cebu o davao ng ibang mga local airlines? bakit mostly NAIA at ngaun clark lang eh wala naman dun establishments? i mean CEBU is more developed than Clark diba? and also why not instruct some local airlines to start some of their flights with airports outside of NAIA para ma spread out naman ung load ng NAIA.

ang dami naman palang domestic airports na meron night landing. gaya ng tacloban, ang last flight nila ata is 7:45pm, gawan ng mga domestic airlines ng redeye flights para makatulong. kelangan gawin ng NAIA na mura ang singil ng take-off at landing sa gabi. tapos taasan naman ang daytime fee for take-off and landing sa araw. pag ganito ang sitwasyon. malamang full service na ang airlines na gagamit sa araw kasi they can afford to pay the fees. also they should make airport terminal for budget airlines. ung walang air bridges. one of the reasons why cebu pacific does not use airbridges is because i heard MIAA charges 7thousand pesos per use of airbridges. kaya most of the time they will make passengers walk down the stairs and up the stairs.

im sure yung mga budget airlines na yan, ililipat nila yan sa gabi dahil mura singil. they dont care kasi ang mga sumasakay ng budget airlines hanap din mura na pamasahe, susunod din yang mga passengers.

pag ginawa nila yan, malamang marami ng sasakay sa gabi kasi mas lalong mura pa sa gabi. at wala pang traffic at konti lang ang tao di pa mainit. hehehe

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Old May 9th, 2012, 07:44 AM   #22169
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Transportation Sec. Mar Roxas will join us on PRIMETIME ON ANC shortly. Tweet your questions for Sec. Roxas using #primetime!

Roxas on Santiago-Tulfo brawl: Makikita sa video na yung mga security guards andun. Nagawa nila yung kanilang trabaho.

Roxas says NAIA security guards could have used force, but they didn't because Tulfo, Santiago, Barretto were unarmed

Roxas: This is less a reflection on the quality of the security service as it is a reflection on the combatants. Bakit sila nag-away?

Roxas: (Guards') principal focus is not warring pugilists. Their focus is anti-terrorism, anti-smuggling, ito yung pinagtutuunan ng pansin.

Roxas says they received info some people involved in the airport brawl were "UFC trainors / trainees"

Roxas: Kung na-offload yung bagahe nila, tanungin yung airline. There could be reasons why.

Roxas: The Caticlan airstrip is very short. All aircraft have what's called a load penalty. They have to give up (passengers or cargo).
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Roxas: Who's the airline that wants to disappoint their customers? So there must be a reason.

Roxas says NAIA will be designated as a captains-only runway. "The 1st officer, less experienced than the capt, will take longer on runway"

Roxas on "captains-only runway" policy: We can accommodate more planes in the same hour.

Roxas: We're building 2 rapid exit taxiways. Mabilis makaalis sa runway. Pagka-landing, there's a ramp here, libre na yung runway.

Roxas says 14 more airports will be allowed to operate at night. "It's about P800M. We'll provide lights, navigation, communication."

(1/2) 14 airports to be "night-rated": Tagbilaran, Legazpi, Dumaguete, Butuan, Ozamis, Cotabato, Naga

(2/2) 14 airports to be "night-rated": Dipolog, Roxas, Pagadian, Tuguegarao, Busuanga, Surigao, San Jose in Mindoro

Roxas: The future is really Clark. NAIA sits on 440 hectares. Hindi na ma-e-expand. Clark is 2,000 hectares.
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Old May 9th, 2012, 09:08 AM   #22170
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If I had known this before, I should have asked Mar Roxas if he will consider SMC's Bulacan airport proposal.

BTW, I've just tweeted Mar Roxas regarding Ramon Ang's proposal.

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Old May 9th, 2012, 09:59 AM   #22171
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yan kasi si mar roxas hanggang ngayon ndi pa tangap na natalo siya ng little black guy binay kaya bitter parin, ang tagal na nyang nakaupo sa pwesto wala paring major projects na napatupad, bukod sa paghihilamos sa Naia1 at Naia3... kung gusto niyang bumango pangalan niya dapat magpapogi siya... naiinggit pa rin kay binay at pumapalo ang rating niya sa mga survey... do your job boy... peace
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From @naiaguy on Twitter: MIAA Fire & Rescue units are on standby (monitored via radio communications). We're checking on a possible emergency. Pls standby.

http://twitter.com/#!/naiaguy/status/200138641400532992
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If I had known this before, I should have asked Mar Roxas if he will consider SMC's Bulacan airport proposal.

BTW, I've just tweeted Mar Roxas regarding Ramon Ang's proposal.
ano sagot?
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Old May 9th, 2012, 12:58 PM   #22175
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ano sagot?
Wala pa. Minsan lang niya binubuksan yung twitter niya.
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Old May 9th, 2012, 01:24 PM   #22176
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Eh? Like tourists come here to visit Metro Manila

Philippines is not known to have a scenic city like Tokyo/Singapore/Hongkong/Seoul/KL/Bangkok etc, our main selling point are our tropical islands so people from Europe/Aus/America/MidEast/EastAsia just uses NAIA to connect to their Domestic flights to Palawan/Cebu/Boracay/Davao heck even Olongapo and Angeles are even more popular for their infamous red light district while Baguio is like the 2nd home of Koreans here
Manila actually attracts a huge chunk of tourists that visit the Philippines annually. The capital city is one of our major tourist destinations.
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medyo masagwa pala ang itsura ng NAIA pag landing..
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By the way, tuwing uuwi ako ng Pilipinas palagi ko na lang napapansin ....

Ang tube na nagco-connect sa airplane at airport gate, amoy malansa at mukhang gusgusin. Halatang-halata paglabas ng eroplano, malalanghap mo agad iyong malansang amoy ng tube sa NAIA 1.

Isa pang halimbawa .... iyong mga glass panels sa departure area, pansinin niyo tadtad ng finger prints. Sa dinami-dami ng janitor sa NAIA wala man lamang makaisip na punasan ang mga iyon para hindi magmukhang madungis.

At noong nakaraang December, sa may ticketing area, and daming mga lumang timbangan na hindi na gumagana ang nakakalat lang sa tabi-tabi, at hindi naman ginagamit. Wala man lamang ba makaisip na ligpitin ang mga ito? Mga eye-sore na sila.

Natutuwa ako at sa wakas naisip ng gobyerno na pagkagastusan na ang NAIA 1 para gumanda. Pero sana maisip din nila na maraming puwedeng gawing pagpapaganda sa NAIA na hindi nangangailangan ng malaking gastos, tulad ng mga halimbawa sa taas. Sana bigyan din nila ang mga ito ng atensyon.
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