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Old May 10th, 2012, 08:30 PM   #61
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a nation becomes a breeding site of idiots, clown, corrupts, criminals, gangsters

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Seriously do they have schools in South Africa? better change your education system
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Considering how dumb he is, he's reached at being a clown.
I am always open to new ideas. I maybe a dumb or clown to you and maybe to others as well but not to everyone.

In Africa, only Kenyans are intellect and innovative; only Kenya has schools, good education system right?

Imagine, an education system that embraces and fosters tribalism, individualism, crime and injustice!

an education system introduced by fools for fools; eventually, a nation becomes a breeding site of idiots, clown, corrupts, criminals, gangsters, "walevi" of illicit brews such as "chang'aa, yokozuna", tribalists...
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Old May 10th, 2012, 08:57 PM   #62
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I am always open to new ideas. I maybe a dumb or clown to you and maybe to others as well but not to everyone.

In Africa, only Kenyans are intellect and innovative; only Kenya has schools, good education system right?

Imagine, an education system that embraces and fosters tribalism, individualism, crime and injustice!

an education system introduced by fools for fools; eventually, a nation becomes a breeding site of idiots, clown, corrupts, criminals, gangsters, "walevi" of illicit brews such as "chang'aa, yokozuna", tribalists...
Go back to class or better still stick to posting semi-nude women photos,tutors are miracle workers if they succeed in making someone out of you.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 09:04 PM   #63
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Imagine, an education system that embraces and fosters tribalism, individualism, crime and injustice!

an education system introduced by fools for fools; eventually, a nation becomes a breeding site of idiots, clown, corrupts, criminals, gangsters, "walevi" of illicit brews such as "chang'aa, yokozuna", tribalists...
Your stolid view of the world is a product of the Tanzanian education system.A copy of the USSR where they didnt appreciate free thinkers and academics eventually turning the citizens into zombies who cant think outside the box.The Kenyan system is unique ,proven and accessible to the majority compared to Tanzania.Here are the literacy rates...

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Could we go back to discussing cross border investments within Africa please?
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Old May 10th, 2012, 09:12 PM   #65
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Could we go back to discussing cross border investments within Africa please?
Is there a chance we will be let to do so?
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Old May 10th, 2012, 09:15 PM   #66
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Is there a chance we will be let to do so?
Well the mods may as well close the thread then, this is getting really tiring.
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Mintali why did you wish this guy back?
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Your stolid view of the world is a product of the Tanzanian education system.A copy of the USSR where they didnt appreciate free thinkers and academics eventually turning the citizens into zombies who cant think outside the box.The Kenyan system is unique ,proven and accessible to the majority compared to Tanzania.Here are the literacy rates...

Guy, It's for which year that? The Gabon has a literacy rate of more than 80 % in 2011. Want modify please.

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Old May 11th, 2012, 10:26 PM   #69
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Guy, It's for which year that? The Gabon has a literacy rate of more than 80 % in 2011. Want modify please.

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I believe that the Language barrier is an obstacle to this expansion to the east of Africa.
I dont think so..
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East African Cooperation minister Samuel Sitta has underscored the need for the government to review the current Capital Markets and Securities Act to enable Tanzanians to invest in the region’s partner states.

The Minister said it is irking to see Tanzanians barred from investing in other partner states while Kenyans, Rwandans, Burundians and Ugandans are freely investing in the bloc’s second largest economy.


The committee comprises members from different ministries, office of the Attorney General, Bank of Tanzania (BoT), Tanzania Revenue Authority (TRA) and the Immigration Department.

Other members are from the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS), Tanzania Private Sector Foundation (TPSF) and Tanzania Chamber of Commerce Industry and Agriculture (TCCIA).

“It is annoying to see Tanzanians prohibited to invest in the EAC partner states, while neighbouring Kenyan lead in investing in our country…the national committee should come up with a proposal to promote equity,” he noted.

http://www.ippmedia.com/frontend/index.php?l=41376


It took you guys long enough.That was one of the dumbest acts by a government anywhere in the world.Their logic was: ''lets stifle our peoples ambitions and rights in order to frustrate the Kenyans!" Now they want to negotiate,l say NO.Let them trade in the Dar stock exchange.Maintain the status quo with the rest of the members and move on.
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It took you guys long enough.That was one of the dumbest acts by a government anywhere in the world.Their logic was: ''lets stifle our peoples ambitions and rights in order to frustrate the Kenyans!" Now they want to negotiate,l say NO.Let them trade in the Dar stock exchange.Maintain the status quo with the rest of the members and move on.
You are one retarded asshole who knows nothing about that Act which came into force in 1986. The main purpose of the Act was to maintain the capital in Tanzania, to encourage Tanzanians to invest in Tanzania and not to discourage entrepreneurship since Ali Hassan Mwinyi had just come into power and he was all into privatisation and dismantling socialism. Dont start meddling around with shit you aint got no idea asshole. The Act came into force in 1986, EAC was "formed" in 1999 and When did customs duties/free movt start? in 2008/9 or something like that..

That Act, If It will be repealed It will be done so by the Tanzanian Parliament. Of course Mr. Sitta is our representative in EAC so he sees where we lacking and whats holding us back or causing us not to get the best out of EAC and if he concludes that the main problem is the Act then he starts the process of informing everyone and telling them what should be done. Thats one of the Ministry duties. He cant sit there and quash it himself since he aint got the power to do so..only the parliament has, all he does is Identify the problem and try to solve it. The first process of Identifying the problem has been done then the next one of quashing has to wait till when the parliament sessions start in June.

Why the fuck do you think everything we do, we ever did, we gonna do etc In Tanzania is about Kenya you retard? Should I make the same claim against you guys? No, I wont..why? because Im smarter than you.

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Old May 12th, 2012, 01:39 AM   #73
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You are one retarded asshole who knows nothing about that Act which came into force in 1986. The main purpose of the Act was to maintain the capital in Tanzania, to encourage Tanzanians to invest in Tanzania and not to discourage entrepreneurship since Ali Hassan Mwinyi had just come into power and he was all into privatisation and dismantling socialism. Dont start meddling around with shit you aint got no idea asshole. The Act came into force in 1986, EAC was "formed" in 1999 and When did customs duties/free movt start? in 2008/9 or something like that..

The EAC was not formed in 1999 you dumbass.Same BS being displayed today led to the collapse of the initial union,it wont happen again.
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The EAC was not formed in 1999 you dumbass.Same BS being displayed today led to the collapse of the initial union,it wont happen again.
This is from the EAC website "The Treaty for Establishment of the East African Community was signed on 30 November 1999 and entered into force on 7 July 2000 following its ratification by the original three Partner States – Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania...".

What BS? So when our secretary for EAC actually identifies the main hindrances to Tanzanians gaining much from the EAC, you find that BS? What kinda fkn logic are u displaying Mr.? Such a retard. Do you want him to keep quiet and say nothing even though he knows we could do much better?

We can talk all night on whom effectively caused the first EAC to collapse and we wont have a conclusion nor an understanding since everyone has a different perspective..so please..allow me to continue watching The Mentalist instead of discussing the collapse of EAC in 1977.

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Stop the bitching, we need all the investors in Kenya and we also need to invest outside Kenya; if the Tanzanians cling to protecting their economy thats fine. We should be smart enough to think beyond that and invest in more welcoming markets.
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Stop the bitching, we need all the investors in Kenya and we also need to invest outside Kenya; if the Tanzanians cling to protecting their economy thats fine. We should be smart enough to think beyond that and invest in more welcoming markets.
we have over 250 Kenyan investors, an indication that clearly displays how welcoming our market is.

Beside, the act was actually meant to create an attitude of investing-at-"home-first".

The act may go, but the attitude remains.

What do you think? should we leave investment opportunities at home to be taken by others? when we are done investing at home, other places will follow.
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we have over 250 Kenyan investors, an indication that clearly displays how welcoming our market is.

Beside, the act was actually meant to create an attitude of investing-at-" home-first".

The act may go, but the attitude remains.

What do you think? should we leave investment opportunities at home to be taken by others? when we are done investing at home, other places will follow.
Those policies will not be observed by the rest of the member states.Who do you think will loose the most in such an arrangement?

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Stop the bitching, we need all the investors in Kenya and we also need to invest outside Kenya; if the Tanzanians cling to protecting their economy thats fine. We should be smart enough to think beyond that and invest in more welcoming markets.
Thats exactly my point.Forget them,they are slowing down the union.Unnecessary baggage!
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This is from the EAC website "The Treaty for Establishment of the East African Community was signed on 30 November 1999 and entered into force on 7 July 2000 following its ratification by the original three Partner States – Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania...".
Wrong.The first EAC was not formed in 1999.

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What BS? So when our secretary for EAC actually identifies the main hindrances to Tanzanians gaining much from the EAC, you find that BS? What kinda fkn logic are u displaying Mr.? Such a retard. Do you want him to keep quiet and say nothing even though he knows we could do much better?
Yes and focus on the SADC.Its too late to act interested in formulating the required protocols.

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We can talk all night on whom effectively caused the first EAC to collapse and we wont have a conclusion nor an understanding since everyone has a different perspective..so please..allow me to continue watching The Mentalist instead of discussing the collapse of EAC in 1977.
What happened to your 1999 theory?
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Wrong.The first EAC was not formed in 1999.



Yes and focus on the SADC.Its too late to act interested in formulating the required protocols.



What happened to your 1999 theory?

When you look at my earlier post you will notice that i had formed in quotes like this "formed" meaning I knew that it was revived in 1999 after the collapse of 1977. Formed was just a proper word to use in 1999 rather than revived.

HAHAHAHHA lol, so thats where all the hate comes from? because of SADC, right? Tanzanians membership of SADC is beneficial to us in various ways and so is EAC, but a better question is, Does it a pose major conflict of interest resulting from it? May be, but not sure. But good news Mwana..impliedly from all the work the govt does and the policies Tanzania is EAC first and SADC second.

EAC is five countries..Tanzania included. Get over it already..anyway I dont see Tanzania as the major stumbling block towards a better EAC..sure we have our issues yes but they dont create that many problems..

The main issue is Suspicion between countries and I have to say no one is doing anything to ease that suspicion..like example If Kenya govt was all for easing EAC tensions and work together, they wouldnt have contemplated constructing an airport which will have a fundamental impact on Kilimanjaro Intl Airport in Tanzania(and I think the construction will continue)..some of members of Tanzanian parliament see this and be like "I told u so" to the govt and hint to the govt to never trust them and hence processes like Single Tourism visa get delayed because many Tanzanian leaders will oppose this as they will link it to the airport construction..do u get what im tryna say? It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know what problems EAC is facing, Tanzania is one of the problem and so are many others not related to Tz.

and I found an article related to what I have talking: http://allafrica.com/stories/201205111175.html

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