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Old May 11th, 2012, 04:44 AM   #1241
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Wow that's amazing! You can see the original design for 3WTC (before it was redesigned by SOM in 1978), as well as the original design for the lowrise buidlings.

And btw, everyone's acting like a bunch of spoiled brats in the 1WTC thread, staying clear of that thread for the time being.
Best thing I have read all day. If I didn't know any better I would guess that everyone whining in that thread is 12.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 04:56 AM   #1242
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Quick and dirty, but here you guys go. I need to get these professionally scanned.































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Old May 11th, 2012, 05:50 AM   #1243
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That is incredible stuff. Thank you so much for posting that, meh.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 07:08 AM   #1244
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Really awesome Meh
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Old May 11th, 2012, 07:04 PM   #1245
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I would much rather read about and look at photos of the old complex than I would study the new buildings. My fascination with the twins never ends and it's great to come here and talk with people who are equally fascinated with the buildings. I have learned/seen so much by reading this thread, particularly in the last few months.

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Old May 12th, 2012, 08:12 AM   #1246
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meh_cd thanks for that article. I have collected old books and brochures and love to read and see something we will never see again. I know the new WTC will give life back to this area but where in the world is a building or buildings that give an acre of floor space on their 110th level...let alone twice ! The original WTC will always be an icon of world history.No one can ever take that away........anyone who ever saw it or visited it is lucky to have that memory...I am.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 09:25 PM   #1247
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Old May 13th, 2012, 12:08 AM   #1248
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I would much rather read about and look at photos of the old complex than I would study the new buildings. My fascination with the twins never ends and it's great to come here and talk with people who are equally fascinated with the buildings. I have learned/seen so much by reading this thread, particularly in the last few months.
I would say the same thing. Most people immediately think of 9/11 when the Twins are brought up, so in effect they don't want to talk about it. But I want to; it was a part of New York that never really truly died.

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Old May 13th, 2012, 03:18 PM   #1249
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Old May 13th, 2012, 09:37 PM   #1250
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meh_cd thanks for that article. I have collected old books and brochures and love to read and see something we will never see again. I know the new WTC will give life back to this area but where in the world is a building or buildings that give an acre of floor space on their 110th level...let alone twice ! The original WTC will always be an icon of world history.No one can ever take that away........anyone who ever saw it or visited it is lucky to have that memory...I am.
Indeed. As the new construction at the site gets watered down, I find myself getting depressed again. I had hope for about 5 years (2006-2011) there, but it is looking like we may end up with a sad mess.

Nothing will ever replace the two shining exclamation points at the tip of Manhattan.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 05:07 AM   #1251
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Old May 15th, 2012, 05:09 AM   #1252
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Quick and dirty, but here you guys go. I need to get these professionally scanned.

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Old May 15th, 2012, 06:36 AM   #1253
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Sorry meh, resizing some of your pics for quotation purposes.



I can see why 3WTC was not built using Yamasaki's design. It would have looked severely dated by the time it was actually built in 1979-81. The final SOM design was better, and harmonized with the Twins.



Apparently this contractor had ties to the mob. They were the company that was using asbestos in the North Tower before the city told them to stop using it.



Fiduciary Trust had space on the 90th and 94-97th floors of the South Tower, and lost 88 people on 9/11. That means they had been in the WTC since it opened. Wow.

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Old May 15th, 2012, 04:43 PM   #1254
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Agreed, Chapelo. The Marriott (Vista) hotel they built was much better looking than what was originally planned.

I've always loved the pictures of the North Tower and it's antenna that were taken from the South Tower observation deck. So imposing.

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Old May 15th, 2012, 11:49 PM   #1255
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I find the older antennas like the original 1 WTC, Sears, and Hancock in Chicago to be "beefier" and easier on the eyes than the skeletal type seen on 4 Times Square and what is currently planned for the new 1 WTC.

As for that old hotel design - yeah. Yikes! The design of the lowrise buildings did not translate into a taller building at all.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 02:40 AM   #1256
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I find the older antennas like the original 1 WTC, Sears, and Hancock in Chicago to be "beefier" and easier on the eyes than the skeletal type seen on 4 Times Square and what is currently planned for the new 1 WTC.

As for that old hotel design - yeah. Yikes! The design of the lowrise buildings did not translate into a taller building at all.

Agreed. I think the antenna looked great on Tower 1. I like how one building had an antenna and one didn't. It made the two buildings easily distinguishable from one another.
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Old May 18th, 2012, 02:58 PM   #1257
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Nice videos especially for advanced searchers:
http://youtu.be/j3g12VxA4M0
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Old May 19th, 2012, 05:02 AM   #1258
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The Twins are BACK! Sort of...



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Old May 19th, 2012, 08:42 AM   #1259
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there was nothing in the world quite like the twins. Whether one thought they were dull or not is immaterial to the fact that they became the perfect abstract representation of economic might. Two twin skyscrapers dominating the most famous skyline in the world. Such an imposing presence.
I watched them being built and I thought they were butt-ugly from then until they came down. And the comparison with New York's gorgeous classics from the deco era only made them seem more brutal and unsophisticated.
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 02:03 PM   #1260
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Just saw Man On A Wire, amazing documentry.

Here is a interesting thread about visits to WTC http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1155592/...flat/114569930

Some truely amazing artistic photo's of WTC http://www.flickr.com/photos/berkess...504008/detail/

The more I see the new buildings rise, the more I get angry that the WTC is gone
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