ST. LOUIS - Edward Jones Dome at America's Center (66,965) - Page 3

***RMB2007*** · May 15th, 2012, 06:12 PM

And its likely future if the Rams do indeed decide to leave town?

Marckymarc · May 16th, 2012, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BoulderGrad

Thats the Rams proposal? Or counter proposal from state of MO?

That is The Rams proposal. Looks like at least $400-500 million worth of renovations, if not more.

JJG · May 16th, 2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Marckymarc

That is The Rams proposal. Looks like at least $400-500 million worth of renovations, if not more.

Hell, they're practically building a brand new stadium as far as what I'm seeing.

***RMB2007*** · May 16th, 2012, 09:24 AM

Oh well, off to LA they go:

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Deputy Mayor Jeff Rainford says the Rams’ proposal would cost a staggering $700 million. A construction industry expert familiar with the Dome project told me that was low: “It would be at least $750 million, probably closer to $1 billion."

http://www.stlmag.com/Blogs/SLM-Dail...o-Los-Angeles/

KingmanIII · May 16th, 2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RMB2007

So, here's their plan.

From nextSTL on Flickr:

Loads more here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nextstl...wardjonesdome/

What a massive change to the Edward Jones Dome it would be.

it looks like they copy-pasted parts of the bowl from Lucas Oil and Lincoln Financial

JJG · May 16th, 2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KingmanIII

it looks like they copy-pasted parts of the bowl from Lucas Oil and Lincoln Financial

Yeah, when I look at that, I think..... L.A. Rams.

nomarandlee · May 16th, 2012, 05:52 PM

It's not a bad stadium as is. From the outside especially it looks better then many other NFL stadiums.

I think the ever more evident question though is what will become of the stadium once the Rams leave.

en1044 · May 16th, 2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KingmanIII

it looks like they copy-pasted parts of the bowl from Lucas Oil and Lincoln Financial

I thought the exact same thing.

RaiderATO · May 16th, 2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cogan

What's the weather like in St.Louis? Does it really need indoor stadium? If they renovate why not take the roof off!?

The weather isn't bad enough to necessitate a roof, but the building is attached to their convention center and is used for MANY events other than football.

Topher51 · May 16th, 2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KingmanIII

it looks like they copy-pasted parts of the bowl from Lucas Oil and Lincoln Financial

The exterior looks more like Ford Field to me.

Considering where they are in the planning stages of this, the renders are going to look very patched together. They probably just took elements from existing drawings they had.

Keep in mind that even if the Rams leave for LA, St. Louis is still a viable market. The city already built one stadium on spec, hoping to lure a team. It worked once, it could work again. How does the St. Louis Jaguars sound to you?

JJG · May 16th, 2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Topher51

The exterior looks more like Ford Field to me.

Considering where they are in the planning stages of this, the renders are going to look very patched together. They probably just took elements from existing drawings they had.

Keep in mind that even if the Rams leave for LA, St. Louis is still a viable market. The city already built one stadium on spec, hoping to lure a team. It worked once, it could work again. How does the St. Louis Jaguars sound to you?

I can actually see that happening..... more than a decade from now.

slipperydog · May 16th, 2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JJG

Yeah, when I look at that, I think..... L.A. Rams.

Which is what it always should have been...

nomarandlee · May 16th, 2012, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Topher51

Keep in mind that even if the Rams leave for LA, St. Louis is still a viable market. The city already built one stadium on spec, hoping to lure a team. It worked once, it could work again. How does the St. Louis Jaguars sound to you?

I think that is true. I think a second LA team either at Farmers or at place like Industry is more likely.

I don't think it would take exorbitant funds to rehabilitate the Edward jones to be competitive. I think it would be hard to argue that St. Louis isn't a better market then Jacksonville or that even now the Edward Jones isn't better then the Jaguars stadium.

Pelt · May 16th, 2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KingmanIII

it looks like they copy-pasted parts of the bowl from Lucas Oil and Lincoln Financial

That would make sense that it looks like Lucas Oil, as it is HKS that has designed this proposal - the same firm that designed Lucas Oil.

Jericho-79 · May 16th, 2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiderATO

The weather isn't bad enough to necessitate a roof, but the building is attached to their convention center and is used for MANY events other than football.

You mean like how Farmers Field is designed to do.

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Originally Posted by nomarandlee

I think that is true. I think a second LA team either at Farmers or at place like Industry is more likely.

I was thinking that the Rams could take Farmers Field, and that the Raiders could take Roski's palace.

***LosAngelesSportsFan*** · May 16th, 2012, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GarfieldPark

Hope this helps see that they can stay in St. Louis. Glad to see another Midwestern City (along with Minneapolis / St. Paul) fending off an attempt by L.A. to steal their team. If you need to steal a team L.A., steal it from another California city - like San Diego or Oakland.

this was the proposal by the Rams TO St. Louis. the cost? 750 million. Chance of it happening? 0.0%

JJG · May 17th, 2012, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LosAngelesSportsFan

this was the proposal by the Rams TO St. Louis. the cost? 750 million. Chance of it happening? 0.0%

Seriously, they might as well just build a brand new stadium.... which is DEFINATELY not happening.

dfwabel · May 17th, 2012, 06:44 AM

Remember, now that both the Rams and the CVC have given each other proposals, they will now go to arbitration in June. Apparently (and I use that loosely), the CVC is the party which can make the arbitor's decision binding, not the Rams.

Marckymarc · May 17th, 2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dfwabel

Remember, now that both the Rams and the CVC have given each other proposals, they will now go to arbitration in June. Apparently (and I use that loosely), the CVC is the party which can make the arbitor's decision binding, not the Rams.

So what does this arbitration mean exactly? What exactly will be "settled" through arbitration, and will the Rams be forced to accept the ruling and have to stay in St Louis?

FloridaKnight · May 17th, 2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nomarandlee

I think that is true. I think a second LA team either at Farmers or at place like Industry is more likely.

I don't think it would take exorbitant funds to rehabilitate the Edward jones to be competitive. I think it would be hard to argue that St. Louis isn't a better market then Jacksonville or that even now the Edward Jones isn't better then the Jaguars stadium.

If anything they're about on the same level with Everbank having the edge. Edward Jones is so dreary and soulless...

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May 15th, 2012, 06:12 PM	#41
*RMB2007* Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,255 Likes (Received): 225	And its likely future if the Rams do indeed decide to leave town?

May 17th, 2012, 06:44 AM	#58
dfwabel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 190 Likes (Received): 0	Remember, now that both the Rams and the CVC have given each other proposals, they will now go to arbitration in June. Apparently (and I use that loosely), the CVC is the party which can make the arbitor's decision binding, not the Rams.