daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on one

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > European Forums > UK & Ireland Architecture Forums > Projects and Construction > Scotland and Glasgow Architecture Forum > Glasgow Metro Area

Glasgow Metro Area Architecture, Design and Urban Issues in Glasgow


Global Announcement

SkyscraperCity needs your help to do some house cleaning! please click here for more info!



Reply

 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old May 7th, 2012, 07:02 PM   #181
milton
A new low
 
milton's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,382
Likes (Received): 92

...and:

Quote:
Originally Posted by milton View Post
Quote:
Questions over BBC Scotland’s election figure claims
SUNDAY, 06 MAY 2012

By Martin Kelly

The BBC is today facing questions over their reporting of Scotland’s local authority election results after figures reported by the broadcaster gave the impression that Labour had outgunned the SNP in terms of councillors gained.

According to BBC Scotland, Labour gained an extra 58 councillors to the SNP’s 57 after Friday’s count. However it has emerged that the more accurate figures indicate the SNP gained 61 councillors to Labour’s 48.

The anomaly is thought to be down to BBC Scotland ignoring the widely accepted method of comparing election results with those of the previous election when calculating gains. The broadcaster has instead chosen to calculate changes based on council standings the day before last Thursday’s election.

The method adopted by BBC Scotland means that a party who won a ward in 2007 would be shown as having gained the ward in 2012 if the 2007 councillor subsequently left the party and the voters opted for the same party again.

In Glasgow for example, where several Labour councillors resigned from the party weeks before the local elections, these have been designated Labour gains if voters from the ward again opted for Labour – which is exactly what happened.

Evidence of just how bizarre BBC Scotland’s calculations are, can be seen in the result for Glasgow where a new party, set up by disaffected former Labour councillors, won their first ever seat. Glasgow First, despite never having stood in any elections prior to Thursday’s vote, are reported by BBC Scotland to have lost seats!

Others who disagree with BBC Scotland’s figures include Scottish Television who accurately reported a 61 seat gain for the SNP against a 48 seat gain for Labour.

http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php...-figure-claims

Quote:
Final analysis confirms SNP election triumph as more doubts cast on BBC figures

The final breakdown of results from Scotland’s local authority elections has confirmed the SNP as the most popular party nationwide.

Detailed analysis published by the SNP confirms that, for the first time in its history in a local government election, the party outpolled all others in terms of first preference votes.

Last Thursday’s showing was an improvement from 2007, where despite winning more seats than Labour, the SNP were behind in the vote count.

In Thursday’s election however the SNP overtook Labour in gains and number of councillors and crucially increased its vote share to 32.32%, with Labour behind on 31.39%.

This represents a 4.46% increase on the SNP’s 2007 performance, against a Labour vote rise of 3.24%. The figures also show the Tory vote fell by 2.26% and the Lib Dem vote was down by 6.10%.


In addition, the SNP was the party with the most first preference votes in 16 councils, compared to 14 for Labour. The increase in vote share was accompanied by a doubling of the SNP’s lead in seats over Labour, from 15 in 2007 to 30 this year.

The analysis also revealed that the number of SNP council seats increased by 62, and not 61 as previously thought. The SNP won 424 seats – an increase of 17%. Labour increased their number of councillors by 46 to 394 – a 13% increase.

However it has also emerged that the system adopted by the BBC to calculate party gains in Scotland may have broken the broadcaster's own election guidelines.

SNP Campaign Director Derek Mackay said:

“This was a triple success for the SNP – more votes, more councillors, and more gains than any other party, which means that with over half-a-million votes we are in an even stronger position to represent and deliver for local people.

“There can be no doubt about who the winner was in this election - the SNP have now won four out of the last five national elections in Scotland – and we also beat Labour in terms of the increase in votes and increase in number of councillors.

“For a party to achieve this five years into government is truly remarkable, and stands in stark contrast to the hammering that the coalition parties suffered north and south of the Border - only two years into their administration.

“The Lib Dems performed disastrously – but so too did the Tories, whose vote fell back in Scotland even from their low water mark of 2007.

“Labour may have gained 13% more seats in Scotland – compared to the SNP’s 17% increase – but their performance north of the Border was nothing like that in England, where they increased their number of seats by 82%. It’s not just a tale of two governments – it’s also a tale of two oppositions as well.

“SNP Council groups all over Scotland will now work with others and with the Scottish Government to deliver the progressive policies that we all want to see.”

The confirmation of a 62 seat gain is not accepted by the BBC in Scotland who continue to insist that the SNP gained only 57 seats, one less than Labour who the broadcaster claims won an extra 58.

However the methodology used by the broadcaster, where it ignored the 2007 election results, has been challenged by many observers.

It has also emerged that the system employed by the BBC is at odds with the broadcaster’s own guidelines published in April of this year.

According to the BBC online guideline called for ‘A glossary of election terms for Vote 2012’, a gain is defined as: "If a party wins a seat that it did not win at the last general[sic] election this is described as a ‘gain’".


Many of the gains attributed to the Labour party were in fact seats they won at the previous election in 2007 and, according to the guidelines, should not have been counted as gains but as holds.



http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php...on-bbc-figures

Oh dear.
If people still do not believe there is a level of bias that is counter to the BBC's charter, maybe things like these will change some minds.
milton no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
 
Old May 7th, 2012, 08:10 PM   #182
Weegie38
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 216
Likes (Received): 4

Anyone wanting some good ward-by-ward analysis of the Glasgow result, should head over to Lallands Peat Worrier's blog.

It's a lot to trawl through, and LPW hasn't done a summary piece yet. However the picture I get from it, is that the SNP made the opposite mistake to the one they made in 2007 - overconfidence this time, instead of caution. For instance, the result in the Govan ward shows that, had they only run 2 candidates, they'd have had 2 councillors.

Their first priority should have been to make sure Labour couldn't win a majority, rather than trying for a majority themselves.
Weegie38 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 7th, 2012, 08:22 PM   #183
Ultima
18 September 2014
 
Ultima's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,947
Likes (Received): 144

Quote:
Originally Posted by milton View Post
...and:



If people still do not believe there is a level of bias that is counter to the BBC's charter, maybe things like these will change some minds.
The BBC also posted a video of Alex Salmond under their results, where he claims to have made more gains than Labour. Contrast this with their oh so trusty chart above and they show the Labour party making more gains. The result is Salmond looks delusional or like he is lying. I couldn't get my head around the seat increase figures when I saw them and wondered if the source I had for the previous year was wrong. It's unreal the BBC can manipulate the result like this. It is absolutely an attempt to make the Labour party look better and for this, they are violating any attempt at impartiality. With regards to the Glasgow First party losing seats, I thought this must be an error in the BBC's system. The method they used to calculate that is totally ridiculous. How can Glasgow First possibly lose seats when they have never had seats before? They lost votes before anybody had voted for them? Lost a contest they never took part in? Fuck sake, BBC.
__________________
http://www.yesscotland.net/ - Over 372,000 people in Scotland have signed the YES to independence declaration. Sign up here!

http://www.facebook.com/YesScotland - the YES to Scottish independence campaign on Facebook
Ultima no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 7th, 2012, 09:09 PM   #184
M_Riaz
MORI
 
M_Riaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 8,192
Likes (Received): 113

__________________
Memento mori-Remember that you are mortal!
M_Riaz no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 8th, 2012, 12:34 AM   #185
Quirinalian
Registered User
 
Quirinalian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 746
Likes (Received): 47

Quote:
Originally Posted by milton View Post
Quelle surprise. Better the devil you know is one thing, but when traditionally Labour areas in Glasgow we come dead last in half the league tables there are on life expectancy, unemployment, health, etc. etc., I'm slightly bewildered as to what exactly you think anyone else could do that would be worse.
I'm not entirely certain what a city council can do about that. Glasgow suffers from a lot of problems, in common with other cities around the country, because it was subject to an industrial boom which then collapsed as our economy moved towards a move service-focused one. When you start considering regeneration schemes, health strategies and all that, they pale into utter insignificance in contrast with these economic problems.

With that point out of the way, I think Glasgow has definitely made significant progress since the 1970s. There was a major campaign to attract investment and change the city's image (backed, incidentally, by Maggie Thatcher, Neil Kinnock, David Owen and David Steel - who all appeared on the side of Glasgow buses for a time). I'd say it's been a pretty decent success. Since then, Glasgow has carved out a real role for itself - it is the retail capital of Scotland, attracts a number of skilled sectors like the media and has actually done well out of the traditionally Edinburgh-centric financial services' market.

Unlike Aberdeen with its oil, Glasgow has had to recreate itself out of its own work. Increasingly it's even being seen as a tourist and cultural destination rivaling almost anything north of Manchester. That's a real mark of success - and I suspect with that issues surrounding health, crime and so forth will largely sort themselves out.
Quirinalian no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 8th, 2012, 12:36 AM   #186
Quirinalian
Registered User
 
Quirinalian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 746
Likes (Received): 47

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gap74 View Post
Well, if nothing else, Labour's majority in Glasgow does at least mean that, if I check back in a year or so, the dreadful buses situation in the city will be fixed. They did say they would do that, right? They wouldn't make that claim then change absolutely nothing, right...?
Without actually knowing what's wrong with Glasgow buses, it would probably be wise to give them their five year term to fix it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultima View Post
The leader also said they were definitely going to improve George Square too.
My only real complaint with it is that awful colour they use for the ground and the removal of the grassy areas - although I can see the benefit when it is used for events.
Quirinalian no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 8th, 2012, 01:25 AM   #187
Ultima
18 September 2014
 
Ultima's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,947
Likes (Received): 144

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quirinalian View Post
Increasingly it's even being seen as a tourist and cultural destination rivaling almost anything north of Manchester.
Where south of Manchester is a bigger cultural destination? Besides London? Birmingham certainly isn't. Unless you mean historical towns?
__________________
http://www.yesscotland.net/ - Over 372,000 people in Scotland have signed the YES to independence declaration. Sign up here!

http://www.facebook.com/YesScotland - the YES to Scottish independence campaign on Facebook
Ultima no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 8th, 2012, 12:21 PM   #188
ForzaD
Registered User
 
ForzaD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 278
Likes (Received): 59

On the subject of mayors. I remember reading an opinion of an MP in a Northern English city (can't remember who). He was saying that the North was being squeezed due to Boris and Westminster pushing for the South and Alex Salmond pushing for Scotland. Basically he thought that the north needed a political juggernaught like Salmond or Boris for them.

The point is, we don't need mayors in Scotland because we already have a First Minster who does the shouting.
ForzaD no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 8th, 2012, 01:44 PM   #189
Ultima
18 September 2014
 
Ultima's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,947
Likes (Received): 144

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForzaD View Post
On the subject of mayors. I remember reading an opinion of an MP in a Northern English city (can't remember who). He was saying that the North was being squeezed due to Boris and Westminster pushing for the South and Alex Salmond pushing for Scotland. Basically he thought that the north needed a political juggernaught like Salmond or Boris for them.

The point is, we don't need mayors in Scotland because we already have a First Minster who does the shouting.
The North, really everything from Manchester to Carlisle, is being squeezed because the Westminster government simply does not have a place for them in their economic plan. Scotland has renewables, food exports, tourism, professional services etc. Effectively, Scotland has its own economic model to follow, at least to some extent. Northern England is much more difficult and will be massively damaged by the continuing cuts from London. Spreading the BBC out from London to Salford was a good start but there needs to be more effort from Westminster to spread the wealth North, instead of expecting talented individuals to abandon the North at a chance of wealth in the South. It's not sustainable, especially as London becomes more and more expensive to lead a basic life in. I know talented professionals who have stayed in Glasgow and Edinburgh for this very reason.
__________________
http://www.yesscotland.net/ - Over 372,000 people in Scotland have signed the YES to independence declaration. Sign up here!

http://www.facebook.com/YesScotland - the YES to Scottish independence campaign on Facebook
Ultima no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 9th, 2012, 04:56 AM   #190
M_Riaz
MORI
 
M_Riaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 8,192
Likes (Received): 113

GCC

Local Election Results 2012

Wards
1 - Linn CLARK, Margot Scottish Liberal Democrats
CUNNING, Malcolm Robert Scottish Labour Party
DOCHERTY, Sadie Scottish Labour Party
ELDER, Glenn Alistair Scottish National Party (SNP)

2 - Newlands/Auldburn CURRAN, Stephen Scottish Labour Party
DOCHERTY, Josephine U Scottish National Party (SNP)
GILLAN, Emma Scottish Labour Party

3 - Greater Pollok BUTLER, Bill Scottish Labour Party
HUSSAIN, Rashid Scottish Labour Party
JAFFRI, Shabbar Scottish National Party (SNP)
MCDONALD, David Scottish National Party (SNP)

4 - Craigton GIBSON, Iris Scottish National Party (SNP)
KERR, Matt Scottish Labour Party
TORRANCE, Jim Scottish National Party (SNP)
WATSON, Alistair Scottish Labour Party

5 - Govan ADAMS, James Scottish Labour Party
DORNAN, Stephen Glasgow First
HUNTER, Allison Scottish National Party (SNP)
THOMAS, Fariha Scottish Labour Party

6 - Pollokshields MACLEOD, Norman Scottish National Party (SNP)
MEIKLE, David Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party
RAJA, Hanif Scottish Labour Party

7 - Langside AITKEN, Susan Scottish National Party (SNP)
GRAHAM, Archie The Labour and Co-Operative Party Candidate
HAINEY, Liam Scottish Green Party

8 - Southside Central HANIF, Jahangir Scottish National Party (SNP)
HUNTER, Mhairi Scottish National Party (SNP)
SCANLON, James Scottish Labour Party
SIDDIQUE, Soryia Scottish Labour Party

9 - Calton KUCUK, Yvonne Scottish Labour Party
REDMOND, George Scottish Labour Party
THEWLISS, Alison Scottish National Party (SNP)

10 - Anderston/City BAKER, Nina Scottish Green Party
BRAAT, Philip Scottish Labour Party
DOCHERTY, Martin John Scottish National Party (SNP)
MATHESON, Gordon Scottish Labour Party

11 - Hillhead ANDREW, Ken Scottish National Party (SNP)
MCELROY, Martin Scottish Labour Party
MCKEEVER, Pauline Ann Scottish Labour Party
WARDROP, Martha Scottish Green Party

12 - Partick West BARTOS, Martin Scottish Green Party
COLLERAN, Aileen Scottish Labour Party
DALTON, Feargal Scottish National Party (SNP)
MCLEAN, Kenny Scottish National Party (SNP)

13 - Garscadden/Scotstounhill CAMERON, Liz Scottish Labour Party
HENDRY, Graeme Andrew Scottish National Party (SNP)
KELLY, John Scottish Labour Party
ROONEY, Paul Scottish Labour Party

14 - Drumchapel/Anniesland BALFOUR, Malcolm Scottish National Party (SNP)
CAREY, Paul Scottish Labour Party
FINDLAY, Jon Scottish Labour Party
FISHER, Judith Scottish Labour Party

15 - Maryhill/Kelvin LETFORD, John Scottish National Party (SNP)
RAZAQ, Mohammed Scottish Labour Party
RHODES, Martin Scottish Labour Party
SCALLY, Franny Scottish National Party (SNP)

16 - Canal KELLY, Chris Scottish Labour Party
MCALLISTER, Billy Scottish National Party (SNP)
STEPHEN, Helen Scottish Labour Party
WILD, Kieran Scottish Green Party

17 - Springburn DAVIDSON, Gilbert Scottish Labour Party
GREENE, Phil Scottish National Party (SNP)
STEWART, Allan Scottish Labour Party

18 - East Centre DOCHERTY, Frank Scottish Labour Party
DUNN, Jennifer Scottish National Party (SNP)
MCDOUGALL, Elaine Scottish Labour Party
ROBERTSON, Russell Scottish Labour Party

19 - Shettleston MCAVEETY, Frank Scottish Labour Party
MCLAUGHLIN, John Scottish National Party (SNP)
RYAN, George Scottish Labour Party
SIMPSON, Anne Scottish Labour Party

20 - Baillieston COLEMAN, James Scottish Labour Party
GARRITY, Marie Scottish Labour Party
SHERIDAN, Austin Scottish National Party (SNP)
TURNER, David Jamieson Scottish National Party (SNP)

21 - North East BOYLE, Gerry Scottish National Party (SNP)
BURKE, Maureen Scottish Labour Party
LEONARD, Gerry Scottish Labour Party
SINGH, Sohan Scottish Labour Party
__________________
Memento mori-Remember that you are mortal!
M_Riaz no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 10th, 2012, 02:54 PM   #191
Ahhhh
Relaxed
 
Ahhhh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Glasgow Area
Posts: 1,195
Likes (Received): 1

Oh deary me!

http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/99135-mi...hange-results/

Quote:
Election recount for Glasgow after votes in ballot box not included
Quote:
Glasgow City Council is set to hold a recount for a city ward after it emerged hundreds of votes cast had not been included in the official count.

The mistake is thought to have come to light after the Battlefield Primary ballot box in Langside was registered as having no votes.

It is thought that the box contains around 385 votes, which although scanned and registered, were not added to the final tally.

The missing votes could be enough to change the overall result for the ward.

Glasgow City Council is now seeking court approval to look at the votes and possibly hold a recount.

Susan Aitken, SNP, Archie Graham of Labour and Liam Hainey of the Scottish Green Party were all elected last week.

It is understood that the "missing" votes would not affect the result for Councillor Aitken or Councillor Graham.

But Councillor Hainey could have his seat taken off of him in the recount.

The Green councillor received 551 votes in the election. He was followed closely behind by the SNP's Alex Hewetson who had 615 and the Conservative candidate Russell Maitland Munn who had 478 votes.

The ward is also where the Liberal Democrat leader in Glasgow, Paul Coleshill, lost his seat. He could also be in the running again after he received 470 votes.

Speaking of the missing votes, Mr Coleshill said: "Clearly there was a mistake in the process. Clearly the chief returning officer didn't do his job or one of his agents.

"There was talk of having the recount on Thursday which is absurd as the first full council meeting is that day.

"I ought not to be amazed by the things that happen. I'm just astounded that in a country that prides itself on very careful election procedures that they could overlook 365 ballot papers.

"It does throw into question every other result."

SNP MSP James Dornan is calling on Glasgow City Council to recount ballots as soon as possible.

Mr Dornan, who was an election agent for the Langside ward, said it was “extremely disappointing” that ballots which were scanned were not included in the count and demanded an immediate explanation from Glasgow City Council.

Mr Dornan said: "Glasgow City Council cannot delay – officials must arrange a recount immediately for the sake of the affected council candidates and the reputation of the competence of the council.

"I understand they need to go to court to get permission but Glasgow must make every effort to get a fresh and accurate result as soon as possible to ensure people have confidence in the election.

"It is extremely disappointing this has been allowed to happen and the worry is this may not be an isolated incident.

"It seems ballots were scanned but not included in the count, despite the machines being set up to prevent this. Glasgow must explain how that was allowed to happen. Did someone override the machine?

"City council chiefs must give the people of this city guarantees that Glasgow will review its procedures to ensure this hasn’t happened elsewhere.

"This ward must be recounted before the first meeting of the full council – which is set to take place next Thursday."

A spokesman for the council said that they were currently looking into how the mistake happened.
Ahhhh no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 10th, 2012, 07:46 PM   #192
Jamandell (d69)
Rocking at Glasgow Uni
 
Jamandell (d69)'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 2,649
Likes (Received): 9

I'm friends with Liam Hainey, he's the current Hon Sec of one of our unions. It would be awful for him if he were to have this taken away from him after he was so pleasantly surprised with his win.
Jamandell (d69) no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 10th, 2012, 07:49 PM   #193
milton
A new low
 
milton's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,382
Likes (Received): 92

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamandell (d69) View Post
I'm friends with Liam Hainey, he's the current Hon Sec of one of our unions. It would be awful for him if he were to have this taken away from him after he was so pleasantly surprised with his win.
I personally will be gutted if he loses it, having him elected in the ward really cheered me up.
milton no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 11th, 2012, 06:53 PM   #194
ill tonkso
Portsmouths Finest, Maybe
 
ill tonkso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 14,080
Likes (Received): 240

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultima View Post
Where south of Manchester is a bigger cultural destination? Besides London? Birmingham certainly isn't. Unless you mean historical towns?
Bristol.
ill tonkso está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old May 15th, 2012, 06:07 PM   #195
M_Riaz
MORI
 
M_Riaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 8,192
Likes (Received): 113

Tuesday 15 May 2012

ET

Hendry to lead SNP on City Council


GLASGOW'S nationalist councillors have elected Graeme Hendry to lead them in opposition.
The councillor for Garscadden and Scotstounhill will head up a new SNP team in Glasgow City Council which was elected at yesterday's SNP annual meeting.
He will replace Govan councillor Allison Hunter in the top spot.
As reported in the Evening Times last week, Mr Hendry, who played a visible role in the party's election campaign, was tipped for the post after the future of Ms Hunter was thrown into question when the SNP lost out in the council elections.
But critics have said the results are not seen as a disaster for the party, which, despite Labour gaining an overall majority, won an additional seven seats, increasing its presence to 27 out of 79 council seats.
Councillor Billy McAllister, who represented Canal ward, was elected his deputy.
Mr Hendry's former post as Business Manager went to Councillor David McDonald, who represents Greater Pollok, and Ms Hunter was elected deputy business manager and group whip.
Mr Hendry said he was looking forward to the challenges of holding Labour to account and ensuring the council connected better with the people of Glasgow.
He added: "Our work begins now to put in place a team from this talented group which will continue to hold Labour to account and start developing ideas to help this great city.
"Our positive vision for Glasgow saw our group increase to 27 councillors – more than one-third of the total."
__________________
Memento mori-Remember that you are mortal!
M_Riaz no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 15th, 2012, 06:49 PM   #196
RapidTaco
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 1,454
Likes (Received): 26

Quote:
Originally Posted by M_Riaz
Tuesday 15 May 2012

ET

Hendry to lead SNP on City Council

GLASGOW'S nationalist councillors have elected Graeme Hendry to lead them in opposition.
The councillor for Garscadden and Scotstounhill will head up a new SNP team in Glasgow City Council which was elected at yesterday's SNP annual meeting.
He will replace Govan councillor Allison Hunter in the top spot.
As reported in the Evening Times last week, Mr Hendry, who played a visible role in the party's election campaign, was tipped for the post after the future of Ms Hunter was thrown into question when the SNP lost out in the council elections.
But critics have said the results are not seen as a disaster for the party, which, despite Labour gaining an overall majority, won an additional seven seats, increasing its presence to 27 out of 79 council seats.
Councillor Billy McAllister, who represented Canal ward, was elected his deputy.
Mr Hendry's former post as Business Manager went to Councillor David McDonald, who represents Greater Pollok, and Ms Hunter was elected deputy business manager and group whip.
Mr Hendry said he was looking forward to the challenges of holding Labour to account and ensuring the council connected better with the people of Glasgow.
He added: "Our work begins now to put in place a team from this talented group which will continue to hold Labour to account and start developing ideas to help this great city.
"Our positive vision for Glasgow saw our group increase to 27 councillors – more than one-third of the total."
Anyone know what he's like? Is he any good? I really hope he can drive the SNP in Glasgow properly, as it was time for Alison Hunter to move on.
RapidTaco no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 5th, 2012, 04:46 AM   #197
لا إله إلا الله
n7ebek rou7y w 3omry
 
لا إله إلا الله's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Glasgow Dublin London Tunis
Posts: 101
Likes (Received): 0


Less than two-thirds if the SNP voters want independence, according to a
poll.
The survey suggests that 28per cent of party supporters would instead
opt for increased devlution while the remaining in the UK.

More than half of Labour voters and just under a third of Conservatives
would also back more power short of independence.

The resluts show an appetite for a DEvo Plus, according to a think-tank
Refrom Scotland.

The system would give Holyrood powers for setting income and corporation tax,
as well as assinging a geographic share of scotlands oil revenue.
The choice is not likely to feature on the ballot paper in the referendum in 2014 unless the Scottish and UK governments agree to a multi-option vote.
Reform Scotland chairman Ben Thomson said: ““Devo Plus is a solution around which all of Scotland’s political parties can coalesce.”
Jeremy Purvis, leader of the Devo Plus group, added: “It shows that most ordinary people across Scotland want parties to work together on how to deliver a stronger Scottish Parliament within the UK.”

__________________
لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله
لا إله إلا الله no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 5th, 2012, 10:53 AM   #198
Ultima
18 September 2014
 
Ultima's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,947
Likes (Received): 144

Quote:
Originally Posted by لا إله إلا الله View Post

Less than two-thirds if the SNP voters want independence, according to a
poll.
The survey suggests that 28per cent of party supporters would instead
opt for increased devlution while the remaining in the UK.

More than half of Labour voters and just under a third of Conservatives
would also back more power short of independence.

The resluts show an appetite for a DEvo Plus, according to a think-tank
Refrom Scotland.

The system would give Holyrood powers for setting income and corporation tax,
as well as assinging a geographic share of scotlands oil revenue.
The choice is not likely to feature on the ballot paper in the referendum in 2014 unless the Scottish and UK governments agree to a multi-option vote.
Reform Scotland chairman Ben Thomson said: ““Devo Plus is a solution around which all of Scotland’s political parties can coalesce.”
Jeremy Purvis, leader of the Devo Plus group, added: “It shows that most ordinary people across Scotland want parties to work together on how to deliver a stronger Scottish Parliament within the UK.”

Devo Plus isn't even a legitimate option as it fails to address the massive shortfall with the tv license. It has been discredited already. Also, Hitler killed millions of jews, so nice choice of photo, you stupid arse.
__________________
http://www.yesscotland.net/ - Over 372,000 people in Scotland have signed the YES to independence declaration. Sign up here!

http://www.facebook.com/YesScotland - the YES to Scottish independence campaign on Facebook
Ultima no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 5th, 2012, 11:40 AM   #199
Squirrelking
Registered User
 
Squirrelking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 2,945
Likes (Received): 169

Wow, the TV licence. Literally THE hot topic on every Scots lips.

I can see how Devo Max/Plus/Xtreme is clearly off the table after such a massive oversight.
Squirrelking no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 5th, 2012, 02:04 PM   #200
Ultima
18 September 2014
 
Ultima's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,947
Likes (Received): 144

Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirrelking View Post
Wow, the TV licence. Literally THE hot topic on every Scots lips.

I can see how Devo Max/Plus/Xtreme is clearly off the table after such a massive oversight.
the naivety.

It's been singled out as something the Devo Plus campaign won't devolve despite being worth £100,000,000+ to Scotland in lost revenue. Small change to you obviously, SquirrelKing.
__________________
http://www.yesscotland.net/ - Over 372,000 people in Scotland have signed the YES to independence declaration. Sign up here!

http://www.facebook.com/YesScotland - the YES to Scottish independence campaign on Facebook
Ultima no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like v3.1.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2013 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2013 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. (Resources saved on this page: MySQL 20.00%)

SkyscraperCity ☆ High there, what's up!

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu