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Old May 16th, 2012, 09:02 PM   #18481
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A quickie in the sunshine from the Airport Line - Moor Road stop.

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Track finished, platforms almost complete, great stuff!
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Old May 16th, 2012, 09:56 PM   #18482
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Cheers Martin, nice one! Fancy those platforms having now to stay there for four years before coming into use . . . still, the umbrello at Central Park has waited for at least seven.

In the June edition of 'To-day's Railways' they publish a similar photo which they describe as Martinscroft, but it's actually Benchill.

Meanwhile, over at the Electric Circus, Collyhurst, the Skids are playing 'Into the Valley' . . .



















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Old May 16th, 2012, 10:35 PM   #18483
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Good picture Martin and Johnny hopely in three weeks time Oldham line will opened and we all be going up and down that line hopely

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Old May 17th, 2012, 12:57 AM   #18484
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Seems a few of us were out and about in the sunshine today - I had a walk into town along Ashton New Road before jumping on a tram to the Quays. Near Clayton Hall they were grinding small grooves in the concrete, alongside the rails. I just missed the actual grinding, they were brushing it clean when I passed. Any idea why they do this? The only thing I can think of is to give a bit more grip to car tyres when they are on the rails......



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Old May 17th, 2012, 08:30 AM   #18485
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Seems a few of us were out and about in the sunshine today - I had a walk into town along Ashton New Road before jumping on a tram to the Quays. Near Clayton Hall they were grinding small grooves in the concrete, alongside the rails. I just missed the actual grinding, they were brushing it clean when I passed. Any idea why they do this? The only thing I can think of is to give a bit more grip to car tyres when they are on the rails......


I think its done to ensure that the concrete is below rail head level so the tram wheel tread does end up running on the concrete as the tyre wear slightly hollow. The Metrolink wheel profile does overlap the rail head slightly.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 09:59 AM   #18486
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I'm glad they've left room for cyclists in the layout. You'd think it would be obvious, but not so for the designers/engineers in Sheffield. As a cyclist, Langsett Road is a nightmare - there's no room for trams to overtake you. So you have three options - cycle at 20mph to keep ahead, illegally pedal on the pavement for a bit or get a blast from the horn of doom...

Then you have the issue of the stops themselves, that mean the gap to the left of the rail narrows to a foot or so, or you have to bunny-hop over the rail.

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Old May 17th, 2012, 12:23 PM   #18487
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Can somebody technical please explain the meaning of "clip and scotch the points"? Exactly what is involved and why is it done. Ta.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 12:38 PM   #18488
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Clipping & scotching points

Points are clipped and scotched if they are not locked by the signalling system (in this case of course the signalling has not been commissioned). They are clipped and scotched to prevent the point blades from moving under the vehicle. The clip holds the point blade and the rail together and the scotch is a block of wood which keeps the other point blade and the other rail apart.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 01:00 PM   #18489
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Points are clipped and scotched if they are not locked by the signalling system (in this case of course the signalling has not been commissioned). They are clipped and scotched to prevent the point blades from moving under the vehicle. The clip holds the point blade and the rail together and the scotch is a block of wood which keeps the other point blade and the other rail apart.
It's not a fun job. Much better to have a functioning signalling system.

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Old May 17th, 2012, 01:58 PM   #18490
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Points are clipped and scotched if they are not locked by the signalling system (in this case of course the signalling has not been commissioned). They are clipped and scotched to prevent the point blades from moving under the vehicle. The clip holds the point blade and the rail together and the scotch is a block of wood which keeps the other point blade and the other rail apart.
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Great pictures Martin, Johnny and Vincent.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 02:37 PM   #18491
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Nice pics guys, am i the only one that misses the orange and brown round manchester, i wonder what a tram would look like if one got painted into GM Buses livery.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 04:16 PM   #18492
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Nice pics guys, am i the only one that misses the orange and brown round manchester, i wonder what a tram would look like if one got painted into GM Buses livery.
You're certainly not only one!

I miss the conformity of pte bus liveries. I also miss the blue and grey liveries of British Rail.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 05:37 PM   #18493
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TFGM,GMPTE or whatever they called these days, should do a london and put the buses that run around the region of greater manchester into orange and brown;image hosted on flickr

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Old May 17th, 2012, 06:04 PM   #18494
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Cheers guys. Wonder how this will compare! Suppose I'll have to wait a few years for the answer....

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Martin not quite. There's too much space in between Newton Heath and Failsworth. Then again that's my eye for you.
Excellent map! have you thought about adding in the possible Marple tram/train route?, as that will no-doubt be operated by Metrolink, and was in the original plans all those years ago?

Although I wouldn't do the route to stockport via East Didsbury,(too long a Journey) I'd place it off the Marple route & follow the old alignment of the Trans-Pennine trail, Taking in Brinnington, Portwood (for TESCO & the retail park) & then road into Stockport.

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Old May 17th, 2012, 07:42 PM   #18495
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Is a first time today that I seen tram on the Oldham line saying St Werburgh's Road on it, I was going to take picture of it but it shot off bye the time I got my phone out.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 07:43 PM   #18496
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Here's a few shots of the training/testing between Monsall and Central Park :-









Heading for Monsall :-



One down, one up :-







Another one :-









Two :-





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Old May 17th, 2012, 07:46 PM   #18497
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Although I wouldn't do my route to stockport via East Didsbury,(too long a Journey)
I believe the idea isn't for end-to-end journeys (which are already served by the mainline), but to open up Stockport for shorter journeys. Personally I'd have the Met running as far as Stockport rail station for fully-connected-up-ness (and we're venturing dangerously in the 'Metrolink future' thread territory)
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Old May 17th, 2012, 07:49 PM   #18498
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Great pics, but they need to do something about the flytipping.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 07:52 PM   #18499
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Here's a few shots of the training/testing between Monsall and Central Park :-




Heading for Monsall :-

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Good picture at Central Park Johnny I see u took picture of tram saying Oldham Mumps on it and I'm bit surprise they where two trams closes to each other at Central Park, Wonder if we will see Double M5000 trams on Oldham line like we did on Chorlton line when they word testing the trams out or driving training?
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Old May 17th, 2012, 08:26 PM   #18500
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Nice pics guys, am i the only one that misses the orange and brown round manchester, i wonder what a tram would look like if one got painted into GM Buses livery.
I'm not sure of the M5000s in orange and brown, but GMPTE had these illustrations drawn up featuring possible GM-livery trams (other renderings exist):

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