|
|
| daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on one |
May 16th, 2012, 06:05 PM
|
#341 | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Paris/ FES Historic Capital Of Morrocco
Posts: 6,684
Likes (Received): 196
|
Quote:
 Une classe a Taounate et avec plus de visages que ta photo... [IMG]image hosted on flickr  [/IMG]
__________________
"Le Maroc est un lion qu'il faut mener avec une ficelle". Mohamed V |
|
|
|
| Sponsored Links | |||
|
|
May 16th, 2012, 09:02 PM
|
#342 |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 581
Likes (Received): 8
|
Fatima Zahra Bennis, born in Tetouan
 yes way...
__________________
'you will succeed,because you have enough brute force,but you will not convince.in order to convince it is necessary to persuade,and to persuade. you will need something that you lack:reason and right in the struggle' Miguel de Unamuno |
|
|
|
|
May 16th, 2012, 09:10 PM
|
#343 | |||
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Casa/London
Posts: 891
Likes (Received): 53
|
Quote:
 ...but that girl is not moroccanQuote:
Quote:
|
|||
|
|
|
|
May 16th, 2012, 09:12 PM
|
#344 | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Casa/London
Posts: 891
Likes (Received): 53
|
Quote:
 is not bennis an arab name? |
|
|
|
|
|
May 16th, 2012, 09:27 PM
|
#345 | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Casa/London
Posts: 891
Likes (Received): 53
|
Quote:
believe me, you can find similar people in doukkala, except the boy with the strange look the small boy has a santi7a maghribiya madeleine maccan look-alike parents look typical moroccans...the girl's hair with turn brown soon.... asarou is trying to build a stereotype of the rif region and this can only lead to....you can work out the rest 
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 16th, 2012, 09:41 PM
|
#346 |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Casa/London
Posts: 891
Likes (Received): 53
|
[QUOTE=adamelstar;91446073]La majorité des Rifains, des Jbalas et des Berberes du moyen Atlas ne sont pas typé, si tu dis l'inverse c'est que tu connais mal ces gens la ou pas assez !
Et puis il y a des migrations au Maroc, tu trouves beaucoup de gens de partout au Maroc dans la zone Jbala (Tanger Tetouan, Larrache etc...), et pareil dans la zone Rif il n'y a beaucoup de non Rifains sur Nador, Hoceima etc... Un Marrakchi qui vit a Tanger n'est pas Jebli, un Fassi qui vit a Casa reste un Fassi, un Doukkali a Nador n'est pas Rifain, etc etc... Tu es Fassi il me semble, tu devrai le savoir...par exemple il reste tres peu de vrais Fassis a Fes... Une personne clairs aux yeux clairs au Maroc sera dans 90% des cas soit Riffains, soit Jebli, soit du moyen Atlas, apres ca ne veut pas dire qu'ils le sont tous, il faut savoir faire la nuance ! Et il y a des sources et des etudes qui le prouvent..., notament de l'anthropologue Americain Carlton Coon, qui ccompare le Rif et Nord du Moyen Atlas aux Europeens... books.nap.edu/html/biomems/ccoon.pdf  i am sorry but what you are saying is really funny...so if there is a blond doukkali then he is likely to be from the Rif...ha ha ha my father's mother had silky red hair (maybe she was rifia) ...my mother's granny was actually from Rif but she was not "Nordic"...my cousin's daughter is blond with green eyes seriously, what you said is funny
|
|
|
|
|
May 16th, 2012, 09:45 PM
|
#347 | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Paris/ FES Historic Capital Of Morrocco
Posts: 6,684
Likes (Received): 196
|
Quote:
 Rif, Doukkalis, Chaouis, Middle Atlas, Jebli, Fassi, Chleuhs, Soussi, we are all Morrocans and it is the most important... 
__________________
"Le Maroc est un lion qu'il faut mener avec une ficelle". Mohamed V Last edited by adamelstar; May 16th, 2012 at 09:56 PM. |
|
|
|
|
|
May 16th, 2012, 10:01 PM
|
#348 | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 581
Likes (Received): 8
|
Quote:
to make it short,some of my relatives specially females , do have a gracile Euro look and traits, and will not be noticed anywhere in Europe.. I guess you will not have had any objection , if it was a 100% looking black Moroccan from a Draa valley village for example....because you are more familiar with that type of phenotype ... in brief ,personal assumptions based on daily observations matter less in a landscape of a long complex fragmented genetic history that is North Africa..
__________________
'you will succeed,because you have enough brute force,but you will not convince.in order to convince it is necessary to persuade,and to persuade. you will need something that you lack:reason and right in the struggle' Miguel de Unamuno |
|
|
|
|
|
May 16th, 2012, 10:02 PM
|
#349 | ||
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Casa/London
Posts: 891
Likes (Received): 53
|
Quote:
...just kiddingQuote:
|
||
|
|
|
|
May 16th, 2012, 10:04 PM
|
#350 | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 581
Likes (Received): 8
|
Quote:
the majority of the mtDNA female lineages in North Africa ,are of southwest European origin.. ever heard about the Taforalt remains ?
__________________
'you will succeed,because you have enough brute force,but you will not convince.in order to convince it is necessary to persuade,and to persuade. you will need something that you lack:reason and right in the struggle' Miguel de Unamuno |
|
|
|
|
|
May 16th, 2012, 10:10 PM
|
#351 | ||
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Casa/London
Posts: 891
Likes (Received): 53
|
Quote:
Quote:
|
||
|
|
|
|
May 16th, 2012, 10:39 PM
|
#352 | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Casa/London
Posts: 891
Likes (Received): 53
|
Quote:
as for the Taforalt remains, honestly never heard of it...12000 years!! does it proves that all blond Rifians are ibermaurisian? not quite. they could be descended of vandals, visigots,...or they might have arrived later when the muslims were chucked out of spain....anything is possible. but to use carefully selected photos and some statisitics can be very misleading |
|
|
|
|
|
May 16th, 2012, 11:17 PM
|
#353 | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 581
Likes (Received): 8
|
Quote:
__________________
'you will succeed,because you have enough brute force,but you will not convince.in order to convince it is necessary to persuade,and to persuade. you will need something that you lack:reason and right in the struggle' Miguel de Unamuno |
|
|
|
|
|
May 17th, 2012, 07:01 AM
|
#354 | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Casa/London
Posts: 891
Likes (Received): 53
|
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 17th, 2012, 10:07 AM
|
#355 | ||
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 581
Likes (Received): 8
|
Quote:
the coastal mediterranean populations historically received most of the migration waves from the East and naturally those from the mediterranean basin... Quote:
population groups existed way before the imposed artificial state nations that colonialism created , there is no such thing as a " Moroccan look" , there are so many variations and looks within a single region and even within a single tribe.. you certainly mixing your political views (due to your ideological indoctrination by the state) with a different reality on the ground....Morocco is an idea , a dream perhaps or a goal...but it did not exist before colonialism.
__________________
'you will succeed,because you have enough brute force,but you will not convince.in order to convince it is necessary to persuade,and to persuade. you will need something that you lack:reason and right in the struggle' Miguel de Unamuno |
||
|
|
|
|
May 17th, 2012, 11:53 AM
|
#356 | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Casablanca/Kuala Lumpur
Posts: 1,670
Likes (Received): 15
|
Quote:
Secondly, you assuming that Morocco did not exist before 1912 thats just very disturbingly ignorant, the first fact is that Morocco as a state have never been colonized or fully conquered in 12 centuries, it have been under french protectorate for 40 years with an effective rule over the middle part of the country for less than 12 years. The idea, goal or dream called Morocco as you say have been in the mind of its inhabitant for at least 8 centuries, not counting the beginning with idrissids, those are facts known by everyone, no need to play it "free mind" hipster Moroccan, foreign ignorant/hater or whatever the hell you are |
|
|
|
|
|
May 17th, 2012, 01:31 PM
|
#357 | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Paris/ FES Historic Capital Of Morrocco
Posts: 6,684
Likes (Received): 196
|
Quote:
Quand a la difference Marocains, Algeriens , Tunisiens ou autres , elle est impossible car les Marocains ne se ressemblent pas d'une region a une autre, un Fassi ne ressemble pas a un Marrakchi il ressemble plus aux Andalous de Tlemcen..., un Rifain ne ressemble pas a un Doukkali ou Casaoui, un Figuiguien ne ressemble pas a un Sahraoui, un Jebli ne ressemble pas a un Soussi... c'est pareil en Algerie un Kabyle ne ressemble pas a un Touareg, un Annabi ressemble plus a un Tunisien qu'a un Algerien de Tlemcen, a l'inverse un Algerien Tlemcenien ressemble plus a un Fassi Marocain qu'a un chaoui... C'est complexe, je sais , mais dans nos pays on peut passer d'un rouquin a un noir
__________________
"Le Maroc est un lion qu'il faut mener avec une ficelle". Mohamed V Last edited by adamelstar; May 17th, 2012 at 01:40 PM. |
|
|
|
|
|
May 17th, 2012, 01:38 PM
|
#358 | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Paris/ FES Historic Capital Of Morrocco
Posts: 6,684
Likes (Received): 196
|
Quote:
A Tlemcanis is cluster genetically with a Fassi rather than a Riffian... look at the look of Fes and Tlemcen this is the same... And I don't think that a Riffian or Jebli looks like a Tunisian from Djerba or Sfax there are more cluster with Libyans or Annabis from Extreme East Algeria, it's more difficult.
__________________
"Le Maroc est un lion qu'il faut mener avec une ficelle". Mohamed V Last edited by adamelstar; May 17th, 2012 at 03:08 PM. |
|
|
|
|
|
May 17th, 2012, 01:43 PM
|
#359 | ||
|
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Paris/ FES Historic Capital Of Morrocco
Posts: 6,684
Likes (Received): 196
|
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
"Le Maroc est un lion qu'il faut mener avec une ficelle". Mohamed V Last edited by adamelstar; May 17th, 2012 at 01:50 PM. |
||
|
|
|
|
May 17th, 2012, 08:19 PM
|
#360 | |||
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Casa/London
Posts: 891
Likes (Received): 53
|
Quote:
Quote:
my idea is this, most of those blonds came to morocco more recently, probably as late as the vandals, visigots and then the andalousian muslims...so these people mixed with the original amazigh and settled in. so you cant use this arguement to say that a Rifian or Jbalas should look like that because you are discounting the original amazigh people. which can be applied to you (i bet you like the sound of that ), probably your ancestors came with the vandals, settled in the Rif and mixed with the amzigh, took up the amazigh and now became proud amazigh and now you are saying that real Rifians should look like you which reminds me of what happened in scotland where anglo-saxons, after invading england, went as far north as western Scotland and settled there...now these germanic anglo-saxons became celtic and proud scottish who despise the english south of the border ignoring that they are actually also of anglo-saxon origin!! Quote:
but you might be completely wrong...i am a firm believer in the Barghouata confideration which was so powerful and rich that it lasted more than 400 years and alsothe Almohads...both entities were masmouda amazigh...the one and only true moroccan tribe...the rest all came later, including your blonds
|
|||
|
|
|
 |
| Tags |
| moroccan, portraits |
«
Previous Thread
|
Next Thread
»
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
Linear Mode
|
|
All times are GMT +2. The time now is 05:57 PM.