Somali Politics | Siyaasada Soomaalida

[Constantine MMX]

Have a good time.

[Ras Siyan]

Have a great time!

[Ayatulahi]

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Thanks Walaala-yaal

[jeffb]

I long for the day for Somalilands recognition by the international community.

[Mysterydude]

Beautiful girls.

Hambalyo!

[Ayatulahi]

[Xusein]

Xuuskii 18 May ee Virginia waan taagay, sawiro ma haysaan.

Laakiin, gabadha ugu quruxda badaneeeeeyyyyy.

[Dhuks]

Are you guys saying that Somaliland should be internationally recognised as belonging no more to Somalia? I know it has enjoyed semi autonomy for long but is there some general consensus from the other Somalis that they should be let off?

[Xusein]

If the opinion of the people there want to secede, they can't be forcibly chained forever.

[jeffb]

I do, not sure what fellow members on this form think.

[Ayatulahi]

Yes Somaliland shall be recognized.

[Ras Siyan]

Originally Posted by jeffb

I long for the day for Somalilands recognition by the international community.

I long for the day the Somalilanders will renounce this foolish secession in favor of federalism within Somalia.

No offense Slanders, but I prefer a united and strong Somalia than a collection of small Somali republics. I won't go further, enjoy your secession day

[Ayatulahi]

Ras Siyan that's Impossible sxb... 21 Years of good governance and democracy, Iska khasaarin maayo, inankii 1991 dhashay maanta 21 jir... Nabad ku caano maalay.

Sidaan ula midoobi karaa qof aan ii aqoonsanayn xataa waxaan qabsaday...XAASHEE NIN LIBIN KAA XISTIYAY XUMIHI WAA YAAB.

[Ayatulahi]

DHadhami waa yihii doraad, wixii dhacay dib ugu noqo.

[Ras Siyan]

Originally Posted by Ayatulahi

DHadhami waa yihii doraad, wixii dhacay dib ugu noqo.

Nidaam dowladeed ayaa dhibaato idiin geystay sxb, umada Somaliyed ma aha. Dowladii iyo dictator kii ka talinayay wey socdeen, miyaaney ka wanaagsaneyn in ad xaashkaa rogtaan ood ka gudubtaan?

As for the gouvernance and democracy in SL, why not make it the model of governance all over Somalia? Inta gooni-u-goosad lagu ordayo, miyaaney ka fiicneyn in experience ka Somalia oo dhan ka faa'ideysato?

Waan tagaa Somaliland, runtii na ma fahmo naceybka dad qaarkood ey u qabaan koonfur. Waa in la kala saaro dad iyo nidaam dowladeed. Siad Barre uu tagay, uu dhintay. Khalaas, waa in laga gudbo xumaantii hore oo aan qaranimadi iyo midnimadi Somaliyed loo baabiin khaladaad nin iyo dowlad tagay ey sameeyeen.

Riyadii hallowday!! Somaliyeey kaca toosa, waad qalibanteene.

For someone who has this signature, I expected a minimum of attachment to the Somalian unity.

[Ras Siyan]

Waan jeclahay in ey jirto Somalia mideysan o awood le' o barwaaqo ah. O kaalkeedii taariikhiga ahaa ka ciyaarta arimaha gobolka iyo dunida. Cadowgii baad u jabteen, dalalkii shalay dagaal ley isku hayay ayaa idinku kala dhex jira o idin ka faa'ideysanaya. Awey damiirkii Somaliyed? Awey isla weynidii nalagu yaqaaney?

Markaan arko sida konfurna u burbursantahay, idinkii roona na inta aad horaan ka gali leheydeen dib u dhiska qaranka, aad ka doorateen gooni-u-goosad, waan idinka niyad jabaa.

Anaku dal yar baanu nahay, magaceenii Somaliyed idinka ayaa sida, fadlan ha biinina more than you already did during the last 21 years

My 2 cents,

[juzme123]

Waaryaadheen siyaasada ha laga daayo threadka!!!

Qeybtani waa qeybta sawiradda... ama sawiro ku eekaada ama thread ka siyaasada loogu tala galay taga.

Kuwa ajahanabka ah ee su'aalaha iska yeel-yeelayana ha u jawaabina.

Waydun ku mahadsantihiin oo sii wada inaydun siyaasada Soomaalida u dhexaysa kaga hadashaan oo ku dhameysaan luqadeen (Soomaali) - saas aa la rabaa!

Laakiin fadlan hadalka badan iyo siyaasada inaga joojiya. Sawirrow ha lagu eekaado!

[Ayatulahi]

Ras Siyan sxb markay wax dhacaan, markiiba laguma cararo sidii waxan loo xalan lahaa, laakiin waxa la is waydiiyaa, waxan maxaa keenay, siduu waxani ku yimi...Makaa Somaliland Shacabkoodu waa dad kii ugu gorreeyay, ee go'aan sady inay Soomaaliya la midoobaan, oo Soomaali nimo iyo walaaltinimo anagaa jecel, oo xorriyaddii aanu ka hor qaadanay Somali oo dhan, midnimo awgeed u tuurnay, laakiin sxb waxaa wanaagsan inaaf fahanto, xaqiiqda dhabta ah.

Waa runtaa shacabka Somaliland waxaa dhibaato u gaystay nidam dawladeed, oo macan-gag ah, lakiin taas bedel keeda miyaany ahayn, in Somaliland iyo shacabkeeda la tuso sida looga xun yahay,wixii dawladdii kali talisku kula kacday...Iska da inay xataa ka xumaadaan walaalahayo e waxayba xataa taagan yihiin waxba la idinkuma samayn, iyo waliba inay dafiraan, xasuuqii ka dhacay gobolada waqooyi.

Ku darsoo sxb annagu Reer Somaliland ahaan waxaanu mar walba la jecel nahay walaalahayo, nabad, horumar, kala danbayn, iyo xasilooni buuxda.

Ras Siyan sxb wax walba waxay yimaadaan, marka wixii khalad dhacay la isu qiro,lana tuso reer Somaliland inaanay dadkii waxaa gaystay kuwan iminka jooga ahayn, laakiin se haddii dareento inaanay kuwii hore iyo kuwaniba waxba ku kala duwanayn, dee waa lasii kala fogaanayaa uun, Reer Soomaliya waxaadu waa khasab ksuoo noqda iyo shuruud la'aan iyagoo iska indha tiraya wax walba oo xaqiiq ah...Taasina suuro gal maaha.

@ Riyadii hilawday, anigu waxaan u sitaa Signature kan, in haddii xal la helayo ummadda Soomaaliyeed oo dhan la isku soo dhaweeyo oo heeryada-gumaystaha la iska tuuro... taasina waxay ku xidhan tahay uun, is fahan yimaada bulshada dhexdeeda.


FG: Anigu Soomaaliya ma necbi sxb iyo walaaltinimada laakiin waxaa wax walba kugu sii fogaanayaan, markaad aragto, halkii wax la isaga soo dhawaan lahaa oo la isa sii caydhinaayo.

[Ayatulahi]

LEWIS CENTER, Ohio — Twenty-one years ago this month, Somaliland was reborn when the tyrannical regime of Siad Barre collapsed.

Since then, the people of Somaliland, which is the northern part of Somalia, have established a country built on the principles of freedom and democracy. But they still await recognition by the world community including the United States.

Somaliland first won its independence from the British Empire on June 26, 1960, an event soon followed by recognition as a sovereign entity by the United Nations and 35 countries, the US among them.

But then, a week later, Somaliland voluntarily entered a union with what was at the time known as Italian Somaliland, to the south, creating modern-day Somalia. This was in response to the dreams of nationalists who wanted to unite the lands in which Somalis lived in the Horn of Africa region.

The hope that union would lead the Somalis into a free and democratic nation never materialized. Instead, the brutal military regime of Siad Barre took power from a nascent civilian government in 1969. Barre was a tyrant, described by some as in the mold of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, who held power for 21 years through military force, money from foreign donors and by manipulating the region's clan system.

Barre declared the majority of northern Somalis enemies of the state. They had legitimate grievances about his misrule, and the way in which the union between former British Somaliland and former Italian Somaliland was handled in 1960. Consequently, a political disenfranchisement and ruthless military campaign was unleashed against the civilian population. An insurrection followed and eventually, in 1991, the military regime collapsed.

Since then Somalia has been mired in chaos and violence. But Somaliland has succeeded in establishing a functioning government, with a constitution, defined borders and a flag. It is governed along democratic lines with pluralistic political institutions. In May 2001, its independence was supported in a referendum by more than 90 percent of the population. Two presidential elections took place with a peaceful transfer of power; one in 2003 and another in 2010. This summer, nine political parties are competing in local elections.

Despite its achievements, no country in the world has yet recognized Somaliland’s independence. The US State Department and the African Union each cling to the fiction that Somaliland is part of the failed state of Somalia. It would have made sense to award Somaliland the diplomatic recognition it deserves. Its brief history of freedom and democracy stand in stark contrast to the terrorism, reign of warlords and piracy that is rife in Somalia, where US President Barack Obama and the UN are expending vast resources to fund African troops, which are propping up the corrupt transitional Somali government.

The argument against Somaliland’s independence comes from the African Union (AU), which has been tough on Somaliland for creating an independent democratic state. There is understandable paranoia about accepting new states with shifting borders inherited from colonial powers in Africa. The AU’s argument to deny Somaliland sovereignty is not valid, however, because it has had defined colonial borders that were established at the time of independence.

The irony is that US State Department diplomats, for political reasons, endorsed the position of the African Union in order to appease other African leaders and to get their military support for America’s counter-terrorism efforts in Somalia.

For the last two decades, the international community has tried through outside military intervention and massive aid to reconstitute Somalia. These interventions have ended in catastrophic failure.

The United Nations is also arguing that recognizing Somaliland might hinder the UN-sponsored peace and reconciliation efforts for Somalia. Among these efforts is the US-backed “road map” for Somalia, which projects forming a new government at the end of the “transition” in mid-August. Most Somalis have no faith in the “road map” process, which seeks to reinforce and legitimize the nominal Somali government even though Somalia remains ravaged by violence and self-interested neighbors.

The world regards Somalia as a basket case, but Somaliland is not and deserves better. Recognizing independent Somaliland would have positive consequences, not just for Somalia, but also for the whole Horn of Africa region. Indeed, Somaliland is contributing the international community's efforts to combat piracy that plagues the Gulf of Aden and the Indian Ocean.

Keeping the status quo in Somalia would only prolong the human suffering there and spread radicalism and chaos that could engulf the region. In this scenario, diplomatic recognition for Somaliland would be unjustly denied and would further delay opportunity for investment, trade and economic growth.

Obama should do the right thing and fulfill the aspirations of 3.5 million people of Somaliland to have an independent and sovereign state.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches...nations-piracy

[Xusein]

Ictraaf will happen if the oil exploration is successful. Serious. There needs to be interests on the other side for recognition, like in South Sudan.

Do you really think the West really cares about democracy? They support Meles Zenawi who is a pure dictator.