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Old May 10th, 2012, 06:40 PM   #601
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Guys it seems that trans harbor link tendering process is over and the name of the winner is out according to:

link:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...w/13073778.cms
does anybody has any idea about who won this thing?
Its not over, final 5 groups have been shortlisted (as per the articel above) and now they will submit the whole bid later on and one of the group will be selected from the above 5.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 12:39 AM   #602
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My take
1)GMR Infrastructure- L&T – Samsung C&T Corpn
2)Tata Realty and Infrastructure – Autostrade Indian Infrastructure Development – Vinci Concessions Development

IRB did a good work with MPE and yes they are politically too much strong but I never like how they are maintaining MPE, even their roads in Kolhapur are unmaintained
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Old May 11th, 2012, 12:39 AM   #603
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Old May 11th, 2012, 03:55 AM   #604
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1)GMR Infrastructure- L&T – Samsung C&T Corpn
2)Tata Realty and Infrastructure – Autostrade Indian Infrastructure Development – Vinci Concessions Development

IRB did a good work with MPE and yes they are politically too much strong but I never like how they are maintaining MPE, even their roads in Kolhapur are unmaintained
IRB didnt built MPE. It bought out MPE from MSRDC by paying wholesome amount.Its like they own MPE,they can raise the toll every 5 years without even asking the govt

Coming back to MTHL...Tatas or L&T, nobody else
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Old May 11th, 2012, 06:27 AM   #605
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IRB didnt built MPE. It bought out MPE from MSRDC by paying wholesome amount.Its like they own MPE,they can raise the toll every 5 years without even asking the govt

Coming back to MTHL...Tatas or L&T, nobody else
Oh thanks for info

and yes nobody else
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Old May 11th, 2012, 10:01 AM   #606
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Is Bridge is really the right option for MTHL

I may be very late in the day. But my thoughts on MTHL are as under:

It may be recalled that the Maharashtra Govt constituted a Steering Group (SG)in February 1981 under the Chairmanship of JRD Tata to study and make a detailed recommendation for establishing transportation link between Bombay and New Bombay in order to decongest old city and provide for well ordained growth of New Bombay.

SG appointed international expert firm Peter & Fraenkel (PF) who recommended a six lane bridge from Sewree to Nhava-Sheva at a cost of Rs. 365 cr (yes, present cost is Rs. 9,900 cr). The bored subsea tunnel (with no environmental impact) was ruled out only because it was costlier by some Rs. 50 cr. Since the subsea tunnel was relatively new concept and PF had no experts in that field, a proper techno-economical-environmental comparative assessment was not made. There were several Feasibility Studies (FS) conducted for MTHL in the last three decades, all of them focused on only bridge option. One more FS is ongoing following the same trend.
The bridge option was opposed by (i) BARC for security reasons, (ii) Archeological Deptt for pollution at Elephanta, (iii) Environmentalist to save mangroves and visiting flamingoes at Sewree mudflats and (iv) Mumbai port for safety of oil pipelines and installations at Pirpau. Except the environmentalists, all others (being government entities) have accepted the project now. It is not understood how and where the Mumbai Port will replace old / add new pipelines and jetty when the need arises after bridge piers at every 50/60 m are constructed. These facilities are the lifeline of Mumbai Port Trust(MbPT) and oil refineries at Chembur and any damage will impact MbPT and refineries very badly.

Government shall initiate measures like high taxes, restriction on entry to congested city centers, congestion surcharge, etc. to decongest the city. The idea of spending Rs. 4,000 cr as VGF and another 20% soft loan for the MTHL contractor just for evacuation of some 45,000 vehicles is not understood. This VGF and another 20% soft loan is a form of subsidy only. Government shall promote more efficient rail, metro and other public transport mode rather than supporting ever increasing private vehicles.

When PF was carrying out FS, Norway built its first subsea tunnel in 1983. Now it has more than two dozen subsea tunnels. The cost of subsea tunnels is reportedly now comparable with bridge construction. MMRDA is now planning for Colaba-Bandra-Seepz underground metro link. If the purpose of MTHL is to decongest Mumbai, a perpendicular underground Metro link from Worli to New Mumbai with a crossing at proposed Terminal at Parel should be studied in detail. Then, there will be no need also for an elevated Harbour Line as is being planned now.

The excavated soil and rock from the underground and subsea metro shall be used to construct a new artificial island between Jawahar Dweep (Butcher Island) and Sewri for installation of much delayed grand Shivaji Statue, INS Vikrant and also the proposed Oceanarium planned at Taraporewala Aquarium. This island shall be connected with the subsea metro station by elevators. This will a very big tourist attraction and can finance all the cost of construction of Metro.

MMRDA has marred the beautiful Mumbai city by constructing aesthetically appalling and poorly planned flyovers all over. Any plan for construction of new flyovers or elevated links shall be thoroughly examined by a Steering Group of eminent personalities. Mr. J R D Tata was available for heading such SG in 1981. Now since Ratan Tata is taking break from corporate affairs and being highly respected, should be made chairman of such SG to bring beautiful Mumbai back.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 12:48 PM   #607
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Its like they own MPE,they can raise the toll every 5 years without even asking the govt
Err, no. They can't raise tolls as per their whims and fancies. The amount to increase and when the increase will come into play is a part of the contract. Same for any toll operator in India.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 04:32 PM   #608
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After scrutinising the six pre-qualification proposals received for building the Sewri-Nhava Mumbai Trans-Harbour Link (MTHL) for nearly two months, the city development authority has decided to drop one consortium for the next stage of financial bidding.

Of the six that evinced interest in building the 22-km MTHL, the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) has decided to drop IL&FS Transportation Networks-Unity Infrastructure-Navayuga Engineering-Rizzani de Eccher citing lack of sufficient experience.

This is the third attempt at bidding for the project, which has been talked about for more than three decades now.

The MMRDA had earlier expected to announce the list of consortia eligible for the next stage of bidding within a month of receiving the pre-qualification proposals. However, the decision was delayed as the authority wanted clarifications from two consortia, including the consortium that has been kept out of the race.

“We needed 1,467 points of experience in actual bridge work or viaducts on contract or public private partnership basis. The consortium did not fulfill this particular category. They were falling short by 150-200 points,” said Metropolitan Commissioner Rahul Asthana. The MMRDA had considered experience in building bridges or viaducts worth more than Rs 440 crore.

An official, who did not wish to be named, said the consortium failed to show a bid of Rs 440 crore in one of the four-five projects required as per the provisions of the request for qualification.

“In addition to that, through internal research, we also got information that a Bangalore Metro rail contract was apparently taken away from Navayuga owing to slow pace of work. The second company, Unity Infrastructure, is a local company and mostly had experience in water and drainage projects, while Rizzani had more expertise in mechanical work than civil construction. Considering all these factors, including the lack of sufficient experience, we decided to drop the consortium,” the official said.

Another consortium from which the MMRDA had sought clarifications was GMR Infrastructure-L&T Ltd-Samsung C&T Corp as they had not submitted an experience certificate, but the consortium completed the formality later, the official said.

The consortia selected for financial bidding are GMR-L&T-Samsung; CINTRA-SOMA-SREI; Gammon Infrastructure-OHL Concessions-G.S. Engineering; IRB Infrastructure Developers-Hyundai; Tata Realty and Infrastructure-Autostrade Indian Infrastructure Development-Vinci Concessions Development.

According to the pre-qualification proposals, the Tata Realty-Autostrade-Vinci consortium is the most experienced in similar projects among all of them, the official said.

In the next step, the MMRDA will give the selected consortia Request for Proposal (RFP) documents after the approval of the central government’s Department of Economic Affairs. The approval is expected in June, after which the consortia will submit detailed designs and financial bids by October.

The MMRDA plans to pick a contractor by November, while the actual work is expected to start next year.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/bi...-race/948057/2
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Old May 12th, 2012, 04:16 AM   #609
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Connector to MTHL on Nhava side to be dropped
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Of the two roads planned to connect the Sewri-Nhava Mumbai Trans Harbour Link (MTHL) the city development authority is planning to drop the one on Nhava side for now, after initial studies indicated it won’t be needed.

The MMRDA had earlier planned two roads connecting the 22-kilometre MTHL, one on Sewri side to Worli, and the other on Nhava side to the Mumbai-Pune expressway.

“We are thinking of taking up the road on Nhava side later as a public-private partnership project when the traffic increases. Currently there is a four-lane road from Chirle to the expressway, which is being widened to six lanes, so for now, this road can cater to the existing traffic,” Metropolitan Commissioner Rahul Asthana said, adding the MMRDA was looking at different alignments for a shorter route that can connect the expressway to Chirle to join MTHL. He said, “However, even the shortest alignment was saving only 10 kilometres. Hence we were thinking, with the six-laning of the existing road, there would be fast access to the expressway anyway, so do we really need to spend the Rs 1,200-1,400 crore on another road right now?”

The six-laning of the existing road is being implemented by the NHAI, the city and Industrial Development Corporation and the Jawaharlal Nehru Port Trust. On the Sewri side, the MMRDA has planned an elevated road between Worli and Sewri that is likely to cost about Rs 600-700 crore.

The MMRDA plans to construct the Worli-Sewri road simultaneously with the Mumbai Trans Harbour Link.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/co...ropped/948415/
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Old May 22nd, 2012, 11:04 PM   #610
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Sewri-Nhava trans-harbour link gets state coastal panel's nod

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-...e1-859904.aspx

The Maharashtra Coastal Zone Management Authority (MCZMA) has given a go-ahead to the 22-km Mumbai trans-harbour link that will connect the island city at Sewri to Nhava on the mainland.

The coastal body has recommended the project to the Ministry of Environment and Forests (MOEF), which will give the final approval for this long pending infrastructure project.

The nod from the coastal authority is one of the most vital clearances required and comes after the environment nod obtained from the Centre in 2005 expired in 2010. The clearance is subject to Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA), the implementing agency, complying with 12 conditions including submitting a mangroves restoration plan and not reclaiming land even at landing points of the sea link in CRZ area.

MCZMA also gave a clean chit to the project on the issue of migratory birds, pointing out that only four of the 17 species of birds found at the Sewri-end of the mudflats are migratory.

"There are few industries near the mudflats, which generate noise up to 40 to 50db but it does not affect the birds. The construction of this project will not affect habitation of migratory birds permanently.''

"We don't think environment clearance from the ministry will be a hurdle as the alignment of the link has not been changed from the earlier proposal. Conditions like restoration of mangroves are a given in such projects and we have done most of the work on this front,'' said Ashwini Bhide, additional metropolitan commissioner, MMRDA.
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 09:28 AM   #611
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As per CRZ 2011 and MCZMA Notification of Dec 2011, Public Hearing through MPSC (State Pollution Control Board) is mandatory for MCZMA clearance for this Category A project. Environmentalist could bring a stay later and delay implementation further. It is better MPSC conducts such hearing now instead later.
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MTHL: Disqualified consortium moves HC

Here the GAME starts again

Source: http://www.indianexpress.com/news/mt...ves-hc/953204/

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In what could be a minor hurdle for the much-delayed Mumbai Trans Harbour Link (MTHL), the only consortium dropped from the race to build the Sewri-Nhava link has filed a petition in the Bombay High Court challenging the decision to disqualify it for the next stage of bidding.

The petition was filed on Monday by IL&FS Transportation Networks on behalf of the consortium it was a part of for participating in the pre-qualification bidding for the 22-km MTHL. The other members of the consortium are Unity Infrastructure, Navayuga Engineering and Rizzani de Eccher.

Earlier this month, the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA), which is implementing the project, decided to drop the consortium for the next stage of bidding citing lack of sufficient experience, after screening the six pre-qualification proposals it had received.

“The consortium has now approached the court saying the MMRDA did not give a reason for the disqualification. It also says that we should have given the consortium a showcause notice and allowed it to explain its position before taking the decision to disqualify it,” said an MMRDA official.

He added that in the petition, the consortium has referred to a Central government circular dated July 13, 2001, giving guidelines for the qualification of bidders seeking to acquire stakes in public sector enterprises through the process of disinvestment. The letter states that any company should be given an opportunity to provide an explanation before disqualifying it. The MMRDA will present its side in the court in the second week of June.

However, MMRDA officials stated that the petition is not expected to impact the progress of the project or hinder the process of inviting financial bids.

“There was a short hearing today. We need some time to go through the petition properly. Once we do that we will see what further steps we should take,” said Ashwini Bhide, Additional Metropolitan Commissioner.

Meanwhile, the MMRDA is awaiting an approval from the Central government’s department of economic affairs before handing over the request for proposal documents to the five consortia selected for the final bidding.

The MTHL, which is being talked about for the past three decades, had earlier gone through two failed rounds of tendering. This time, the MMRDA plans to pick a contractor by November and start construction by next year.
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MTHL work to be awarded by December

Source: http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/repor...cember_1693803

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The Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) plans to begin work on the ambitious Mumbai Trans Harbour Link (MTHL) project by late next year.

The six-lane and access control MTHL will have a 16.5km section in the sea and a 5.5km portion on land, and connect Sewri in Central Mumbai to Chirle in Navi Mumbai. It will be the longest sea bridge in India.

A senior MMRDA official said that while work on the project would be awarded by around November- December this year, it would take around six to seven months for the concessioner to achieve financial closure and mobilise machinery for the construction. “The actual work can start post-monsoon in October-November next year,” the official added.

Another MMRDA official said that till the time physical work began, preparatory work on designs and the casting yard can be completed. The project, which is expected to take around five years and cost about Rs8,800 crore, has received a shot in the arm with five consortiums being found eligible to develop it. Two past attempts to kick start the project had failed.

The MTHL will provide better linkages to the proposed Navi Mumbai international airport, Pune, Goa, the growth centres along the Konkan coastline and southern states. It will also help movement of cargo from Mumbai, JNPT and the Rewas ports.
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Flamingoes in Trans Harbour Link’s path

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The proposed Mumbai Trans-Harbour link between Nhava-Sheva and Mumbai has hit a roadblock due to the migratory birds that flock the Sewri mudflats.

The Maharashtra Coastal Zone Management Authority (MCZMA) has said that no work must take place on the project during the months when flamingoes migrate to the city. This leaves the MMRDA with only October, half of November and then May, something the officials are up in arms against.

“It's going to be very difficult for us to work like this,” said senior a Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) official. “It will take us several years to construct the link that would otherwise take only five or six years. October to May is when most of the construction work takes place. The rest of the months are lost to the monsoons anyway.”

The link was first proposed in the late 1960s. The MMRDA took over the project from the Maharashtra State Road Development Corporation in 2009. It was meant to connect Sewri and Nhava-Sheva so that a new township could be developed there, and the city could expand. Now, the link is also expected to connect the city to proposed Navi Mumbai Airport.

Minutes of the MCZMA meeting held in April were published earlier this week. According to the report, the link passes through 2.1 km of mudflats, which attract flamingoes and other migratory birds. It also said that there are 17 species of birds (including four migratory species) in the Sewri-Mahul area, where construction is set to begin next year.

The authority also found that due to the ship-repair activity at Sewri and the tourists that frequent the area, the number of birds has drastically dropped over the years. Thus the authority decided that construction work must be carried on only before or after the birds migrate.

Isaac Kehimkar, of the Bombay Natural History Society, said, “The government has shifted alignments earlier due to objections from BARC and archaeological department. We recently met the MMRDA officials and told them to change the alignment by 500m again to avoid the mudflats, but they refused to do so.”

The MCZMA has asked the MMRDA (who subsequently agreed) to construct a temporary bridge to move machinery in order to prevent damage to the mudflats. It also directed the MMRDA to undertake afforestation of mangroves to compensate for loss due to the project in a seven-hectare plot in Gavan village.

Chief Engineer of the project, SM Sabnis said “We are going to construct a viaduct so that there is minimum disturbance of mudflats in the area. However, we can't promise to stay away during our peak time. It leaves us with almost no time to work.” Senior MMRDA officials said they will apply for concessions when the proposal is goes to the National Coastal Zone Management Authority in Delhi for a final nod.
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When will our urban planners wake up? There is no need to spend tax payer's Rs. 6000 cr (40% Viability Gap Fund + 20% soft loan) of this Rs. 10,000 cr project for just 45,000 private vehicles. In addition who will pay Rs. 400 for a one way trip every day?

Instead, a underground/under sea metro tunnel serving millions of commuters will benefit all. Additional pair of rail line can be also included for vehicle carriers for goods and passenger vehicles on Roll on Roll off model. This will greatly solve all traffic woes.
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so an undeground route would cost less??? that would be really surprising if it is
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Yes, they are comparable.
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Old May 27th, 2012, 07:18 PM   #618
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it is MMRDA's pet project. It is too optimistic that it will get 45000 vehicles when BWSL gets just 38000 vehicles every day with far less toll.

With eastern freeway there is no need for this project at all. What is needed is a an expressway from BKC/Sion to Panvel (with connections to all major roads like EEH, Eastern freeway etc) so that whole of Bombay benefits. Such a huge VGF is obscene just because it would cut 10 minutes for Colaba / Cuffe Parade and Malabar hill.
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so an undeground route would cost less??? that would be really surprising if it is
No way in hell would it be cheaper
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I agree with Indiadreams although I also think we need to think about connection between the Eastern and Western Freeway. Where the MTHL is planned to end in Sewri there should be some access-controlled toad until Prabhadevi and Worli Seaface.
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