Abdali project: Where is the American University of Jordan?

aymanFX · October 23rd, 2007, 07:14 PM

Guys… there is something strange about the new Abdali’s master plan!; where is the American University of Jordan?

What’s happening?

The Abdali project is just getting more mysterious, the second phase is not the last one, they managed the final land area to be more than 3 million square metres, not just the curent space.

The Abdali project is just the start to the new Amman, Amman will completely change from East to West.

eastwest · October 23rd, 2007, 11:01 PM

It was canceled from Abdali for an unknown reason, poor unlucky project

maybe someone thought real estate is more profitable than education, really annoying

sargon · October 25th, 2007, 08:57 AM

AUJ Project postponed due to funds. A high quality university requires much more than the budget allocated

Maha · October 25th, 2007, 09:40 AM

It's best not to have one, I went to one and they suck. American universities are overrated, I'd go with a British one if I were them.

metal gear · October 27th, 2007, 07:43 AM

they managed to buy more land in the area , and decided to go towers as beeing more profitable...............and they have a land dispute with ag group

yazm1991 · October 28th, 2007, 03:36 AM

even though the project lost the university

i think it gained some really nice towers

***B-Patriot*** · November 2nd, 2007, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sargon

AUJ Project postponed due to funds. A high quality university requires much more than the budget allocated

110 million dollars is more than enough for a 'high quality' university... Unless it includes the land cost... Depending, it still sounds do-able... Don't be silly...

People are obsessed with American university this, american university that... I agree with the guy about the british universities comment... In Bahrain soo many are dying to open an american university, although the newly established Higher Education Council has put a stop to the granting of licenses for private universities left and right, as was the case a few yrs ago...

Qatar Son 333 · November 3rd, 2007, 07:08 PM

that was a stupid move dont you know that it comes in steps ! first is knownledge and with knownledge it gives you power and with power you give others knownledge !!!!

sargon · November 10th, 2007, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-Patriot

110 million dollars is more than enough for a 'high quality' university... Unless it includes the land cost... Depending, it still sounds do-able... Don't be silly...

People are obsessed with American university this, american university that... I agree with the guy about the british universities comment... In Bahrain soo many are dying to open an american university, although the newly established Higher Education Council has put a stop to the granting of licenses for private universities left and right, as was the case a few yrs ago...

R U calling me silly?? That's impolite . These are not my own words but ABDALI PSJC CEO in a visit to Dubai. The spec's designed AUJ were very high and yes $110 Million don't great a high quality university. To answer your query on a British University see this http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=520449

***B-Patriot*** · November 19th, 2007, 04:11 PM

Thanx for the link.... But i still think 110$ million is enough, lol... I'm not just guessing, i'm comparing to projects here, and the budgets set for some of our new private universities in Bahrain such as Ahlia Univeristy, and the Royal College of Surgeons Ireland (MUB)...

So as i said before, maybe the budget is supposed to include the land, which in that case would be not enough, or else they're planning a university with a capacity of 15,000+ students or something....

gulfexpress · November 20th, 2007, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-Patriot

Thanx for the link.... But i still think 110$ million is enough, lol... I'm not just guessing, i'm comparing to projects here, and the budgets set for some of our new private universities in Bahrain such as Ahlia Univeristy, and the Royal College of Surgeons Ireland (MUB)...

So as i said before, maybe the budget is supposed to include the land, which in that case would be not enough, or else they're planning a university with a capacity of 15,000+ students or something....

AUB in beirut gets close to $160 in cash funding YEARLY (mainly from the US government), and it only has 5000 students, so $110 would definately fall short of making this university from scratch within the same standards as other AU universities.

***B-Patriot*** · December 3rd, 2007, 10:45 AM

I would very much like to see an article or something to support ur statement...

As far as i know ''USAID provides $35 million assistance a year and works in partnership with U.S. and Lebanese organizations throughout the country.'' And that means all American institutions in Lebanon, not just AUB, which i'm sure would still be the biggest benificiary.

sargon · December 3rd, 2007, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-Patriot

I would very much like to see an article or something to support ur statement...

As far as i know ''USAID provides $35 million assistance a year and works in partnership with U.S. and Lebanese organizations throughout the country.'' And that means all American institutions in Lebanon, not just AUB, which i'm sure would still be the biggest benificiary.

I don't know how much AUB is getting but in addition to USAID, AUB & AUC are partially funded by New York State.

omniman · September 3rd, 2008, 04:08 PM

Keep in mind, a reason the University is not built is not just because of construction costs. Especially with education, the money needed is more for non-building related reasons. For example, a university needs to fund millions$$ in endownments/scholarships. Also, many positions in the education field are guaranteed under contract; especially if they plan on recruiting foreign nationals. They would need to secure funds for the full contract terms up front.

So basically, they may be able to build a campus for 110 million, but maybe they need another 100 million to fund treasury/finance operations. Total cost of operations is too high, so they forgo the construction.

General-samkari · September 9th, 2008, 07:18 PM

well instead of the university, there will more towers poping all over the place.... the hights, vertex. and ofcourse, capital tower... not to mention th others... well there is alot of competition on building towers these days for commercial uses instead of building universities... and a better place to build the university woul definetly be either the airport highway or maybe near the city mall area.....

Mahatayyeb · May 24th, 2012, 03:25 PM

I'm doing my graduation project about the jordanian parliament, can I have these master plans of al abdali in a good quality?

It would be so great if you can help me

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October 23rd, 2007, 11:01 PM	#2
eastwest User Registered Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 309 Likes (Received): 0	It was canceled from Abdali for an unknown reason, poor unlucky project maybe someone thought real estate is more profitable than education, really annoying

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Maha Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dubai Posts: 711 Likes (Received): 0	It's best not to have one, I went to one and they suck. American universities are overrated, I'd go with a British one if I were them.

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metal gear BANNED Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: a heartbeat from Amman Posts: 879 Likes (Received): 0	they managed to buy more land in the area , and decided to go towers as beeing more profitable...............and they have a land dispute with ag group

October 28th, 2007, 03:36 AM	#6
yazm1991 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Perth, Amman Posts: 1,256 Likes (Received): 2	even though the project lost the university i think it gained some really nice towers

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Qatar Son 333 BANNED Join Date: May 2006 Location: Doha (Qatar) Posts: 8,072 Likes (Received): 0	that was a stupid move dont you know that it comes in steps ! first is knownledge and with knownledge it gives you power and with power you give others knownledge !!!!

November 19th, 2007, 04:11 PM	#10
*B-Patriot* Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: BarBar City Posts: 2,796 Likes (Received): 0	Thanx for the link.... But i still think 110$ million is enough, lol... I'm not just guessing, i'm comparing to projects here, and the budgets set for some of our new private universities in Bahrain such as Ahlia Univeristy, and the Royal College of Surgeons Ireland (MUB)... So as i said before, maybe the budget is supposed to include the land, which in that case would be not enough, or else they're planning a university with a capacity of 15,000+ students or something....

December 3rd, 2007, 10:45 AM	#12
*B-Patriot* Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: BarBar City Posts: 2,796 Likes (Received): 0	I would very much like to see an article or something to support ur statement... As far as i know ''USAID provides $35 million assistance a year and works in partnership with U.S. and Lebanese organizations throughout the country.'' And that means all American institutions in Lebanon, not just AUB, which i'm sure would still be the biggest benificiary.

September 3rd, 2008, 04:08 PM	#14
omniman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1 Likes (Received): 0	Keep in mind, a reason the University is not built is not just because of construction costs. Especially with education, the money needed is more for non-building related reasons. For example, a university needs to fund millions$$ in endownments/scholarships. Also, many positions in the education field are guaranteed under contract; especially if they plan on recruiting foreign nationals. They would need to secure funds for the full contract terms up front. So basically, they may be able to build a campus for 110 million, but maybe they need another 100 million to fund treasury/finance operations. Total cost of operations is too high, so they forgo the construction.

September 9th, 2008, 07:18 PM	#15
General-samkari Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 130 Likes (Received): 0	well instead of the university, there will more towers poping all over the place.... the hights, vertex. and ofcourse, capital tower... not to mention th others... well there is alot of competition on building towers these days for commercial uses instead of building universities... and a better place to build the university woul definetly be either the airport highway or maybe near the city mall area.....

May 24th, 2012, 03:25 PM	#16
Mahatayyeb Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1 Likes (Received): 0	I'm doing my graduation project about the jordanian parliament, can I have these master plans of al abdali in a good quality? It would be so great if you can help me