Seattle Development News 8 - Page 114

shotsy · May 25th, 2012, 08:06 PM

This is good news! That sign and janky wheelchair ramp need to go. Hopefully they opt to build on the parking lot sooner than later.

Matt the Engineer · May 25th, 2012, 08:08 PM

I've wondered about that building. There are a few in the ID that are run down, yet you're a quick walk from Link or even downtown.

Like the Carpet King space across 5th from the Link station, or the block south of that. Probably one of the heaviest pedestrian trafficed blocks in the city, yet it's a bunch of run down and empty storefronts (with the exception of Thai Curry Simple). Those blocks needs to be towers. I assume landowners are just sitting on the properties, hoping that someday they'll be upzoned?

BoulderGrad · May 25th, 2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt the Engineer

I've wondered about that building. There are a few in the ID that are run down, yet you're a quick walk from Link or even downtown.

Like the Carpet King space across 5th from the Link station, or the block south of that. Probably one of the heaviest pedestrian trafficed blocks in the city, yet it's a bunch of run down and empty storefronts (with the exception of Thai Curry Simple). Those blocks needs to be towers. I assume landowners are just sitting on the properties, hoping that someday they'll be upzoned?

Or they make enough money off a run down building and wouldn't see any increase on fixing it up?

I'd like to see the 2nd one rennovated and the carpet king buildings redeveloped.

BoulderGrad · May 25th, 2012, 08:30 PM

How far does south does the Pioneer square historic overlay go? That could be another hold up. There's plenty of beaut's worth saving, but many that just need to go...

benleis · May 25th, 2012, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt the Engineer

I've wondered about that building. There are a few in the ID that are run down, yet you're a quick walk from Link or even downtown.

Like the Carpet King space across 5th from the Link station, or the block south of that. Probably one of the heaviest pedestrian trafficed blocks in the city, yet it's a bunch of run down and empty storefronts (with the exception of Thai Curry Simple). Those blocks needs to be towers. I assume landowners are just sitting on the properties, hoping that someday they'll be upzoned?

I remember reading a while back that many of these buildings have complicated ownership structures with multiple owners and some offshore.

Ben

alexjonlin · May 26th, 2012, 12:42 AM

I just hope there is some way to make that neighborhood significantly denser and nicer without just totally destroying the small Chinatown that still exists.

Matt the Engineer · May 26th, 2012, 08:17 AM

+1

Black Box · May 26th, 2012, 10:33 AM

I love some of the spaces on the ground floor. I'd love to see some cool things go in there.

Rogue Linguist · May 26th, 2012, 04:56 PM

I think it's just a matter of time before the Publix Hotel gets renovated. Last time I checked, there were murals or artwork or something on display in the windows. Not sure what that means.

Doomgoggles · May 27th, 2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alexjonlin

I just hope there is some way to make that neighborhood significantly denser and nicer without just totally destroying the small Chinatown that still exists.

Good news: the planning dept is thinking the same thing.

Chinatown: http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/cms/group...dpdp018345.pdf

Japantown: http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/cms/group...dpdp018357.pdf

Southern ID: http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/cms/group...dpdp018362.pdf

Little Saigon: http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/cms/group...dpdp018358.pdf

LCIII · May 27th, 2012, 08:23 PM

Two of those have been posted before. Can anyone confirm that this was implemented? I asked last time and got no response.

alexjonlin · May 28th, 2012, 12:24 AM

http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/Planning/...town/Overview/ Apparently in April 2011 the City Council officially approved these zoning changes, but I guess it'll be a while before developers start to take advantage.

LCIII · May 28th, 2012, 01:20 AM

Great! Thanks! Yah, of course developers have to do it but it's nice to see they can now!

Doomgoggles · May 29th, 2012, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexjonlin

http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/Planning/...town/Overview/ Apparently in April 2011 the City Council officially approved these zoning changes, but I guess it'll be a while before developers start to take advantage.

Yeah, everyone's concentrating on the north end of downtown.

Here's the divided up version by planning area:
http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/Planning/...tudy/index.htm

BellevueBoy · May 29th, 2012, 04:33 AM

What's the current office vacancy rate in DT Seattle and at what level does it need to drop to before developers will move forward with spec development? I'm really hoping one of the three proposed office towers in the CBD will break ground in the next year.

mhays · May 29th, 2012, 06:26 AM

Estimates probably range from 14-19%. Equilibrium would be 10%. Class A+ space is apparently lower than either.

But that's not enough. They probably need preleasing of the majority of their space. It's a tough hurdle to prelease 400 ksf.

LCIII · May 30th, 2012, 12:16 AM

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SR 520 Portage Bay Bridge Cable Stay design concept - Montlake Neighborhood and Mt. Rainier from University Bridge by WSDOT, on Flickr

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SR 520 Portage Bay Bridge Cable Stay design concept - Standing at West Montlake Park by WSDOT, on Flickr

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SR 520 Portage Bay Bridge Cable Stay design concept - Roanoke Neighborhood and Bridge from Montlake Boulevard E by WSDOT, on Flickr

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SR 520 Portage Bay Bridge Cable Stay design concept - Portage Bay and Roanoke Neighborhood from Montlake Playfield by WSDOT, on Flickr

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SR 520 Portage Bay Bridge Cable Stay design concept - Cascade Mountains and Montlake Neighborhood from 10th Ave E by WSDOT, on Flickr

I love it. Its too good to be true though. They'll end up picking one of the other two because all of our bridges are dumpy and uninspired.

BellevueBoy · May 30th, 2012, 01:40 AM

I can't see a suspension bridge getting the green light for that neighborhood with all the NIMBY's here. I'd love to see it happen though. Actually I'd love to see a suspension bridge across the lake but I think i read the lake is too deep to build one.

BoulderGrad · May 30th, 2012, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BellevueBoy

I can't see a suspension bridge getting the green light for that neighborhood with all the NIMBY's here. I'd love to see it happen though. Actually I'd love to see a suspension bridge across the lake but I think i read the lake is too deep to build one.

More that the deep portion is far too wide for a suspension bridge

SJM · May 30th, 2012, 03:41 AM

Suspension gets my vote!

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May 25th, 2012, 08:06 PM	#2261
shotsy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 266 Likes (Received): 23	This is good news! That sign and janky wheelchair ramp need to go. Hopefully they opt to build on the parking lot sooner than later.

May 25th, 2012, 08:08 PM	#2262
Matt the Engineer Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,093 Likes (Received): 94	I've wondered about that building. There are a few in the ID that are run down, yet you're a quick walk from Link or even downtown. Like the Carpet King space across 5th from the Link station, or the block south of that. Probably one of the heaviest pedestrian trafficed blocks in the city, yet it's a bunch of run down and empty storefronts (with the exception of Thai Curry Simple). Those blocks needs to be towers. I assume landowners are just sitting on the properties, hoping that someday they'll be upzoned?

May 26th, 2012, 12:42 AM	#2266
alexjonlin Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,271 Likes (Received): 87	I just hope there is some way to make that neighborhood significantly denser and nicer without just totally destroying the small Chinatown that still exists.

May 26th, 2012, 08:17 AM	#2267
Matt the Engineer Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,093 Likes (Received): 94	+1

May 27th, 2012, 08:23 PM	#2271
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,871 Likes (Received): 64	Two of those have been posted before. Can anyone confirm that this was implemented? I asked last time and got no response.

May 28th, 2012, 12:24 AM	#2272
alexjonlin Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,271 Likes (Received): 87	http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/Planning/...town/Overview/ Apparently in April 2011 the City Council officially approved these zoning changes, but I guess it'll be a while before developers start to take advantage.

May 28th, 2012, 01:20 AM	#2273
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,871 Likes (Received): 64	Great! Thanks! Yah, of course developers have to do it but it's nice to see they can now!

May 29th, 2012, 04:33 AM	#2275
BellevueBoy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,058 Likes (Received): 0	What's the current office vacancy rate in DT Seattle and at what level does it need to drop to before developers will move forward with spec development? I'm really hoping one of the three proposed office towers in the CBD will break ground in the next year.

May 29th, 2012, 06:26 AM	#2276
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,394 Likes (Received): 119	Estimates probably range from 14-19%. Equilibrium would be 10%. Class A+ space is apparently lower than either. But that's not enough. They probably need preleasing of the majority of their space. It's a tough hurdle to prelease 400 ksf.

May 30th, 2012, 12:16 AM	#2277
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,871 Likes (Received): 64	image hosted on flickr SR 520 Portage Bay Bridge Cable Stay design concept - Montlake Neighborhood and Mt. Rainier from University Bridge by WSDOT, on Flickr image hosted on flickr SR 520 Portage Bay Bridge Cable Stay design concept - Standing at West Montlake Park by WSDOT, on Flickr image hosted on flickr SR 520 Portage Bay Bridge Cable Stay design concept - Roanoke Neighborhood and Bridge from Montlake Boulevard E by WSDOT, on Flickr image hosted on flickr SR 520 Portage Bay Bridge Cable Stay design concept - Portage Bay and Roanoke Neighborhood from Montlake Playfield by WSDOT, on Flickr image hosted on flickr SR 520 Portage Bay Bridge Cable Stay design concept - Cascade Mountains and Montlake Neighborhood from 10th Ave E by WSDOT, on Flickr I love it. Its too good to be true though. They'll end up picking one of the other two because all of our bridges are dumpy and uninspired.

May 30th, 2012, 01:40 AM	#2278
BellevueBoy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,058 Likes (Received): 0	I can't see a suspension bridge getting the green light for that neighborhood with all the NIMBY's here. I'd love to see it happen though. Actually I'd love to see a suspension bridge across the lake but I think i read the lake is too deep to build one.

May 30th, 2012, 03:41 AM	#2280
SJM Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,234 Likes (Received): 3	Suspension gets my vote!