The Aviation Thread

[persian]

No thanks, Iran has enough money to buy 150 new Airbus 380 and Boeing planes in the near future. I won't forget the disaster of Iran-Ukraine joint plane 15 years ago.

p.s. Love your new avatar Aerithia

[Aerithia]

[Equario]

Originally Posted by persian

No thanks, Iran has enough money to buy 150 new Airbus 380 and Boeing planes in the near future. I won't forget the disaster of Iran-Ukraine joint plane 15 years ago.

Please, can you proved more information regarding this matter. Thanks in advance.

[persian]

My bad, it was 10 years ago. Here is the link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov..._and_Incidents

[Equario]

Well, I don't want to sound arrogant or snobbish, or offend you, but why do you describe it as a disaster? The sad truth is that every "metal" falls down, however, IMHO, it's not the reason to say that Iranian domestic aviation is bad or shouldn't be developed any further.

[SoroushPersepolisi]

it certainly should be developed but we shouldnt fool ourselves that right now we can build anything that matches a modern airbus

[DJaCoNdA]

Originally Posted by Equario

Well, I don't want to sound arrogant or snobbish, or offend you, but why do describe it as a disaster? The sad truth is that every "metal" falls down, however, IMHO, it's not the reason to say that Iranian domestic aviation is bad or shouldn't be developed any further.

Every time i visit this section i always read mostly negative comments. Saying something negative about their homeland's achives and attempts in matter of development its just sad. Stop being so negative and pessimistic.

[SoroushPersepolisi]

Originally Posted by DJaCoNdA

Every time i visit this section i always read mostly negative comments. Saying something negative about their homeland's achives and attempts in matter of development its just sad. Stop being so negative and pessimistic.

dont confuse realism with pessimism

also, id our country is so great it should have the capacity for criticism

i want the best for iran but we have to take everything slowly, gently and of course safely, to perform better and better in the future as a nation

[Ze Carlos_Ze]

Iranian airline fleets to get young


TEHRAN – "We plan to increase the number of aircraft and replace the older planes with new ones," says the president of Civil Aviation Organization of Iran.
“We also plan to raise the lifespan of the fleets by 25 percent,” Reza Nakhjavani told the Mehr News Agency.

Nakhjavani stated as this year is the year of support for domestic production, the priority for the airlines is to support Iranian investment and output.

Iran’s new year began on March 20.
http://www.tehrantimes.com/economy-a...s-to-get-young

[Drac]

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[Equario]

Originally Posted by SoroushPersepolisi

it certainly should be developed but we shouldnt fool ourselves that right now we can build anything that matches a modern airbus

I agree with this point and that it should take time.
Just reading last 20 replies I got the understanding that Iranians are very negative about the development of Iranian aviation.

By the way, due to the sanctions (if I get it correctly) Iran also can't buy avionics, electrical systems and etc. that are made in USA or consists of USA made details?

[Ze Carlos_Ze]

Originally Posted by Equario

I agree with this point and that it should take time.
Just reading last 20 replies I got the understanding that Iranians are very negative about the development of Iranian aviation.

By the way, due to the sanctions (if I get it correctly) Iran also can't buy avionics, electrical systems and etc. that are made in USA or consists of USA made details?

not really sure. but if iran wants something, they will get it anyway.

[persian]

Originally Posted by Equario

I agree with this point and that it should take time.
Just reading last 20 replies I got the understanding that Iranians are very negative about the development of Iranian aviation.

By the way, due to the sanctions (if I get it correctly) Iran also can't buy avionics, electrical systems and etc. that are made in USA or consists of USA made details?

Yes, that's why they still use the Boeing 747 that was bought before the revolution, or 2nd hand airbuses after neighbouring countries like Turkey have used them for 20 years. Iran Air has gone down from a 5* airline in 70s to a 2* airline.

[Ze Carlos_Ze]

i wonder where you always put up your generalizing stuff lol. you are putting a lot of half true news here and there. i have to say i do the same sometimes with my reports. i am sure those news are not always true. you criticize even before actually seeing the planned airplanes by iran. iran has put here and there some interesting projects. ant it is not unrealistic to see good planes by iran. iran has self sufficiency in most fields.

[Herbicide]

I think if HESA already makes helicopters and fighter jets (even if they are copies of a foreign design) then it wont be to much to expect small commuter jets like Fokkers in a few years.

[Aerithia]

Originally Posted by persian

Yes, that's why they still use the Boeing 747 that was bought before the revolution, or 2nd hand airbuses after neighbouring countries like Turkey have used them for 20 years. Iran Air has gone down from a 5* airline in 70s to a 2* airline.

Sad but true.

The service is good, but the flight isn't..

[Ze Carlos_Ze]

Iran to renew passenger air fleet


TEHRAN - Iran plans to increase the number of aircraft and replace 25 outdated planes with new ones, said the head of Civil Aviation Organization.
“The organization will remove 25 planes with over 30 years of service from the fleet, most of which are Boeing 707 and Boeing 727 models,” Reza Nakhjavani told Fars news agency.

Nakhjavani stated as this year is the year of support for domestic production, the priority for the airlines is to support Iranian investment and output.

Currently, 14 airlines are in operation in Iran. Just one of the airlines (Iran Air) is state-run.

[Persan]

This is a thread about aviation, not a comparison of Chinese/Russian vs. Western products. Back to topic please.

[Arashk]

iran building airplanes and helicopters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4CuYY3Ec88

[mahdial_x5]

Originally Posted by Persan

Iran Air lines up three Boeing 747-300s
Flight Global | March 27, 2012

Iran Air has acquired the first of three Boeing 747-300s from Al Sayegh Airlines. The 1986-vintage aircraft (MSN 23408), which is still in storage, has been registered in Gambia since February 2012, according to sources. UAE-based Sayegh Group, which owns Kyrgyzstan-based Al Sayegh Airlines, says: "Please [note] that Sayegh Group sold the three 747-300[s] to an aviation company, but not to Iran."

A source close to the matter confirms the aircraft was sold to an unnamed Gambian company. "It looks like the Gambian entity has fronted the deal," he says. According to Flightglobal's Ascend Online database, the aircraft was mostly recently registered as C5-SAM. C5 is the Gambian prefix.

Iran Air was not immediately available to comment on the transaction.

Al Sayegh Airlines has two further 747-300s in its fleet (MSN 23224 and 23823), which are both in storage and scheduled to be sold to Iran Air in May this year, sources say. Ascend Online shows both aircraft as currently registered in Burkina Faso as XT-DMA and XT-SAG, respectively, having been operated until late 2010 by Centrafrique Air Express.

Al Sayegh Airlines was founded by Saleem Al Sayegh, the chief executive of UAE-based National Paints, with the aim of operating five cargo aircraft and three passenger aircraft, according to reports at the time.

The three 747-300s, formerly operated by Qantas, were delivered to Al Sayegh Airlines in 2010. According to US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) documents, the aircraft were acquired by Sayegh Group Aviation, also under the National Paints umbrella. These documents show that, at the time, the 747-300s were registered in the US under a Trust agreement arranged with the Bank of Utah.

According to its website: "Sayegh Group Aviation specialises in charter for large groups with its fleet of [Boeing] 747 aircraft." It also states that "Sayegh Group Aviation offers its fleet of Antonov [An-]12 aircraft for cargo charter."

However, Ascend data shows that the only aircraft Sayegh Group Aviation currently operates are two Ilyushin Il-18s. Its five Antonov aircraft are in storage, along with two Boeing 737-400s (MSN 24445 and 24438) which are scheduled to be leased in next month to Slovakia-based start-up airline SAM Air, also owned by Sayegh Group Aviation, according to Ascend.

Meanwhile, Iran Air has 44 aircraft in service, including 13 Airbus A300s, three A310s, five A320s, one Boeing 727, nine 747s and 13 Fokker 100s.

Over on Airliners.net I was reading about this,
Apparently they cant get their hands on up-to-date service/operation manuals from Boeing soo...there is no telling when theyll be able to use these, even if they will be able to!