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Old June 13th, 2012, 09:31 AM   #1721
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It's over 18 years Fly, looks optimistic I agree but then it has come from an independent body, albeit translated and posted by a not so independent body.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 09:46 AM   #1722
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Those graphs are based upon London being full then unquestioning the extra growth that the UK sees each year as moving to the next closest London airport.

i.e they move to Brum until it is full, then Manc until it is full...

When the figures came out a while ago it was pointed out the assumption in them are bollocks and ignore the realities of the market and BA are not about to start shifting their planes to Manc and Brum once Heathrow is full, rather the business model will alter (fewer shuttles, more A380s).

Don't get to hung up on the figures, you are setting yourself up to be seriously disappointed.

When the results of the SE airport consultation come out you will get a better idea about future plans, BA, Virgin etc will be making it clear what their non-London plans are in that.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 01:13 PM   #1723
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See Laura Kuenssberg on Twitter (@ITVLauraK).

Strong suggestions that the government are about to u-turn on R3 at Heathrow.

Within a week, let along 20years, the DfT predictions will be meaningless.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 02:09 PM   #1724
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the graph shows how much each airport is due to grow by 2030 according to the DFT
Whilst I support BHX getting 'out there and making themselves known', I really do think its a long battle ahead.

Take the DFT projections.
-When have they ever been right? (such as Plymouth growing despite the fact its erm..... no longer with us?)
-What are they basing their 'growth predictions' on? Are they accounting for the current economic climate and the fluctuating fuel prices?
-Lastly, the DFT can postulate all it likes, its airlines who decide where they want to go, not the government.
So, for example. Heathrow is full, Gatwick bursting and STN still not attracting the airlines. Would an airline think 'lets get closer to London, so Brum, or, would it say 'lets take Scotland pax out of the London congestion and lets start a Glasgow flight.

The problem Brum has, no matter how fats the trains get, it still will not be able to lure away transit pax.
A passenger who travels say, Kuwait-Heathrow on Kuwait Airways, then Heathrow-Toronto on Air Canada, why would passenger X travel the first section to say, BHX, then train to LHR for their Air Canada connection? I know I wouldn't, no matter how good the price was.

Thats the issue. BHX would need to attract a LOT, and I mean a LOT of airlines for it to do what BHX says what it wants to do, and it isn't a small task, not by any measure!
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Old June 14th, 2012, 08:29 PM   #1725
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seems like the new routes might have started to have an impact?

May Passanger Figues

Birmingham - 790,626 passangers +1.6%

East Mids - 409,573 -0.4%
Edinburgh - 844,497 +2.3%
Glasgow - 658,514 +9.9%
Luton - 879,689 +2.2%
Manchester - 1,710,907 -1.1%
Stansted - 1546552 -5.5%
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Old June 14th, 2012, 09:51 PM   #1726
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Encouraging to see an increase in passengers at BHX, Lets hope it continues all summer.
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Old June 15th, 2012, 08:57 AM   #1727
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Encouraging to see an increase in passengers at BHX, Lets hope it continues all summer.
Ya, like Manchester (bar this month) finally turned the corner, the big airports will come roaring back after the expansion of Easy & Ryan at the historically smaller airports.

LJL, LBA, East Midlands & even Coventry for a while!
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Old June 15th, 2012, 10:27 PM   #1728
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Are there any pics of the construction work on the runway extension, or is there not much to see yet?
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Old June 15th, 2012, 11:15 PM   #1729
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Are there any pics of the construction work on the runway extension, or is there not much to see yet?
Just preparing the ground at the minuite mate so not really too much to show, but activity is defo hotting up and full works commence in July
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Old June 16th, 2012, 01:23 AM   #1730
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Are there any pics of the construction work on the runway extension, or is there not much to see yet?
Here is a picture taken from the Midlands today news clip filmed on 11th June.

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Old June 16th, 2012, 10:44 AM   #1731
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This is a major development for BHX and the city and great to see it finally happening after all these years.

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Old June 16th, 2012, 09:37 PM   #1732
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Just preparing the ground at the minuite mate so not really too much to show, but activity is defo hotting up and full works commence in July
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Here is a picture taken from the Midlands today news clip filmed on 11th June.
Cheers guys, thanks for the info & pic
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Old June 17th, 2012, 02:04 AM   #1733
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GREAT to see the work starting to take shape with the A45, just Imagine the runway when It Is In use


Remember when phptographs could be sneakely taken from the rough ground near the tristar hotel? those views overlooking the whole airport complexWell Imagine If those kind/And better where available without restrictions...........?
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Old June 17th, 2012, 02:08 AM   #1734
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This is the bit inbetween the tower and TriStar hotel. The trees here are cut very low, probably around 5ft. This field was used (might still be) by a number of spotters as it's a good vantage point for both taking off and landing. Seems like a great place for a visitor/spotting centre!!!!





I cycled down the path by the fence. It starts off as a well maintained tarmac path, but soon turns into a muddy single track which is probably only kept clear by fellow cyclists and dog walkers.

The shot was from the hump, the immediate area isn't bad, but looks not to be cut as often. I believe it's a public footpath along the fence, so I would've thought it needs to be kept passable.


Like this, but mutch mutch better..........
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Old June 19th, 2012, 06:16 PM   #1735
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Turkish airlines operating 10 weekly next summer. Extra flights on Mon, Thu and Sun.
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Old June 19th, 2012, 07:34 PM   #1736
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Vince Cable gives backing to Birmingham Airport campaign
by Jon Griffin, Birmingham Post Jun 19 2012
The campaign to expand Birmingham Airport has gained a powerful new ally – in the shape of Business Secretary Vince Cable.

Mr Cable is backing Birmingham rather than Heathrow as the answer to the UK’s air passenger needs, giving a major boost to the airport’s new drive to extend its capacity.

The flight hub recently launched a new London publicity campaign to persuade the Government to throw its support behind Birmingham at the expense of a third runway at Heathrow.



Mr Cable said in response to the campaign: “Birmingham is very anxious to expand its airport capacity, to build up a really serious international airport, and there is no resistance from residents.

“A lot of people in the Midlands want to do international business. That is a short-term, pragmatic solution that would bring an awful lot more flights to the country.”

Mr Cable said extra runway capacity at an airport in the South East could take years to deliver.

He was backed in his calls for expansion at Birmingham by Jim French, chief executive of airline Flybe, the biggest carrier serving regional airports.

Mr French said: “We very much see Birmingham as a potential relief valve to Heathrow.

“It is an obvious thing to look at in light of the third runway situation.”

Birmingham Airport chief executive Paul Kehoe said: “Heathrow isn’t the only way to fly to new markets. Policymakers have been infatuated with seeing airport expansion in the South East as the only solution.

“Heathrow has been throwing its weight about trying to get a third runway, but this reliance on a centralised airport system in the South-East has made the industry too regional, uncompetitive and inflexible.

“There are 42 million other people in the UK outside of the South East that require air transportation to these brand new markets in India, China and Brazil.”

Birmingham Airport’s runway extension will be completed by 2014.

Read More http://www.birminghampost.net/birmin...#ixzz1yGHbdFy8
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Old June 19th, 2012, 08:39 PM   #1737
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We need to get these politicians lobbying the big airlines to set up operations at Birmingham. Our own national airline would be a start.
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Old June 19th, 2012, 09:58 PM   #1738
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We need to get these politicians lobbying the big airlines to set up operations at Birmingham. Our own national airline would be a start.
We are not India, Pakistan or Bangladesh, so politicians have no say in where airlines serve.

Airlines will go where they want to go, and unfortunately for the regions, for the majority, that means London.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 01:43 AM   #1739
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We need to get these politicians lobbying the big airlines to set up operations at Birmingham. Our own national airline would be a start.

Agree totally British Airways are a disgrace, serving virtually only the South East now. How can they call themselves Britiswh Airways when they only serve one part of the country! They should make them change their name to London Airways
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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:53 AM   #1740
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We are not India, Pakistan or Bangladesh, so politicians have no say in where airlines serve.

Airlines will go where they want to go, and unfortunately for the regions, for the majority, that means London.
No, but they can fight the country's corner, talk to them about how good the provincial airports are. Politicians lobby business all the time and there are plenty of incentives/assistance that can be give to encourage airlines to operate from non-London airports.

Or they can sit back and do nothing...
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