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My thoughts and comments on new lines:
Holland Line: On paper, the perfect line for the west. It serves the "heartland" of the Jurong West area and potentially, the upcoming town of Tengeh. However, if it doesn't somehow serve Jurong East Central either as an interchange or something a la Tampines EWL/DTL, then it'd be contradictory to the development of the Jurong Lake Region which is why I think the next line has to be necessary, somehow... Jurong Region Line: It was brought up the previous time but suddenly shelved when the same lines became Downtown Lines 2, 3 and ERL. It HAS to happen, or not. Beauty World-Wes Coast spur line: T7/North Coast Line: Are they one and the same, or can they compliment each other? I believe the forum is split over this. Personally, I think they can co-exist, but the question is, which one can hold on longer through the decade, or rather, which one presents more economic opportunity and serves more people? And by tenders, the guess is T7. After all, there's little actual demand between Woodlands, Yishun and Punggol to Pasir Ris, but when you compare that to Woodlands, Yishun and Punggol to Bedok/Eunos/Tampines, then it starts to make sense. Playing the devil's advocate, none of the tenders mention what T7 line actually is - we all assume, it's gonna veer 45 degrees northeast, following the route of Ang Mo Kio Ave 3. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's gonna veer 45 degrees southeast... |
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#4522 |
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I like what ddes did with T7. That does leave a gap on the northeastern coast though, but considering the new catchment with T7 and NCL combined, I figure it can't be that hard to go two or three stops down to hop onto the line to the north if you live on the northeastern and eastern frontier towns.
There are hints of a Jurong Region Line according to some sources so this is a high potential as well. I believe this system will officially considered a LRT, but it should be speced to be able to span the distance of nearly five MRT stations and handle its resulting catchment. It mystifies me what would that be. Too large for metros with the tight corners, but too little capacity with people movers. |
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#4523 |
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The biggest problem with the JRL is that you just can't have loop routes like what we had at Sengkang, Punggol and Bukit Panjang. Unlike the former two which are grid layouts and the latter, basically a circular layout town, Jurong isn't like that. So I believe that the previous plan was to literally cover the town with tracks and run services, a la Hong Kong's LRT, rather than following strict routes. This no doubt translated to the CCL and DTL infrastructure, particularly at Promenade where the intention was to indeed run services across live track. This would be similar to Japan actually where the Shonan-Shinjuku line is a service/route rather than something physical. I've no doubt this will not go down well with people like seloloving or circleline4 who believe in the "one track for one service/route" thing. Ironically, this could help the economic case for the JRL into NTU during the holidays.
If you've no idea what I'm talking about above, think of it as an elevated bus network. |
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#4524 |
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The role of HLL in the development of Jurong Lake District may not be apparent based on just simple analysis of the plan. Traffic management plays an equally important role in the development of a hub. The current situation is JUR is that the high MRT based traffic has made the interchange station somewhat of purely infrastructure rather than a destination. The attractiveness of JUR as an interchange station is somewhat diminished compared to other interchanges.
HLL has a triple role to play to serve Jurong lake district. First of all, an interchange at Bt Batok will allow better connectivity to JUR by bringing in commuters served by HLL through NSL, hence increasing the destination based commuter traffic. Secondly, it will also filter out transfer only commuter traffic out of JUR by connecting passengers on JUR-bound NSL to other destinations served by HLL, such as Orchard. This reduces the crowd in JUR and help to boost intangible attractiveness of the Jurong district in general. Thirdly, the HLL will draw new residents and population to areas around Jurong lake district. The first stage will be intensification, where existing land around HLL stations will see a boost in residential figures, in the next stage it will provide the demand for the development of Tengah New Town. As both residential and commercial developments intensify in the region in tandem, the Jurong regional line will reach the critical mass and size to become a viable medium capacity line. |
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Passed by Bishan and spotted some barriers near the flats before the tunnel. Do you guys think it is the new sound barriers?
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#4526 |
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Yes. Tampines and Jurong East will have them at stretches too.
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Nice, thanks for the info.Anyway, just checked the other site. It seems that Pioneer's fans are operational. I guess it would either be Buona Vista or Bedok next.
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Found this on the FB page for the unofficial East West Line group. It seems that they have been carrying out the replacement of sleepers since the 5th of June. Here is the link to the PDF file.
http://www.smrt.com.sg/Portals/0/PDF...30Sep2012).pdf Also, on the unofficial Circle Line FB page, they posted a link to a new interactive network map by SMRT. http://www.smrt.com.sg/Trains/NetworkMap.aspx
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#4529 |
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Nice!! They are finally releasing the maps in high resolution on most of the stations!
lolwut - SMRT got Marina Bay and Bayfront's code wrong. Last edited by Seloloving; June 11th, 2012 at 12:05 PM. |
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Haha, nice!! I guess one needs to feedback to SMRT regarding this.For the normal passenger, they won't really realise it.
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#4531 |
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Overall, it seems SMRT revamped their site pretty well, probably with help from the SGTs since some features seem inspired from their site.
Now SMRT and SGT should gang up on LTA's site and force them to reboot. |
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#4532 |
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I don't like SMRT's new site. It's too amateurish.
There is far too many useless and redundant information on the site. I don't need a page describing to me what color the North South Line is. As a tourist, all I need is jazzy graphics telling me how to buy a ticket, use the system, and flashy images of popular tourist attractions and their corresponding names and alpha-numeric codes. SMRT feels obligated to promote the venues along the all the stations Circle Line, so I can't see why they can't apply that for that here for every line. I mean, market yourselves, stimulate "local tourism", get people to be convinced to use the system, tell me what's interesting at Khatib, Yew Tee. Also, address the breakdown and reliability issue in a indirect way. Market to commuters "THE NEW SMRT: COMING SOON" or whatever - detail the new trains, C151A, talk about the signaling system. Maybe with a YouTube video or animation and renders, explain why it's gonna take so long for improvements to be made, and the new upcoming lines too. If you can subtly convince people to think SMRT is Singapore MRT, then you ride on the success of the smoothness of operations of the other two lines operated by SBST. |
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News regarding LTA/SMRT.
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#4535 |
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Some updates on the fans. Looks like they have finished installing the fans for Jurong East, Buona Vista and Commonwealth, just not operational yet.
![]() Lee480, do help to tell the other side about this. Also, you haven't told them that Buona Vista has Titan gates installed and operational. Thanks for the help.
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Relax, take it easy.
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Here's a video done by LTA showing the installation of fans for those who follow up.
On a separate issue that I chanced upon on Stomp.. http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/st..._suddenly.html
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Some news in CNA regarding LTA.
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Saw this is asiaone. I guess it is expected. STOMP is just full of crap.
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Also, some news on the LTA Masterplan.
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#4540 |
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Also, with regards to the jet fans / blowers at Commonwealth and Buona Vista, they are operational. Lee480, help to spread the message.
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