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Old June 13th, 2012, 11:54 AM   #1681
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looks like our MRT will be China-made afterall.

Belilah Barangan Buatan China. Two pandas and probably more in the future will be coming.
Alah. Our 2nd png bridge, China made also what. Its not made in china that scared me. Its made by china that is scary


Why najib ask for panda?. Can't he ask for dragon instead.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 04:00 PM   #1682
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We cannot run away from china made product these days. We complain about it still we bought the iphone/ipad etc.. and soon we will be flying china made A320
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Old June 13th, 2012, 05:08 PM   #1683
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I do not have a problem with chinese made trains!Just as long as the specs are up to the international standards i have been on the Beijing subway system ,its as good as any other transit system elsewhere.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 05:28 PM   #1684
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Chinese-built trains can be reliable, as in Guangzhou, Shanghai and Beijing metro lines.

I think the primary concern for government is to look for a deal that does allow technology transfer to the Malaysian side.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 05:37 PM   #1685
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how about the new komuter train? made in china also right?
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Old June 14th, 2012, 02:17 AM   #1686
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To me, it is not whether the rolling stock is made by China or others that trouble me but rather the TENDER process is carried out FAIRLY and award based on the BEST offer for the project.

We do not want a puppet show for people and the award of the contract is not based on FAIR tender process and fishy all the way through!! No Integrity!!
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Old June 14th, 2012, 03:26 AM   #1687
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To me, it is not whether the rolling stock is made by China or others that trouble me but rather the TENDER process is carried out FAIRLY and award based on the BEST offer for the project.

We do not want a puppet show for people and the award of the contract is not based on FAIR tender process and fishy all the way through!! No Integrity!!
I concur
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Old June 14th, 2012, 09:30 AM   #1688
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Rumours now that the other bidders pulled out because of dissatisfaction. Some claim that CSR Zhuzou should not meet the pre-qualification round.

Read More >>> http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/busin...-response.html

MRT's RM1.6b tender gets disappointing response
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Old June 14th, 2012, 10:19 AM   #1689
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CSR Zhuzhou never produced a driverless train so far.

CNR going to produce driverless train for Hong Kong MTR.

I think this bid goes very wrong when Bombardier does not even submit bid for rolling stock. As Bombardier has very long experience in building trains, especially driverless ones.
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Old June 14th, 2012, 10:53 AM   #1690
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Rumours now that the other bidders pulled out because of dissatisfaction. Some claim that CSR Zhuzou should not meet the pre-qualification round.

Read More >>> http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/busin...-response.html

MRT's RM1.6b tender gets disappointing response
What else is new huh in Malaysia? Hahaha.. sure the european are scared to pay a dime under the table since their French counterparts always make headlines here.
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Old June 14th, 2012, 11:35 AM   #1691
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something is really wrong here... maybe some guys at Finance Ministry have full control...
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Old June 14th, 2012, 12:59 PM   #1692
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looks like our MRT will be China-made afterall.

Belilah Barangan Buatan China. Two pandas and probably more in the future will be coming.

totally make sense!
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Old June 14th, 2012, 04:33 PM   #1693
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Panda Power rules!
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Old June 15th, 2012, 06:04 AM   #1694
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If this really happens. What else to say...
"Welcome to China"
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Old June 19th, 2012, 01:36 PM   #1695
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Those pandas better be worth it !
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Old June 19th, 2012, 04:25 PM   #1696
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such a precious and cute animal. those who have never seen them live will never get it.
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Old June 19th, 2012, 04:48 PM   #1697
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he he, when i see panda i've always thought of those wwf donation drive booths and agents. sigh.
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Old June 19th, 2012, 04:55 PM   #1698
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Lacks of transparency...damn it, how come CSR Zhuzhou being soooo popular to win the tender......they even have no experience in building the whole MRT system just like Alstom, Siemens or Bombardier.. Info from KTM friends, their latest EMU wasn't good as what it look.....hurmmmm

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UPDATED @ 09:34:13 PM 17-06-2012
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Since the late 1980s, Malaysia has preferred direct negotiations in awarding public works and the construction of infrastructure projects over public tender. — file pic

KUALA LUMPUR, June 17 — International companies are shying away from Malaysia’s rail sector due to less-than-transparent decisions in the tender process, The Edge weekly has reported.

According to an article in the business and investment weekly’s latest edition, “intense lobbying, glitches in the tender process and political favouritism” are among some of the reasons why foreign firms are snubbing rail tenders, a move which could deprive the country of a high-quality rail system.

The Edge reported that the response to open tenders has been poor purportedly due to the unfair selection of large contracts, adding that government officials have acknowledged the problem but have defended it as a relatively new phenomenon.

“It is a learning process, but the government is committed to the open tender system,” an unnamed official from a government transport agency that oversees the country’s rail networks was quoted as saying.

However, the weekly reported that international investors are not convinced of this assurance, with a representative of a company in pursuit of engineering contracts in Malaysia saying: “Most tenders start off well. It is in the evaluation process where things get very murky and you are often left feeling that it is not a level playing field”.

Another foreign consultant pointed out: “Not attracting bids only raises more questions about the tender process”.

The weekly added that since the late 1980s, Malaysia has preferred direct negotiations in awarding “public works and the construction of infrastructure projects over public tender because the government was keen to speed up the development of the country’s infrastructure”.

“But the practice has long been criticised because the awards have often favoured politically well-connected business groups.

“Critics also gripe that the negotiated tender practice is littered with failed projects that have resulted in costly government bailouts,” it reported.

It added that with contracts valued at more than RM1 billion up for grabs in the coming months, the loss of international investors would prove detrimental.

“More than RM70 billion worth of rail projects have been slated for the next decade, including the prized RM50billion Klang Valley MRT project,” it pointed out.

“Industry executives have noted the government needs to quickly deal with the grievances faced by international companies to salvage the open tender system,” it added.

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Old June 20th, 2012, 02:37 AM   #1699
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first photo very niceee MRT. i wish for that.

CSR n CNR MRT doesnt look good.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 10:15 AM   #1700
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MRT Corp gets 7 bids for 2 tenders
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