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Old June 20th, 2012, 03:50 PM   #2521
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Old June 20th, 2012, 03:55 PM   #2522
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Overall attendance: 1,068,205
Average attendance per match: 44,509

Very, very, very good. Would be even one of the best WC attendances
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Old June 20th, 2012, 03:56 PM   #2523
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Are you serious? A very tight call went against you, so it must be a fix?
To be fair, I think Alex Riccio was merely pointing out that the linesman, who made the incorrect call for Milevsky's offside, had to patrol up and down the touchline and keep his eyes on two places at once.

Goal line officials, by contrast, don't move (hence "fixed") and only have to determine whether or not the ball crosses the line.

So Alex wasn't claiming that the decision was a "fix".
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Old June 20th, 2012, 04:00 PM   #2524
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Rooney proved to be needed, if he is in a good day, it will be a fair match. Italy we never know, Balotelli is the most unpredictable player. Great game!!

BTW all great games, just Germany x Greece looks like there will be no surprises. For me it will be:

Portugal x Spain
Germany x England or Italy
Italy clear favourites to beat England, IMO.

We will have to improve greatly on last night's performance if we want to go any further.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 04:02 PM   #2525
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lol those linesmen near the goals are completely useless
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When have they ever made a good, important decision?
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Old June 20th, 2012, 04:37 PM   #2526
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Collina admits that referees made mistake during England-Ukraine match

UEFA Head of Referees Pierluigi Collina has admitted that the team of referees headed by Hungarian Viktor Kassai made a mistake during the last group match of the Euro 2012 championship between Ukraine and England by not awarding the goal scored by Ukraine in the middle of the second half.

"The referee's assistant [behind the goal] was appearing in Euro 2012 for the first time – it's a trial introduced by UEFA. According to the statistics, they made their contributions to making correct decisions 16 times. Unfortunately, a wrong decision was made at the match between England and Ukraine. The goal was scored, the ball crossed the goal line by 50 centimeters, it's true. It was human error. It was the only mistake in a thousand matches," Collina said at a press conference in Warsaw on Wednesday.

He added that this mistake was the first in over three years of the experiment with additional referee assistants.

Collina refused to comment on the issue of introducing an electronic system to control the goal line, explaining that the UEFA Referees Committee is not in charge of it.

Collina also said that, in general, he was satisfied with the work of referees during Euro 2012.

"The twelve referees selected for Euro 2012 are among the best European referees. After 24 matches we are happy and satisfied with their performance," he said.

As reported, in the 63rd minute, when the score was 1-0 in favour of England, Ukraine's forward Artem Milevsky led his team mate Marko Devic to the shooting position and the latter skilfully passed the rival's defender and shot, but England's defender John Terry kicked the ball out, although it could be seen on the video recording that the ball crossed the goal line. Officiating referee Viktor Kassai decided not to award the goal.

As a result, England defeated Ukraine 1-0 and Ukraine were kicked out of the championship.

On July 2, the International Football Association Board (IFAB) will hold a meeting in Kyiv to sum up the results of trials of the electronic system to control the goal line. If IFAB decides to introduce the system, the electronic systems will be installed at stadiums next season.

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Old June 20th, 2012, 05:13 PM   #2527
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It doesn't matter if the ball went over the line or not, Milevsky was offside to begin with. If a goal had been granted it would have been unjustified and sure enough England fans/team would have complained about the offside not being called.

As it stands the offside wasn't called, but then neither was a goal given when the ball crossed the line, so it evens itself out.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 05:14 PM   #2528
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The goal was scored, the ball crossed the goal line by 50 centimeters
Millimetres perhaps, but certainly not centimetres. 50 centimetres is wider than two balls side to side.


He also makes no reference to the offside in build up.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 08:06 PM   #2529
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Overall attendance: 1,068,205
Average attendance per match: 44,509

Very, very, very good. Would be even one of the best WC attendances
Do you think it can surpass the 2010 World Cup (49,670)? 18 games played so far, 7 left, but only on the larger stadiums now.

Here's the list for best-attended single-sport tournaments as it stands right now:

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3,587,538 (68,991) - 1994 FIFA World Cup (USA)
3,359,439 (52,491) - 2006 FIFA World Cup (Germany)
3,178,156 (49,670) - 2010 FIFA World Cup (South Africa)
2,785,100 (43,517) - 1998 FIFA World Cup (France)
2,705,197 (42,269) - 2002 FIFA World Cup (Japan/Korea)
2,516,348 (48,391) - 1990 FIFA World Cup (Italy)
2,393,031 (46,020) - 1986 FIFA World Cup (Mexico)
2,263,223 (47,150) - 2007 Rugby World Cup (France, Scotland, Wales)
2,109,723 (40,572) - 1982 FIFA World Cup (Spain)
1,837,547 (38,282) - 2003 Rugby World Cup (Australia)
1,774,022 (46,685) - 1974 FIFA World Cup (West Germany)
1,546,151 (40,688) - 1978 FIFA World Cup (Argentina)
1,635,000 (51,094) - 1966 FIFA World Cup (England)
1,603,975 (50,124) - 1970 FIFA World Cup (Mexico)
1,477,294 (30,777) - 2011 Rugby World Cup (New Zealand)
1,276,137 (41,166) - UEFA Euro 1996 (England)
1,195,299 (22,987) - FIFA U-20 World Cup (Canada)
1,156,473 (37,306) - UEFA Euro 2004 (Portugal)
1,140,902 (36,803) - UEFA Euro 2008 (Austria/Switzerland)
1,125,120 (45,005) - 2011 CONCACAF Gold Cup (USA)
1,122,833 (36,220) - UEFA Euro 2000 (Belgium/Netherlands)
1,050,230 (40,393) - 2007 Copa América (Venezuela)
1,043,500 (47,432) - 1950 FIFA World Cup (Brazil)
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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:24 PM   #2530
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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:35 PM   #2531
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Old June 20th, 2012, 11:44 PM   #2532
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Kharkiv, bedankt! Kharkiv, thank you!

Let's not talk about football that much. Yup, Bert van Marwijk lost his touch, time to go. Thanks for everything, thanks for bringing us to the worldcup final, thanks for 2 almost perfect qualification rounds. No white handkerchiefs for you, not at all. Also a few players have to go, time for new blood, time for youngsters, no time for ego's anymore. But let's not talk about that, let's talk about organisation, about Kharkif, let's talk about beautifull people!

Doing the thing we did takes quit a lot of organisation. Thanks to the Supportersclub Oranje, the Dutch Police, the Kharkiv Police and all the Kharkiv authorities we had 3 perfectly organised marches to the stadium. Wonderfull! All the help we've got: it was so much, the people were very good informed about us. Also the people from Oranjecamping were very helpfull, thank you all so much!!

But most of our thanks goes to the Kharkiv people.. Wonderfull people! We have met so many very nice people in all those years, but we did not what to expect in Kharkiv. Well, we got a warm bath.. A warm bath filled with memories of helpfull, joyfull, loving, caring, understanding, amazing, beautifull and fantastic people. We are so happy we could bring another kind of joy into their lives, something they did not knew and hopefully something they will continue enjoying, the way they did the last few weeks. Thank you so much, Kharkiv people. Thank you all the people, especially the vollunteers, from Sanatorium Rocha, thank you all the people from restaurant Rioni, thank you all the people from the Uefa fanfest, thank you all the Karkiv people from Oranjecamping, thank you all the people from Kharkiv, for your many presents, for your enthousiasm, for loving us that much, for everything...

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Old June 22nd, 2012, 05:16 AM   #2533
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Here's the list for best-attended single-sport tournaments as it stands right now:
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2011 FIFA U-20 World Cup Colombia - 1,309,929 (25,191 per match)
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 06:50 AM   #2534
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Maybe we will have FIFA 2006 WC all over again:

Spain x France

France x Portugal
Germany x Italy

Would be interesting
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 07:24 AM   #2535
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 08:02 AM   #2536
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Amazing pictures. A shame Ukraine were robbed.
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 08:17 AM   #2537
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Amazing pictures. A shame Ukraine were robbed.
Ukraine was robbed?

Really? That's terrible news!

Robbed of what?

And by whom?
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 08:51 AM   #2538
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Ukraine was robbed?

Really? That's terrible news!

Robbed of what?

And by whom?

Robbed of a goal which should have been flagged offside .. I guess??
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 09:02 AM   #2539
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Robbed of a goal which should have been flagged offside .. I guess??
Oh, that.

So not robbed at all, then!
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 11:29 AM   #2540
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Referee Kassai admitted his error!

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The referee from Hungary Viktor Kassai admitted that he and his assistants committed a mistake, not counting a goal shot by the Ukrainian footballer Marko Devic in the match Ukraine - England.

"After the game we watched the reruns and immediately realized our mistake. We have analyzed the situation, but in accordance with the UEFA requirements, a judge could not comment on his own solutions publicly. We have a very thankless job, as we can take 199 right decisions, but one mistake can be fatal," Kassai said.

The referee noted that it is "difficult to bear this, as I know how many people believed in us". "But you can not change what has already happened. We have to return home and to admit that we have finished the European Championship not the way we planned to because of our big mistake.

Nevertheless, I am sure that all my assistants will make a lesson from this failure and the next season we will be able to prove we still remain at the forefront of the world refereeing," Kassai said.

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