Do you support the division of Pakistan into smaller Provinces?

[khalid-don]

Originally Posted by Intoxication

The articles are not biased flawed or wrong. Thats what you think.

Urdu speakers/Muhajirs weren't the only ones who left their land and wealth behind to move to Pakistan and suffered the atrocities of partition, majority of the migrants were Punjabis.

The economic prosperity of Karachi isn't just owed to the Muhajirs, after partition, many other ethnic groups also migrated to Karachi, its just that Muhajirs tended to concentrate in Karachi more. Where as, say the Punjabis, spread out more evenly across Punjab, Karachi and other areas.

And its funny how you just sneakingly target one province (i'm guessing Punjab), for the East Pakistan problem, when its was not just the Punjabi elite but also the elite from 3 other ethnic groups (Muhajirs, Sindhis and Pashtuns) who didn't wanna share power with the Bengalis. Those opposed to sharing power fairly with the Bengalis were those in the bureaucracy of Pakistan (composed primarily of Muhajirs and Punjabis), those in the Army (composed of Punjabis and Pashtuns), Ayub Khan (a Pashtun) and Bhutto (a Sindhi) amongst others. Though I do agree that Jinnahpur was a conspiracy, but thats all part of politics, just like Zia helping the MQM to form and nurturing Nawaz Sharif in order to weaken the PPP, or just as how the PPP took away local government control from Karachi and imposed old British era laws there, all politics in order to weaken your rivals. Dirty politics.

++1

[deltaone]

Originally Posted by Intoxication

The articles are not biased flawed or wrong. Thats what you think.

Urdu speakers/Muhajirs weren't the only ones who left their land and wealth behind to move to Pakistan and suffered the atrocities of partition, majority of the migrants were Punjabis.

The economic prosperity of Karachi isn't just owed to the Muhajirs, after partition, many other ethnic groups also migrated to Karachi, its just that Muhajirs tended to concentrate in Karachi more. Where as, say the Punjabis, spread out more evenly across Punjab, Karachi and other areas.

And its funny how you just sneakingly target one province (i'm guessing Punjab), for the East Pakistan problem, when its was not just the Punjabi elite but also the elite from 3 other ethnic groups (Muhajirs, Sindhis and Pashtuns) who didn't wanna share power with the Bengalis. Those opposed to sharing power fairly with the Bengalis were those in the bureaucracy of Pakistan (composed primarily of Muhajirs and Punjabis), those in the Army (composed of Punjabis and Pashtuns), Ayub Khan (a Pashtun) and Bhutto (a Sindhi) amongst others. Though I do agree that Jinnahpur was a conspiracy, but thats all part of politics, just like Zia helping the MQM to form and nurturing Nawaz Sharif in order to weaken the PPP, or just as how the PPP took away local government control from Karachi and imposed old British era laws there, all politics in order to weaken your rivals. Dirty politics.

The whole point was to emphasize on our contribution to Pakistan's economy and Karachi's prosperity. We were no bikharis who came in to Pakistan seeking economic benefits or to live on charity as being proclaimed by the article. Calling us as oppurtunists who came in for benefits is an insult. Never said Karachi's prosperity is entirely owed to us.

Forget East Pakistan. Even you agree Jinnahpur was a conspiracy against us. Not dirty politics but ethnic cleansing. Do you know how this was used as basis for ethnic cleansing? army ops, etc. Prior to this time there were severe unofficial or perhaps official restrictions on Muhajirs. They were not offered governmental jobs, placements, army you just mentioned was purely dominated with Punjabi and some Pashtuns. Highly educated Muhajirs were deprived of jobs. Quota based system ensured others getting priority over us in universities and civil service jobs. I've heard several stories of injustice during those days within my family such as being deprived of promotions or jobs on basis of ethnicity etc.

Regardless, despite all that we're still working on making Mr. Jinnah's dream a success. We pay taxes and do our part for the well being of this nation it's a shame for us to be still labelled as 'Muhajirs' even after 60+ years given all this.

[Intoxication]

Originally Posted by deltaone

The whole point was to emphasize on our contribution to Pakistan's economy and Karachi's prosperity. We were no bikharis who came in to Pakistan seeking economic benefits or to live on charity as being proclaimed by the article. Calling us as oppurtunists who came in for benefits is an insult. Never said Karachi's prosperity is entirely owed to us.

The articles don't state that Muhajirs were bikharis, thats what you're making it out to be. They state that the majority of Muhajirs were from the middle class, middle class are not bikharis are they? It is just talking about how the Pakistan Movement actually began in the North Indian province of Uttar Pradesh (previously known as the United Provinces of Agra and Oudh) as a response to the declining shares of jobs for Muslims in that state. Later on it transformed into an outright demand for a separate Muslim state. But the origins were as stated in the articles. Just read any unbiased book on partition, preferably from a non-Pakistani source and you will find the same reasons backed up by references and data.

Originally Posted by deltaone

Forget East Pakistan. Even you agree Jinnahpur was a conspiracy against us. Not dirty politics but ethnic cleansing. Do you know how this was used as basis for ethnic cleansing? army ops, etc.

Forget East Pakistan? because you were proved wrong? And Jinnahpur and any other such acts against any ethnic group I am totally against.

Originally Posted by deltaone

Prior to this time there were severe unofficial or perhaps official restrictions on Muhajirs. They were not offered governmental jobs, placements, army you just mentioned was purely dominated with Punjabi and some Pashtuns.

You so conveniently pick up on my point that the Army was and is dominated by Punjabis and Pashtuns, but you miss out the point where I said that the bureaucracy was and is dominated by Muhajirs and Punjabis. Plus Muhajirs might not be highly represented in the lower ranks of the military, but in the higher ranks of the Military, Muhajirs dominate along with the Punjabis and Pashtuns as one of the articles states. The bureaucratic elite of Pakistan is as much to blame for the problems in Pakistan, as the military elite, if not more.

Read these 3 articles to understand the origins of the problems in Pakistan:

Pakistan: The Roots of Failure - An Introduction: http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/014063.php

Pakistan: The Roots of Failure - Part 1: Authoritarianism & Islamization

1. Summary

2. The 1947 Partition of British India and Migration into Pakistan

3. The Mohajir Elite and Pakistan's Power Structure

4. The Punjabi Elite and Pakistan's Power Structure

5. The Roots of Authoritarianism in Pakistan and Democracy in India

6. The Roots of Islamization of Pakistan and Secularism in India

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/014066.php

Pakistan: The Roots of Failure - Part 2: The Languages of Three Neighbors http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/014085.php

Originally Posted by deltaone

Highly educated Muhajirs were deprived of jobs. Quota based system ensured others getting priority over us in universities and civil service jobs. I've heard several stories of injustice during those days within my family such as being deprived of promotions or jobs on basis of ethnicity etc.

The quota system I know many Muhajirs are against because it deprived them of jobs and thats why many Muahjirs hate Bhutto for that but the Quota system in Pakistan was initiated originally as a affirmative action policy to help the deprived communities of Pakistan (i.e those not from an Punjabi or Urdu speaking/Muhajir background):

Affirmative action policies pursued by successive governments in Pakistan were the product of a perceived need to improve the representation of backward regions in services. While these policies fell short of fulfilling the latter’s aspirations, especially Bengalis and Sindhis, they generally frustrated the Urdu-speaking migrants from India (mohajirs) who had traditionally enjoyed a privileged status in the bureaucracy. The nation is divided on this issue, with the tribal area, Azad Kashmir, Northern Areas, Sindhis and the Baluch committed to preservation of the quota system, and the Punjab and mohajirs opposed to it.

http://www.ices.lk/publications/esr/...Esr-Waseem.PDF

And as stated in the last article and pointed out by khalid:

"What Muhajir leaders fail to understand is that today we live in times where governments are shrinking and employment for the Muhajir youth is in the private sector. That is where no quota works, which the MQM resents, and merit matters. "

Originally Posted by deltaone

Regardless, despite all that we're still working on making Mr. Jinnah's dream a success. We pay taxes and do our part for the well being of this nation it's a shame for us to be still labelled as 'Muhajirs' even after 60+ years given all this.

The term Muhajirs might have started as discriminatory term but it no longer implies that Muhajirs are supposedly foreign or that they don't belong here and are not equal Pakistanis as everyone else. The term Muhajir is used just as the term Punjabi, Sindhi or Balochi is used. Though the more politically correct term is Urdu-speaking if you want. And I have met many Urdu speakers/Muhajirs, some get offended over the word "Muhajir" and take it as an insult, such as you, and others don't.

[yasirniazkhan]

I don't understand why only nahajirs or urdu speakers of karachi have this problem? Both of my parents' fanilies migrated from india to punjab, one of thepum urdu speakers from delhi area, and yet they integrated into punjab. All immigrants coming to all parts of Pakistan integrated and now have no problems.

Only the migrants to karachi have problems and create problems, giving bad name to other migrants. They get surprised when i tell that i have a migrant background but i am not a migrant anymore. We still speak Urdu at home, but we have learnt punjabi and can speak it very good.

[siamu maharaj]

Originally Posted by yasirniazkhan

I don't understand why only nahajirs or urdu speakers of karachi have this problem? Both of my parents' fanilies migrated from india to punjab, one of thepum urdu speakers from delhi area, and yet they integrated into punjab. All immigrants coming to all parts of Pakistan integrated and now have no problems.

Only the migrants to karachi have problems and create problems, giving bad name to other migrants. They get surprised when i tell that i have a migrant background but i am not a migrant anymore. We still speak Urdu at home, but we have learnt punjabi and can speak it very good.

Because of numbers...

[fadi rulzzzz]

Originally Posted by siamu maharaj

Because of numbers...

+ 1

[srivatsayb]

Originally Posted by siamu maharaj

Muhajirs who wanted separation was because they were 1) sidelined and 2) outright killed in huge numbers. MQM was a REACTION to it. And just so you know, I hate MQM. We lost Bangladesh due to such politics, Balochis are hardly part of Pakistan and Muhajirs were treated really bad and then people bitch about MQM. Maybe a better idea would've been to not kill Muhajirs or totally sideline them. If not for MQM, Muhajirs would've been an extinct species and Karachi would've been worse than Faisalabad (I am from Faisalabad before any Punjabi gets offended). And just so I make it clear once again, I hate MQM. But in Karachi that's the only possible choice.

Also, I never understood how Punjabis and Pathans are always full of hatred for Karachi (just venture into Lahore-related threads to see it) and Muhajirs and then suddenly they bitch about MQM and how they love Karachi. At least be consistent!

I can talk a lot on it, but anyway, it won't change anything.

But one thing I'll tell you, and because it makes me want to punch anyone who says it. Why do we use the word Muhajir? And how it makes us a lesser Pakistani and we should go back to India.

1) Muhajirs left EVERYTHING to move, so if anything they are the MOST loyal ones. Most Punjabis just went from Indian to Paki Punjab. We didn't even move to a similar culture. So how aer we lesser Pakis? And anyway, Mr. Choudhry sahib in another thread said he wants punjabs to merge so that was another big WTF!

2) Muhajir is a word that was used and got stuck. Maybe engage your brain once in a while and learn who languages and cultures work. There are two things common in this group of people - language and the fact they migrated. Surprisingly people from different part of Urdu-speaking India have many similarities and are hence bunched together. And FYI, they call themselves URDU-SPEAKER and NOT Muhajir. Seriously, you hear this term wayyyy more from Punjabis who bitch about it than from Muhajirs themselves. Also, since Biharis are inferior ( ) we tend to not call them Urdu-Speakers. Anyway the point was that within themselves you'd always refer to where you're from (UP, Bihar, Hyderabad). Bitching about the word "muhajir" is the lowest form of bitching.

(I am not entering the current debate) just a question, do Urdu speakers in pakistan associate based upon whether they were from UP or bihar? where were most of them from?

for eg, do you specifically know where your grandfather was from?

[siamu maharaj]

Originally Posted by srivatsayb

(I am not entering the current debate) just a question, do Urdu speakers in pakistan associate based upon whether they were from UP or bihar? where were most of them from?

for eg, do you specifically know where your grandfather was from?

Yes, they pretty much always do. And usually Biharis (since you mentioned) are very easy to tell. I am guessing though that the next generations won't know, probably no more than maybe 33%. Reason being that they now really won't have anything in common with the cultures of those areas.

[siamu maharaj]

BTW, since you specifically asked about my granddad, my family (on both sides) was odd in that we never ever talked about race and stuff. I think I didn't know for at least 15 years I was a Muhajir (I word never uttered in my house by my parents). I only figured out my granddad was from Buland Shehr because I was wondering why he and my uncle (his son) went to India of all the places. I didn't know until a few years ago that my dad was born there too, only because I looked at his passport. But this is a rare case.

[srivatsayb]

Originally Posted by siamu maharaj

BTW, since you specifically asked about my granddad, my family (on both sides) was odd in that we never ever talked about race and stuff. I think I didn't know for at least 15 years I was a Muhajir (I word never uttered in my house by my parents). I only figured out my granddad was from Buland Shehr because I was wondering why he and my uncle (his son) went to India of all the places. I didn't know until a few years ago that my dad was born there too, only because I looked at his passport. But this is a rare case.

always nice to hear the real deal..As you said, it will fade with the next generations...

In fact i have been to Bulandshar even though I am from the south of India....Someday if they ease the visa restrictions, it would be much easier to travel between the 2 countries...

The first time i heard the word Muhajir was when i saw the movie "Sarfarosh"..later over the years i keep reading about the MQM and the ANP's fights in karachi via newspapers...

[siamu maharaj]

Originally Posted by srivatsayb

always nice to hear the real deal..As you said, it will fade with the next generations...

In fact i have been to Bulandshar even though I am from the south of India....Someday if they ease the visa restrictions, it would be much easier to travel between the 2 countries...

The first time i heard the word Muhajir was when i saw the movie "Sarfarosh"..later over the years i keep reading about the MQM and the ANP's fights in karachi via newspapers...

Surprisingly it didn't get mentioned anywhere, but the visa restrctions have been laxed for cetain age groups. Visa on arrival for <12 and >60 but only at Wagah border. I will have to wait a few decades though. Also, some visa progress has been made for Pak-Indian couples who live in the UAE. I don't know if there's been some progress (of any kind) for people who don't fall into these groups.

[smfarazm..]

PTI


HYDERABAD: The Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf leader Makhdoom Javed Hashmi said at a press conference on Thursday.


“The present constitution has no room for creation of new provinces and the 18th Amendment has made it impossible for the centre to take any initiative,”

“If political leaders sincerely want to form new provinces, they will have to sit together for an amendment to the Constitution”, Hashmi carried on.


He said this in Hyderabad, Sindh province in a Press Conference.

[Intoxication]

VIEW: Decapitating Sindh?

It must be answered: why a mohajir province? Is it for ‘identity’ or socio-economic and political assertion?

Usually, Karachi is identified with red, the colour of the blood of those unsung and unknown peddlers, hawkers, drivers, plumbers and shopkeepers, who are felled every day by a most efficient killing machine that is running round the clock in the metropolis, under the eyes of the law enforcement agencies, and in absolute disregard of, if not connivance with, the political masters of the city and the province. But these days, the city’s new identity is black and red; the black of the graffiti covered walls and public spaces demanding a new mohajir province, and the red of those who have been killed and injured while protesting the division of the province.

Leaving aside the constitutional, historical and moral bases of the mohajir province, even for practical reasons, such a demand seems nothing more than a fantasy because Sindh is a province whose cities and towns host the interspersed communities of the Sindhi and Urdu-speaking people, among others, and whose metropolis stands practically compartmentalised into ethnically demarcated political arenas. Any idea of carving out a neat ethnic political entity out of this jumbled-up demography would be nothing but pushing the province into an unceasing civil war, and the country to the brink of an abyss. Yet, it must be answered: why a mohajir province? Is it for ‘identity’ or socio-economic and political assertion?

If it were ‘identity’, then it would negate the mohajirs’ ‘Pakistani identity’, which, at least, the elder Urdu-speaking generations have upheld on the strength of their sacrifices for an ‘Islamic’ Pakistan. Indeed, the majority of the Urdu-speaking electorate in Sindh voted for the Islamists, the exponents of Pakistani identity, until the Mohajir Qaumi Movement (MQM) emerged as a muscular, ethnic flag-bearer of the Urdu-speaking community. But the MQM’s strong-arm politics soon brought it into conflict with other ethnic groups, the Islamists, the mainstream Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) and the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) and even the state apparatus. Initially, the Sindhi nationalists perceived it as their ally against the Punjab-dominated centre, but later fell out with it.

However, after facing a massive crackdown by the state machinery and a rising counter-identity (violent) resistance from the Sindhi-speaking, Punjabi, Pathan and Baloch people, the MQM changed its ethnic tack and declared itself a ‘national’ party, Muttahida Qaumi Movement. However, the recent reassertion of mohajir identity has put the MQM’s ‘denunciation’ of ethnic politics to test. It is not ‘officially’ espousing the mohajir province. However, the areas under its influence are splashed with mohajir province slogans and some of its leaders are showing sympathy for the new province in their TV talk shows.

Indeed, a senior party leader and provincial minister called the division of Sindh a ‘fait accompli’, referring to the violence and loss of lives that took place in Karachi in the wake of an attack on the Love Sindh rally. It was organised by the Awami Tehrik of Ayaz Latif Palijo and attended by a host of MQM’s local rivals — the Awami National Party, the PML-N, Sindhi nationalists and Liyari Amn Committee. But the proponents of the new province must factor in the changing demographics and socio- psychological perspectives in Sindh. On the one hand, the old agro-based relations are disintegrating, releasing the surplus populace, which is taking to the cities, including Karachi. On the other, a sizeable number of the Sindhi-speaking middle-class — professionals, entrepreneurs, public servants, NGOs, rights activists, media, writers, academics and political forces — has also surfaced over the urban landscape of Sindh.

Therefore a quest for the ‘ownership’ of Sindh’s physical and political space is writ large upon the face of the emerging Sindhi-speaking Sindh. It is unhappy with the ‘folly’ of the earlier generations that lost urban Sindh to outsiders in the spirit of religious bonhomie and humanitarianism. And it is despondent with the PPP’s leadership for ‘betraying’ its electorate in Sindh. Therefore, many of the unemployed and socially oppressed youths are turning to a nationalistic narrative. It sees Sindh as receiving a raw deal from a state that has snatched its towns and cities, grabbed its natural resources, denied it economic and social dividends, and punished its people for their secular and pacifist beliefs, benefiting those who have taken up arms in the towns and metropolis.

Juxtaposed to this view is the one that emphasises the increasing sense of deprivation among the mohajirs, and hence, demands for a mohajir province. It is contended that the socio-political realities of urban Sindh, once dominated by the Urdu-speaking populace, are turning against them as now they have to compete with a host of other contenders to the city’s commercial, industrial, corporate and capital markets. They feel they are no more enjoying an economic, social and political leverage over the state despite the fact that Karachi contributes three-fourths of the revenues to the exchequer. There is no doubt that the Urdu-speaking youth is also facing a range of civic and economic problems, including housing, transport, and employment issues. But here lies the rub.

Karachi has a history of illegal immigrants — Afghans, Iranians, Bengalis, Biharis and Burmese and so on. But the current crisis began in Karachi during General Ziaul Haq’s martial law when ethnic riots occurred. The situation grew worse during General Musharraf’s rule (MQM was in government), when a huge swell of economic migrants and war-displaced populace belonging to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, south Punjab and northern Sindh swept Karachi’s labour markets and physical space. Obviously, the MQM, which then dominated the city government and much of the province, ignored this demographic shift in a city that needed cheap labour to run its developmental projects and commercial and industrial engines.

But with Musharraf’s exit and the MQM’s loss of city government, a tug-of-war ensued between the new and the old stakeholders to Karachi’s political space, causing perpetual violence, and now the demand for a province. But the proposed ‘decapitation’ of Sindh is fraught with disaster. With its industrial south, agrarian north, logistically significant east and resource-rich central-west, neither the province is divisible geographically, nor its people, who have lived here for centuries, can be rent asunder socio-politically. Yes, the country would surely slide into an irretrievable abyss.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...5-5-2012_pg3_3

[brightside.]

Funny. Everyone gets a province, but if Karachi and Hyderabad ask for their own, everyone starts expressing concern that Pakistan will break up. I don't understand why the people who formed this country (Indian immigrants) can't have their own province?

[Aashiq]

Hazaras, Seraikis and pretty much anyone in Pakistan can demand a province but heavens forbid if these big bad Muhajirs demand a province. Pathans can rename a province to suit their ethnicity but evil Muhajirs can't demand a province. These Sindhi feudals who rule Sindh thrive on the wealth of Karachi but this would not have even been remotely possible had these Muhajirs not have migrated to Karachi.
The people of Karachi slave their asses off so these Sindhi feudals can loot them of their hard earned money, in return the people of Karachi are spat on. These feudal fucks even took away the democratic LG system which changed Karachi and replaced it with the ancient Commissioner System. The development budget for Karachi is laughable, the money of the half ass budget that Karachi does get goes directly in the pockets of these rulers of Sindh.
The truth is Karachi is a goldmine for these feudal scumbags and making Karachi it's own province would deprive these feudals from stealing anymore money. It's funny how the two most developed cities of Sindh (Khi and Hyd) are heavily populated by Muhajirs yet they can't ask for a province. If Karachi and Hyderabad become a province then it is obvious Sindh would be no better then Balochistan in terms of development. Lets admit it apart from Khi and Hyd, Sindh is like Balochistan. This is why everyone gets their panties up in a bunch at the sound of a Muhajir province. It'll be a tragedy if Karachi remains a part of this feudal province, it has so much potential but Sindh will always hold it back. If we look at the major cities of the world like Moscow, London, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Sao Paulo they are are all special regions and self governed provinces.

[Intoxication]

Why we don’t need a Mohajir province



A dormant phenomenon has recently become active; the movement for a separate province for the Mohajir people. This movement was pioneered by the Mohajir Rabita Council - a political movement which started in Hyderabad, Sindh.

It should be noted that it is not just the Mohajir community that is asking for their rights; Pakistan’s history is loaded with separatist tendency right from 1947.

An excellent research paper is presented by Mohammed Waseem, titled “The Political Ethnicity and the State of Pakistan”. Mohammed Waseem talks about the separatist tendencies which grew in the Baloch, Sindhi, Mohajir, Bengali, and Pashtoon people of Pakistan. He also outlines their aims and highlights what was achieved.

It is against this background that the Mohajir province movement evolved. The Mohajir Rabita Council has been holding large rallies for the disintegration of Sindh and has also published a new map.

This map includes all the important districts of lower Sindh, including Karachi, Hyderabad, Thatta, and Mirpurkhas, in the Mohajir province that is being demanded. These districts are the economic engine of Sindh.

This brings me to the question, is the Mohajir province even feasible in the present conditions?

I don’t think so.

The centralist attitude by the rulers of Punjab is not a major problem any more. The country is not like the old federation it used to be, where the centre had all the power to decide what’s best for the country.

The 18th amendment has changed the political balance of power; the concurrent list has been abolished, National Finance Commission (NFC) awards have been announced, and the federation is compensating provinces through the federal divisible pool.

It is only the economy of a country which keeps a nation together – not religion, love or language. The Mohajirs won’t gain new taxes by carving out a land for themselves; the feudals will still control the assemblies and agricultural heartlands of Pakistan and the economy will remain in their hands.

The Pakistani middle-class and lower middle-class (99% of our population) doesn’t have a voice in this economic system. The need of the hour is to change the economy rather than the geography of Sindh.

The call for a separate province might lead to ethnic killings in interior Sindh – a region where a large Mohajir community is living happily with the Sindhi speaking community. I, myself, am a testimony to this good relationship. Most people have been living here after migrating from India in 1947. A second migration inside Pakistan would only lead to excessive bloodshed.

It should also be noted that the major representatives of the Mohajir community, the MQM, is against the idea of any territorial redistribution of Sindh.

A province can only be made if the provincial assembly of Sindh accepts a resolution on the creation of a new province. The MQM has never filed in a resolution, signalling it will never support territorial redistribution.

Moreover, a unanimous resolution was passed against the disintegration of Sindh. If the third largest political party of Pakistan and the largest party of Karachi, is speaking against the idea of a new province, it can easily be deduced that the idea has no political support.

I think the idea of provincialism might face the same end as Napoleon in George Orwell’s Animal Farm. Most great revolutions end the same ways as that one ended; Hitler spoke for the Deutsches Lebensraum (German’s living space) and conquered Poland, Hungary, Austria, France, and Denmark.

However, in the end, he was killing the common Berliners and ended up breaking Germany into West and East Germany. Lebensraum for Mohajirs will only end up discriminating among themselves.

Summing up, the call for a separate province is more of a divergence tactic rather than an answer to the real problems facing the Pakistani society.

After the 18th amendment, innovative ways should be sought to tilt the balance of power towards Sindh – this will help all the communities, including the Mohajir people.

http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/11...ajir-province/

[brightside.]

As usual, trash from the Express Tribune 'blogs'.

[Intoxication]

Its not trash, especially in comparison to the two ridiculous posts above it.

[brightside.]

I know the guy who wrote the 'blog'. He is from my university. He is a huge fan of Hassan Nisar, Asma Jahangir, Marvi Sirmed and Nadeem F. Paracha, and has hatred in his heart for Pakistani armed forces (despite graduating from an Air Force university lol) and he is a closet atheist. I don't have respect for people that don't own up to their real intentions. He is the kind of man who will sell his mother for a US visa. Express Tribune: the mouth-piece of the pseudo-intellectuals too afraid to actually say what they really want.

[siamu maharaj]

Persoanlly I am strictly against provinces based on ethnic lines, but if everyone gets one then why not Muhajirs? Because it'd become difficult to live off of Karachi's money and come here in hordes to kill us?