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Old June 22nd, 2012, 10:49 AM   #41
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its good to make business in this building and the rental will support the yayasan financial ... but there still empty lot for commercial...

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aku rasa dah dijual kepada mammoth empire and converted to Boutique hotel
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Old June 23rd, 2012, 08:28 AM   #42
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ade baca iklan dlm surat kabar pasal tender renovate yayasan selangor into hotel

so, how?. or yayasan selangor segaja renovate too pump up the price
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Old June 23rd, 2012, 08:34 AM   #43
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that one is jalan sultan not jalan bukit bintang
move those indon, vietnam n china girl to chow kit la
then why aquiring BB plaza?

that McD shoplot has to go 1st..its an eyesore
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Old June 23rd, 2012, 08:43 AM   #44
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then why aquiring BB plaza?

that McD shoplot has to go 1st..its an eyesore
the whole area on sungai wang plaza (bb plaza, imbi, shoplot along the monorails) side is due for renovation.... i guess owners just wait this some white knight buy them out at ludicrous price
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Old June 26th, 2012, 08:40 AM   #45
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BB Plaza to be demolished for MRT, says UDA today
The Malaysian Insider | By Clara Chooi | June 26, 2012
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/m...-mrt-says-uda/

KUALA LUMPUR, June 26 — Bukit Bintang Plaza (BBP), an iconic 1970s-built mall in the heart of the city’s busiest shopping district, will be demolished to make way for construction on the Klang Valley MRT rail line, mall owner UDA Holdings Bhd said today.

The Finance Ministry-owned firm added that the mall’s 167 tenants, 60 per cent of whom are Bumiputeras, would have to clear out of the building by year-end to facilitate preparatory work on the country’s first mass rapid transit system.

But the announcement, made today by UDA Holdings senior vice-president Syed Ahmad Nazri Syed Kamaruzaman, contradicts MRT Corporation’s last statement on the debacle.

A representative of the MRT project owner had last told The Malaysian Insider that BBP’s tenants could stay put, despite plans to integrate the rail line’s largest station with the mall.

“That is the confusion there. We, in all our meetings, it was made clear to us that they (BBP tenants) would have to clear out because the plaza would be demolished.

“We were shocked when we were told this would have to be done... that UDA would have to surrender such an icon,” Syed Ahmad Nazri (picture) told a press conference today after a dialogue with BBP’s tenants.

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Old June 26th, 2012, 08:48 AM   #46
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sure kecoh2 lepas ni.....instead of BB Plaza, kenapa tak robohkan diother side...KFC/McDonals....
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expected to be demolished early next year.

http://www.theedgeproperty.com/news-...-bb-plaza.html
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Old June 26th, 2012, 11:56 AM   #48
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It's final: Bukit Bintang Plaza to be demolished next year for MRT project
The Star | Updated: Tuesday June 26, 2012 MYT 3:23:47 PM
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KUALA LUMPUR: The iconic Bukit Bintang Plaza located in the heart of Kuala Lumpur and built more than 30 years ago will be demolished to make way for the Klang Valley Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) project, mall owner UDA Holdings confirmed Tuesday.

UDA Holdings senior vice-president Syed Ahmad Nazri Syed Kamaruzaman said tenants located outside the front portion of the mall have already been informed to vacate by the end of this month while the rest of the tenants would have to vacate the mall by end of this year.

He said this during a press conference, after having a dialogue with the tenants on the issue.

Meanwhile, according to a Bernama report, MRT Corp has given the mall operator until year-end to vacate the building.

"Eviction notice will be issued to the tenants to move out," UDA Holdings managing director Ahmad Abu Bakar said.

He said UDA would await a decision from the Finance Ministry on the application by Tradewinds (M) Bhd to participate in the Bukit Bintang Plaza building reconstruction.

Ahmad said UDA has received the formal application from Tradewinds and other companies also keen to part take in the project.


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Old June 26th, 2012, 12:56 PM   #49
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sure kecoh2 lepas ni.....instead of BB Plaza, kenapa tak robohkan diother side...KFC/McDonals....
Ya betul should robot all 4 storey shoplot .. Such an bug eye soar at bukit bintang!!
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Old June 26th, 2012, 03:35 PM   #50
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After Jalan Sultan saga... now is BB Plaza's turn.


BB Plaza tenants want UDA out instead
The Malaysian Insider | By Clara Chooi June 26, 2012
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BBP trader Hassan Saad leads a group of some 150 traders in the newly-formed Bukit Bintang Plaza Traders’ Association (BBPTA). — Picture by Choo Choy May

KUALA LUMPUR, June 26 — Bukit Bintang Plaza (BBP) tenants are now lobbying for a change in building ownership, claiming today that UDA Holdings Bhd had laid down arms too quickly in discussions with MRT Corporation over construction plans for the upcoming My Rapid Transit (MRT) project.

The tenants accused government-owned UDA Holdings of “lying” when it reportedly claimed it did not want to redevelop BBP for fear of having to raise rental rates.

“It’s a lie to say we cannot afford higher rental. We have been contributing RM25 million annually to UDA’s coffers... it is not cheap. We have always been paying market rates,” trader Hassan Saad told a press conference earlier this morning.

Encouraged by the roomful of fellow traders who cheered him on, Hassan even lamented about the poor conditions at BBP, which he said was a clear indication that the welfare of traders was not a priority to UDA Holdings.

“If you go to the toilets, you pay 30 sen but while you ‘buang air sini’ (urinate here), water drips on you from above,” he said.

Later in the afternoon, the traders emerged fuming after their maiden dialogue session with UDA Holdings, alleging that the firm’s representatives had as good as surrendered their fates to MRT Corp without putting up a fight.

Hassan, who leads a group of some 150 traders in the newly-formed Bukit Bintang Plaza Traders’ Association (BBPTA), told reporters after the meeting that UDA had clearly “washed their hands” of the matter.

“They’ve left it up to MRT Corp, they repeatedly said that this is MRT’s issue but we want UDA to look out for us,” he complained.

Hassan was flanked by a large group of angry tenants, representing the 167 from BBP, 60 per cent of whom are Bumiputeras.

“We cannot accept their explanation,” he continued.

They’ve left it up to MRT Corp, they repeatedly said that this is MRT’s issue but we want UDA to look out for us. — Hassan Saad
During the meeting, it is believed that UDA Holdings had clarified to the traders that by year-end, they would have to clear out of the nearly four-decade-old BBP, which has grown into something of an icon in the tourist haven of Bukit Bintang.

But the future of their businesses would still hang in balance as neither MRT Corp nor UDA Holdings intend to redevelop the 1970s-built mall.

The Malaysian Insider understands that the firms, both owned by the Finance Ministry, have their KPIs to meet and are intent on keeping their purse strings tied.

At a press conference today, UDA Holdings group managing director Ahmad Abu Bakar said while there are plans to redevelop BBP, UDA was presently still trying to clean up its balance sheets.

There is also the possibility that the nearly RM500 million building may be sold off to Tan Sri Syed Mokhtar Al-Bukhary’s Tradewinds Corporation Bhd (TCB), but this would leave the traders again in a lurch as it is not immediately certain if they would be included in the tycoon’s future plans for the prime property.

“We want UDA to discuss with the ministry and the MRT and come up with the best resolution to this issue.... because at this point, this arrangement is the best for MRT but not for us,” Hassan said.

He also appealed to MRT Corp to postpone its plan to kick-off “pre-works” on the sidewalk outside BBP’s main entrance, claiming this could slash the businesses of the mall’s tenants by at least half.

BBP’s tenants are expected to submit a memorandum to Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak tomorrow.
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Old June 26th, 2012, 05:00 PM   #51
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UDA desperately need instant cash....probably they need funds for Pudu Jail project.....
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Old June 26th, 2012, 06:47 PM   #52
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Move lah those traders into.pudu jail.. got cell what..convert that into shop..

Those ayam & jln.sultan also can move there..prison theme mall gonna be a bomb..everyone would want to go there!

As to please everyone..the name shall be change into pudu jail sentral
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Old June 26th, 2012, 07:14 PM   #53
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Tradewinds sedia bantu bangun semula BB Plaza
Oleh Che Wan Badrul Alias 2012/06/25
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BANGUNAN BB Plaza di Jalan Bukit Bintang yang berusia
lebih 40 tahun terbabit dalam pembinaan stesen bawah tanah MRT.


Syarikat syor usaha sama jadikan aset UDA gerbang utama MRT

TRADEWINDS Corporation Bhd bercadang mengadakan usaha sama dengan UDA Holdings Bhd, pemilik Bukit Bintang Plaza (BB Plaza) bagi membangunkan semula kompleks beli-belah berusia lebih 40 tahun itu.

Sumber berkata, syarikat hartanah dan perhotelan milik tokoh perniagaan Tan Sri Syed Mokhtar Al-Bukhary itu sudah mengemukakan cadangan penubuhan syarikat tujuan khas (SPV).

Jelasnya, ia akan bertanggungjawab membangunkan semula BB Plaza sebagai gerbang utama MY Rapid Transit (MRT) ke Bukit Bintang yang dijangka siap menjelang 2017.

Dari segi peratusan pemilikan ekuiti SPV berkenaan, ia adalah perkongsian pegangan 50-50 antara Tradewinds dan UDA Holdings, kata sumber berkenaan.

“Tradewinds Corporation memang mengemukakan cadangan kepada UDA Holdings, namun ia bukan cadangan untuk membeli pusat beli-belah itu seperti dilaporkan media sebelum ini.

“Kumpulan itu berhasrat mengadakan usaha sama dengan UDA Holdings menerusi SPV bagi membangunkan semula BB Plaza, justeru memastikan ia dibuat selaras dengan pembangunan perkhidmatan MRT,” katanya ketika dihubungi Berita Harian di Kuala Lumpur, kelmarin.

Namun, katanya, Lembaga Pengarah UDA Holdings baru-baru ini menolak cadangan dikemukakan Tradewinds Corporation itu. Lembaga Pengarah UDA Holdings berpendapat syarikat itu tidak mendapat keuntungan sewajarnya daripada usaha sama membangunkan semula BB Plaza.

“Sehingga kini tidak dapat dipastikan Tradewinds Corporation akan menghantar cadangan baru kepada UDA Holdings,” katanya.

Media sebelum ini melaporkan, UDA Holdings masih menunggu arahan Kementerian Kewangan sebagai pemegang sahamnya berhubung status bangunan BB Plaza sama ada kekal, diroboh atau diambil alih oleh mana-mana pihak.

Ia berikutan keputusan Mass Rapid Transit Corporation Sdn Bhd (MRT Corp) yang berhasrat membina stesen MRT yang disepadukan dengan BB Plaza di ruang bawah kompleks terbabit.

Pembinaan stesen bawah tanah MRT itu sekali gus menyebabkan sebahagian ruang hadapan dan pintu masuk utama ke Kompleks BB Plaza serta tempat letak kereta bawah tanah ditutup bagi memulakan pembinaan stesen MRT itu.

MRT Corp dalam kenyataannya berkata, rancangan menyepadukan stesen itu dengan BB Plaza akan memastikan projek itu tidak membabitkan hartanah persendirian.

Katanya, ia juga menyediakan peluang keemasan menonjolkan semula kompleks beli-belah tertua di kawasan ‘segi tiga emas Kuala Lumpur’ itu dengan kemudahan sambungan terus kepada sistem pengangkutan awam utama yang akan dibangunkan berkenaan.
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Move lah those traders into.pudu jail.. got cell what..convert that into shop..

Those ayam & jln.sultan also can move there..prison theme mall gonna be a bomb..everyone would want to go there!

As to please everyone..the name shall be change into pudu jail sentral
haha...

Pudu Jail Shopping Centre will be a mega prison mall with fresh ayams for every male human species.

Btw I read UDA wants to develop Pudu Jail ala-Elements Hong Kong wor... wah this mall banyak luxury brands wan


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What?? (i was expecting a Pavilion-kinda mall plus some towers up there)

If they are merely going to build a medan selera there, please don't mess around with BB Plaza.
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Old June 26th, 2012, 08:13 PM   #55
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UDA awaits MOF decision on application
Published: 2012/06/26
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UDA Holdings Bhd is still awaiting the decision from the Finance Ministry on the application by Tradewinds Corporation Bhd to participate in the Bukit Bintang Plaza shopping complex reconstruction.

Managing director Ahmad Abu Bakar said UDA Holdings has received the formal application from Tradewinds and other companies also keen to part take in the project.

The shopping complex, the symbol of Bumiputera business centre in the city's golden triangle area, is expected to be demolished early next year.

"MRT Corp has given us time until year-end to vacate the building. Eviction notice will be issued to the tenants to move out," he told reporters after a dialogue with the tenants today.

The dialogue, attended by about 200 traders doing business at the
three-decade-old building, discussed the traders' fate after the complexg was demolished.

Last Tuesday, about 50 traders staged a protest outside the complex, claiming they were sidelined in the tripartite negotiations between the Finance Ministry, MRT Corp and UDA Holdings on the shopping complex's future.

Meanwhile, the tenants' representative, Hassan Saad, said they hoped UDA Holdings would defend their interests at the plaza.

"We want an assurance for the future of our business after the complex was demolished.

"We also hope after the complex has been redeveloped, we, as the pioneer tenants, will be given priority to occupy the new premises," he added. -- BERNAMA
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Perhaps I'm the only one on here that would wish for BB Plaza and Sungei Wang to stay as is. What am I to do without MPH book store?
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Its a golden opportunity to totally bring that part of bukit bintang back to life!BUT it must also include yayasan selangor building and some of the shoplots fronting metrojaya.With its entire frontage facing jalan bukit bintang.The upmost priority in planning this new building is parking and traffic management.Whats with uncle syed and tradewinds all they want to sapu ah ask them to settle their $ 32 billion hutang first then talk businesslah.
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Capital malls/ sungei wang or ytl should acquire BB plaza and build a brand new mall. Get a world class architect to design a world class mall.
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More Confusing and Conflicting Statements Coming From MRT Corp. Even UDA is confused

Wednesday June 27, 2012
BB Plaza to make way for MRT station

KUALA LUMPUR: The 38-year-old Bukit Bintang Plaza (BB Plaza) will need to make way for the construction of a My Rapid Transit (MRT) station, contradicting earlier reports that only the front of the property and basement will be needed for development purposes.

UDA Holdings Bhd officials, who earlier met with BB Plaza’s tenants to clear up the confusion on the status of the property, said they had been asked to vacate the premises by MRT Corp by the end of the year in a meeting two weeks ago.

UDA, a wholly-owned entity under the ministry, owns BB Plaza as well as several other commercial properties in central Kuala Lumpur, Ipoh and Johor Baru.

UDA group managing director Ahmad Abu Bakar said at a media briefing that Tradewinds Corp Bhd, a property and hotel conglomerate majority-owned by media-shy tycoon Tan Sri Syed Mokhtar Al-Bukhary, had expressed its interest to acquire the property.
Landmark: The iconic 38-year-old BB Plaza, located in the heart of Kuala Lumpur, will be demolished to make way for the MRT project.

“We discussed it at the board and have related the offer back to the ministry, so we’ll wait for the decision,” he said, adding that there were parties who were interested to either jointly develop or acquire the property.

According to recent reports, Tradewinds Corp had approached UDA to redevelop BB Plaza under a 50:50 joint venture which the latter’s board had declined because the returns were not lucrative enough.

MRT Corp, the body tasked with overseeing the development of the MRT line, have previously said it has no plans to acquire BB Plaza, valued at an estimated RM500mil.

Ahmad said UDA had no plans to redevelop the property on its own due to the lack of funds. “There’s been talk of redevelopment but not in the near term as we don’t have the funds because we’re trying to clean up our balance sheet,” he clarified.

UDA’s senior vice-president of property management Syed Ahmad Nazri Syed Kamaruzaman said the company was just as surprised as the tenants that the property was going to be demolished.

“We had a meeting with the tenants because of the confusion over the status of the property especially after reports came out saying that BB Plaza will not be demolished. In all our meetings with the ministry, the understanding is that the property will be demolished,” he said.

Syed Ahmad Nazri said a letter from MRT Corp only requested UDA to vacate the front of the property while Ahmad pointed out that this has caused a lot of confusion.

“Initially MRT Corp told us that they just need the front portion and that the station will be underground.

“They said there was no need to demolish the whole building. Later on when we discussed with them, they said the whole building will have to be brought down, so this is the confusion of the last one month or so,” he said.

Meanwhile, Syed Ahmad Nazri said compensation for the tenants was discussed but it was the stance of the company that compensation should come from MRT Corp.

“In fact we’ve passed the claims of several of the tenants to MRT Corp and they have come back to us asking for more information. Even though there’s nothing formal, we’re working towards it,” he said.
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for long term period UDA's shud stays wit BB PLAZA...golden triangle area mah...banyak ong punya tempat.....
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